Microsoft licenses Linux to Dell
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I *love* it, the irony...the irony. This is promising, I think Microsoft should build thier own distro of linux and become the leading distribution in the world. Anything to see those slash dotters and Stallmans of the world run around like headless chickens crying "the sky is falling" would be worth it.
"110%" - it's the new 70%
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David Wulff wrote:
isn't this good news?
I have no opinion of good or bad in this case, but it still seems odd reading that Microsoft is essentially selling Linux licenses. No?
"I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it." - Thomas Jefferson
Mike Mullikin wrote:
odd reading that Microsoft is essentially selling Linux licenses.
why would they turn down selling any Licenses? :-D They are a profit shop, idealy they would sell anything they can get away with. That's business.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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I made the mistake of saying I would eat my hat when Apple went Intel.... X| leather is tough, all I could do was gnaw a bit.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
odd reading that Microsoft is essentially selling Linux licenses.
why would they turn down selling any Licenses? :-D They are a profit shop, idealy they would sell anything they can get away with. That's business.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
so it is you ... why did you change ur name if i may ask? or did that conversation happen already and i missed it?
"there is no spoon" {me}
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
odd reading that Microsoft is essentially selling Linux licenses.
why would they turn down selling any Licenses? :-D They are a profit shop, idealy they would sell anything they can get away with. That's business.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
El Corazon wrote:
They are a profit shop, idealy they would sell anything they can get away with. That's business.
Maybe, but as a rule Toyota dealers don't sell new Hondas. ;)
"I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it." - Thomas Jefferson
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...a cold day[^]
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El Corazon wrote:
They are a profit shop, idealy they would sell anything they can get away with. That's business.
Maybe, but as a rule Toyota dealers don't sell new Hondas. ;)
"I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it." - Thomas Jefferson
Mike Mullikin wrote:
Maybe, but as a rule Toyota dealers don't sell new Hondas.
Perhaps if you look at it that way... but Mercury cars are made from Fords, Fords use entire engines and sometimes drive-trains from imports. So although your example is true, the subject matter holds similar concepts with car-makers relabling other manufacturers products, or using large chunks of licensed hardware to be included in other cars. Generally you don't know until there is a recall. You find a recall on energizer batteries also recalls a half-dozen generics because Energizer was making the batteries that were relabled and sold under other brands. This is very common in non-software markets, very common indeed. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
Maybe, but as a rule Toyota dealers don't sell new Hondas.
Perhaps if you look at it that way... but Mercury cars are made from Fords, Fords use entire engines and sometimes drive-trains from imports. So although your example is true, the subject matter holds similar concepts with car-makers relabling other manufacturers products, or using large chunks of licensed hardware to be included in other cars. Generally you don't know until there is a recall. You find a recall on energizer batteries also recalls a half-dozen generics because Energizer was making the batteries that were relabled and sold under other brands. This is very common in non-software markets, very common indeed. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
El Corazon wrote:
but Mercury cars are made from Fords, Fords use entire engines and sometimes drive-trains from imports.
But in these examples Ford either fully or partially owns the others. Remember it wasn't too long ago that Mr. Balmer was saying all manner of rude things about open-source in general and Linux in particular. Personally, I think Microsoft's fear of Google has made them re-evaluate their position.
"I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it." - Thomas Jefferson
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...a cold day[^]
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
Remember what they are monetising here, they are selling machines not operating systems, do they really care (outside of support I suppose) what people run on their machines?
Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch
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El Corazon wrote:
but Mercury cars are made from Fords, Fords use entire engines and sometimes drive-trains from imports.
But in these examples Ford either fully or partially owns the others. Remember it wasn't too long ago that Mr. Balmer was saying all manner of rude things about open-source in general and Linux in particular. Personally, I think Microsoft's fear of Google has made them re-evaluate their position.
"I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it." - Thomas Jefferson
Mike Mullikin wrote:
But in these examples Ford either fully or partially owns the others.
and in the MS example, the recent licensing exchange over Microsoft licensed content within Linux was, in a sense, a statement of partial ownership. Thus they evoked a statement of partial ownership, then proceeded to license, and then sell the product.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
But in these examples Ford either fully or partially owns the others.
and in the MS example, the recent licensing exchange over Microsoft licensed content within Linux was, in a sense, a statement of partial ownership. Thus they evoked a statement of partial ownership, then proceeded to license, and then sell the product.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
El Corazon wrote:
the recent licensing exchange over Microsoft licensed content within Linux was, in a sense, a statement of partial ownership.
OK... I didn't get that sense at all. :~ But then again, I tend not to pay enough attention most of the time. ;P
"I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it." - Thomas Jefferson
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...a cold day[^]
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com
Christopher Duncan wrote:
...a cold day[^]
I did have to turn on the heater as I passed HEL this morning... but other than the shiver, I didn't think anything of it.... ;P
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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El Corazon wrote:
the recent licensing exchange over Microsoft licensed content within Linux was, in a sense, a statement of partial ownership.
OK... I didn't get that sense at all. :~ But then again, I tend not to pay enough attention most of the time. ;P
"I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it." - Thomas Jefferson
Mike Mullikin wrote:
OK... I didn't get that sense at all.
Okay... Microsoft makes a big issue out of Microsoft Licensed code content within Linux, demands that people pay rights, people do, which validates MS claim. Think of it as a country planting a flag.... You sail 1000 miles to a little island, plant a flag claiming the island as belonging to you, and exclaim it to all the people already living there.... It seems silly, but we accept it. Microsoft planted a flag using the legal claim to licensed content within Linux. People honored the presence of the flag by acknowledging the license claim, so now Microsoft can sell Linux. :) silly, but pretty straight forward.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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so it is you ... why did you change ur name if i may ask? or did that conversation happen already and i missed it?
"there is no spoon" {me}
I asked about a week ago. Blame the PHBs. X|
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer