Got me thinking
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Every now and again i upgrade my computer, but at what point does it stop being an old upgraded computer and start being considered as a new computer?
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Every now and again i upgrade my computer, but at what point does it stop being an old upgraded computer and start being considered as a new computer?
When you no longer have parts that can be considered old.
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When you no longer have parts that can be considered old.
So, if i buy a complete new system (motherboard, processor, etc) and stick it into my old case, it is not considered new.
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Every now and again i upgrade my computer, but at what point does it stop being an old upgraded computer and start being considered as a new computer?
wheelerbarry wrote:
....at what point does it stop being an old upgraded computer and start being considered as a new computer?
In my opinion; never. A "computer" is a collection of multiple parts such as harddrives, CPU fans, memory capsules and so on. If you say that the "computer" is new, in my book that would mean that all parts of it are new, including the case. Compare with a car that consists of steering wheel, tyres, gearbox and so on. If you say that you have bought a new car it wouldn't just mean that you've replaced the old tyres with new ones.
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So, if i buy a complete new system (motherboard, processor, etc) and stick it into my old case, it is not considered new.
This reminds me of the gag about the street cleaner who's given an award for having used the same brush for 40 years. Asked how he's done it he replies that it's had 15 new handles and 32 new heads.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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This reminds me of the gag about the street cleaner who's given an award for having used the same brush for 40 years. Asked how he's done it he replies that it's had 15 new handles and 32 new heads.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
Something Trigger once said in Only Fools and Horses. Kinda what got me stared on this thought, along with moving my computer into a new case and sticking some new thing in it.
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Every now and again i upgrade my computer, but at what point does it stop being an old upgraded computer and start being considered as a new computer?
When it doesn't contain any dust anymore.
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Every now and again i upgrade my computer, but at what point does it stop being an old upgraded computer and start being considered as a new computer?
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wheelerbarry wrote:
....at what point does it stop being an old upgraded computer and start being considered as a new computer?
In my opinion; never. A "computer" is a collection of multiple parts such as harddrives, CPU fans, memory capsules and so on. If you say that the "computer" is new, in my book that would mean that all parts of it are new, including the case. Compare with a car that consists of steering wheel, tyres, gearbox and so on. If you say that you have bought a new car it wouldn't just mean that you've replaced the old tyres with new ones.
"It's supposed to be hard, otherwise anybody could do it!" - selfquote
"High speed never compensates for wrong direction!" - unknownSo if i keep the same hard drive for 10 years, but change everthing else, it is it considered new. Why if i bought a computer from Dell and stuck my current hard drive in it, surely that is a new computer, not just an updated version of my current one. On the car anolgy. If i bought a new car, but put my current wheels on it, does that mean i do not have a new car.
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Every now and again i upgrade my computer, but at what point does it stop being an old upgraded computer and start being considered as a new computer?
When the case is shiny with blinding LEDs. When nobody can tell it's old.
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So if i keep the same hard drive for 10 years, but change everthing else, it is it considered new. Why if i bought a computer from Dell and stuck my current hard drive in it, surely that is a new computer, not just an updated version of my current one. On the car anolgy. If i bought a new car, but put my current wheels on it, does that mean i do not have a new car.
wheelerbarry wrote:
So if i keep the same hard drive for 10 years, but change everthing else, it is it considered new.
I wouldn't consider it new. A 10 year old harddrive today would probably be a 1Gb IDE drive and I doubt drives that small are even made these days. A "new" computer would imply to me that it contains at least a 200 Gb disk.
wheelerbarry wrote:
On the car anolgy. If i bought a new car, but put my current wheels on it, does that mean i do not have a new car.
If you put that car out for sale, would you sell it without the wheels and not tell the buyer? Or would you claim that the car is new even if it's got old wheels and charge the same price for it? I'd expect the buyer to have strong opinions about it...
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Every now and again i upgrade my computer, but at what point does it stop being an old upgraded computer and start being considered as a new computer?
Base components = motherboard, CPU, and RAM It becomes a new system when you change CPU architectures, which usually forces a change of one or both of the other two base components. For instance - I'm using an AMD 939-based system. If I wanted to move to Intel's Core 2 Duo or AMD AM2, I would have to change all three of the base components to make the switch. At that point, it's a new system. An "upgrade" would be defined as changing to a different CPU that doesn't require a motherboard change, more memory, a different video card, etc.
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Base components = motherboard, CPU, and RAM It becomes a new system when you change CPU architectures, which usually forces a change of one or both of the other two base components. For instance - I'm using an AMD 939-based system. If I wanted to move to Intel's Core 2 Duo or AMD AM2, I would have to change all three of the base components to make the switch. At that point, it's a new system. An "upgrade" would be defined as changing to a different CPU that doesn't require a motherboard change, more memory, a different video card, etc.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001That is generaly the same conclusion that i came to, but do you have to change CPU architectures for it to be considered new. If i bought the same motherboard / CPU, and replaced what i currently had with it, could i not consider that a new computer?
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That is generaly the same conclusion that i came to, but do you have to change CPU architectures for it to be considered new. If i bought the same motherboard / CPU, and replaced what i currently had with it, could i not consider that a new computer?
- You're over-analyzing it. 2) The only person that really cares is the system builder.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Every now and again i upgrade my computer, but at what point does it stop being an old upgraded computer and start being considered as a new computer?
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Every now and again i upgrade my computer, but at what point does it stop being an old upgraded computer and start being considered as a new computer?
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