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  • L Lost User

    Hire a car and see some of the country side

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    Al Beback
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    Josh Gray wrote:

    see some of the country side

    Yeah, but which country's side? :)


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      Josh Gray wrote:

      see some of the country side

      Yeah, but which country's side? :)


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      Al Beback wrote:

      Yeah, but which country's side?

      Well what interests you? You could go western Europe and see Belgium, Holland, France, Germany. Or Eastern and see Austria, hungary, Poland, Croatia or go Northern and say go Denmark, Sweden, Finland etc I'd fly to Holland, hire a car and spend the two weeks in Holland, France, Belgium, Germany. Just see where each day takes you, stay in little hotels, eat, go to the markets, eat, see some of the smaller towns, eat, drink, and eat some more.

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        I'm an American who's never visited Europe. In July, I'm taking a couple of weeks to go there with my wife. Where should we go? How would you spend your time during those two weeks to get the most out of the experience? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!


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        Personally, I'd head straight for Wacken, but your mileage may vary ( it's the site of the biggest open air metal festival in Europe ).

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          I'm an American who's never visited Europe. In July, I'm taking a couple of weeks to go there with my wife. Where should we go? How would you spend your time during those two weeks to get the most out of the experience? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!


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          Land in any big cities ( Paris, London, Madrid, Amsterdam, Rome ) and jump around with ryanAir or other dirt cheap air transport they have in europe. Couple of week = 2 weeks ? try to get a plane ticket with a different landing and departure city. Land in London, kill the jetlag there, you will be less stressed being in another anglo country; stay 3 days. Take the train to Paris, 3 days. Take a plane to Barcelona again, 3 days; take a plane to Rome, 3 days; then take a train up to switzerland or austria to at least go trhue the Alps; and fly back from there.


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            I'm an American who's never visited Europe. In July, I'm taking a couple of weeks to go there with my wife. Where should we go? How would you spend your time during those two weeks to get the most out of the experience? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!


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            Al Beback wrote:

            Where should we go?

            I had a really good time in Denmark, but that was when Christiana was in existence and some folks gave me a cabin to live in when I returned from touring Norway and Sweden in return for my helping them install a wood stove for winter heating. They were setting up the cabin for a son who was graduating from high school. They invited me back for the 21st anniversary celebration of Christiana but I have heard that the government has cleared them out to make way for new building. Very friendly people in Denmark. :cool:

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              I'm an American who's never visited Europe. In July, I'm taking a couple of weeks to go there with my wife. Where should we go? How would you spend your time during those two weeks to get the most out of the experience? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!


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              I think it really depends on what you like to do. My sister in law is very well traveled and she loves Hungary (she's a math major). She said England is very expensive for what it offers and she found Germany interesting because it is part of her ethnic background. This last year she did another tour of southern Italy, part of Greece, and Turkey. Her advice is to spend as much time in one area, then come back to see another. Otherwise you will be too exhausted by the end of the trip and need a vacation after your vacation.

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                Land in any big cities ( Paris, London, Madrid, Amsterdam, Rome ) and jump around with ryanAir or other dirt cheap air transport they have in europe. Couple of week = 2 weeks ? try to get a plane ticket with a different landing and departure city. Land in London, kill the jetlag there, you will be less stressed being in another anglo country; stay 3 days. Take the train to Paris, 3 days. Take a plane to Barcelona again, 3 days; take a plane to Rome, 3 days; then take a train up to switzerland or austria to at least go trhue the Alps; and fly back from there.


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                Cheap air lines are good, but dont limit your options to the biggest cities. In Italy I would consider Florence or Venice over Rome. Moving around too much though can eat into your vacation time. Maybe include train travel as chill out and travel time. Trains leave and arrive at city centres so you often save time taking trains, avoiding the need to travel out of cities to airports and early check in time. Or you can take an over night train and incorporate a nights accomodation with transport.

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                • A Al Beback

                  I'm an American who's never visited Europe. In July, I'm taking a couple of weeks to go there with my wife. Where should we go? How would you spend your time during those two weeks to get the most out of the experience? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!


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                  Colin Angus Mackay
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                  My recommendation is Spain. But I wouldn't recommend hiring a car unless you plan to travel outside the major cities. If you are used to US driving then Spanish driving will freak you out. The trains are excellent. You can take the AVE (Alta Velocidad de Espanya) from Madrid to Seville in 2h30. They are building an AVE line to Barcelona, I'm not sure when it is due to be opened, but it will cut the journey time so that it is better to go by train than plane.


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                  • A Al Beback

                    I'm an American who's never visited Europe. In July, I'm taking a couple of weeks to go there with my wife. Where should we go? How would you spend your time during those two weeks to get the most out of the experience? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!


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                    Maybe visit Praque? A change from the usual places.

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                    • A Al Beback

                      I'm an American who's never visited Europe. In July, I'm taking a couple of weeks to go there with my wife. Where should we go? How would you spend your time during those two weeks to get the most out of the experience? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!


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                      DirtyAndy
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                      Europe is a big place, many people make the mistake of trying to see too much in a short time, which means they really end up seeing nothing. The first time I went to Europe (I know live in Europe, but travelled from New Zealand when I was younger), I went for three weeks and got a good taste. Trying to do more than one country in two weeks would be a bit of a waste. You should be able to get an airfare that arrives in one city and departs another without too much cost difference. Personally I would recommend flying to Milan in Italy, spend a day or two there. Catch a train to Venice - very easy and about 2 hours. Spend 2-3 days there (if budget is an issue stay in Mestre which is just outside Venice and a 10 minute train journey - much cheaper). Catch a train to Florence and spend 4-5 days there, maybe more. Look at day trips to Sienna and San Gimignano. The Tuscan countryside is beautiful. Then catch the train to Rome and have a couple of days there, fly out of Rome. That would be a reasonable Italian holiday. You could do similar in Spain, France or Germany but in Italy you get to see a lot without having to do huge mileage - the distances are a bit more in other countries. Netherland, Belgium etc in my opinion are not as scenic, and much smaller - but they have nice things as well. Enjoy!

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                        I'm an American who's never visited Europe. In July, I'm taking a couple of weeks to go there with my wife. Where should we go? How would you spend your time during those two weeks to get the most out of the experience? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!


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                        There are nice places in Italy (see post above) for people who like hot weather. If you don't speak spanish, stay away from Spain, because many people won't (want to) speak English there. For tourists who like wonderful landscape and waterfalls Norway is the country to visit: Spend a whole week exploring the northern coast! Then cross the baltic sea and Denmark, visit the small islands in the northern sea (one day per island should be enough) and continue your trip through Holland (stay away from the green stuff you get in so called coffee shops) and France (stay away from the suburbs). Dictionaries an other language helpers: Forget it! Every one of our small countries has its own language or a horrible dialect of a language you thougt you knew. Speak slowly and most people will understand your English. Trains: High speed trains like the ICE seem to be exypensive, but they really are worth the money compared to other trains. Cars: The speed limit on highways varies. Before you cross a border you should inform yourself about the traffic laws of the country aýou are about to enter. Food and hotels: Go to Italy for food and to Germany for good service. You might want to stay in Switzerland or Austria to "commute". Have a nice trip!

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                          I'm an American who's never visited Europe. In July, I'm taking a couple of weeks to go there with my wife. Where should we go? How would you spend your time during those two weeks to get the most out of the experience? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!


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                          If there's one country you must hit, it's Italy. Absolutely beautiful country. :)

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                            Personally, I'd head straight for Wacken, but your mileage may vary ( it's the site of the biggest open air metal festival in Europe ).

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                            sometimes you're so predictable. :rolleyes:

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                              If there's one country you must hit, it's Italy. Absolutely beautiful country. :)

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                              Corinna John
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                              Norway is just as beautiful. ;) I think we should build an ultra-highspeed subway connection from Rome to Oslo. Tourists could see the south and the north of Europe without having to cross the boring land in the middle. :cool:

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