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  • L leckey 0

    I do have a Buddy Christ from the movie Dogma I enjoy looking at.

    __________________ Bob is my homeboy.

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    Red Stateler
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    leckey wrote:

    I do have a Buddy Christ from the movie Dogma I enjoy looking at.

    I thought you were Jewish. :confused:

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      leckey wrote:

      I do have a Buddy Christ from the movie Dogma I enjoy looking at.

      I thought you were Jewish. :confused:

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      Doesn't mean I can't enjoy stuff that pokes fun at other religions also.

      __________________ Bob is my homeboy.

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        leckey wrote:

        I do have a Buddy Christ from the movie Dogma I enjoy looking at.

        I thought you were Jewish. :confused:

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        That's funny.. what is that supposed to mean? Jewish people are forbidden to enjoy looking anything from another religion? Or rather in this case a movie? Have you seen the Buddy Jesus? Quite the strapping lad. Its all in the grin and the thumb.

        This statement was never false.

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          Perhaps you were originally looking for: “Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s”

          I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended. I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended. Dave

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          I like your tag! :-D

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          • E Ed Gadziemski

            I was trying to remember some bible quotes from jesus where he said something to the effect that he is not concerned with the political concerns of mankind but rather the spiritual concerns, so I did a Google search for "Jesus on Politics". This is one of the results: Comparsion shop for Jesus And Politics at BizRate. Compare stores & find low prices on Books & Magazines. Read product reviews before buying a Jesus

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            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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            Ed Gadziemski wrote:

            Read product reviews before buying a Jesus

            LOL!:laugh::laugh::laugh:

            Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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            • L leckey 0

              Doesn't mean I can't enjoy stuff that pokes fun at other religions also.

              __________________ Bob is my homeboy.

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              Oh, so you're an anti-Christian bigot? Do you think it would be OK if I got a little swastika bumper sticker? :rolleyes:

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              • C Chris Kaiser

                That's funny.. what is that supposed to mean? Jewish people are forbidden to enjoy looking anything from another religion? Or rather in this case a movie? Have you seen the Buddy Jesus? Quite the strapping lad. Its all in the grin and the thumb.

                This statement was never false.

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                Chris-Kaiser wrote:

                That's funny.. what is that supposed to mean? Jewish people are forbidden to enjoy looking anything from another religion? Or rather in this case a movie? Have you seen the Buddy Jesus? Quite the strapping lad. Its all in the grin and the thumb.

                Yes. It's supposed to make fun of Christianity and Christians. Coming from a couple of leftists who espouse tolerance, I'm shocked...SHOCKED that you would mock Christianity like that. :rolleyes:

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                  Chris-Kaiser wrote:

                  That's funny.. what is that supposed to mean? Jewish people are forbidden to enjoy looking anything from another religion? Or rather in this case a movie? Have you seen the Buddy Jesus? Quite the strapping lad. Its all in the grin and the thumb.

                  Yes. It's supposed to make fun of Christianity and Christians. Coming from a couple of leftists who espouse tolerance, I'm shocked...SHOCKED that you would mock Christianity like that. :rolleyes:

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                  Red Stateler wrote:

                  Yes. It's supposed to make fun of Christianity and Christians. Coming from a couple of leftists who espouse tolerance, I'm shocked...SHOCKED that you would mock Christianity like that. :rollseyes:

                  :laugh: That's good. I AM Christian. My great grandfather was a Lutheran minister, died at about 98 years old. I always took that film to focus more on how we distort Christianity (or more specifically how the Catholic Church does) rather than an attack on Christianity itself. And I also like some of the other messages it did include like having good ideas instead of just believing. So we don't get too rigid, which is something Jesus preached to the Sanhedrin. That they're religion was too static. And this I think brings up another point. You seek and you find. If you expect to see an attack you will. If you look deeper you can find other things.

                  This statement was never false.

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                    Red Stateler wrote:

                    Yes. It's supposed to make fun of Christianity and Christians. Coming from a couple of leftists who espouse tolerance, I'm shocked...SHOCKED that you would mock Christianity like that. :rollseyes:

                    :laugh: That's good. I AM Christian. My great grandfather was a Lutheran minister, died at about 98 years old. I always took that film to focus more on how we distort Christianity (or more specifically how the Catholic Church does) rather than an attack on Christianity itself. And I also like some of the other messages it did include like having good ideas instead of just believing. So we don't get too rigid, which is something Jesus preached to the Sanhedrin. That they're religion was too static. And this I think brings up another point. You seek and you find. If you expect to see an attack you will. If you look deeper you can find other things.

                    This statement was never false.

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                    Chris-Kaiser wrote:

                    And this I think brings up another point. You seek and you find. If you expect to see an attack you will. If you look deeper you can find other things.

                    I like that saying :) Although some people prefer to not look at it that way. :cool:


                    Cheers, Patrick

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                    • C Chris Kaiser

                      That's funny.. what is that supposed to mean? Jewish people are forbidden to enjoy looking anything from another religion? Or rather in this case a movie? Have you seen the Buddy Jesus? Quite the strapping lad. Its all in the grin and the thumb.

                      This statement was never false.

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                      Tell ya what.Jesus wouldn't have had a problem with a statue portraying him as a smiling, good natured guy. He'd probably want to be remember as a being who brought joy and hope to the world.

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                        The Grand Negus wrote:

                        On a side note, it's curious how disinterested in "major social issues" Jesus actually appeared to be. At that time, fellow Jews were crucified for minor offences like stealing; and yet we find no New Testament remarks - from Jesus or his followers - regarding "cruel and unusual punishment", etc. Why? I would tentatively suggest it's because in God's eyes the punishment is not the issue - the crime is.

                        Ah yes, stealing is horrendous but torturing someone to death...no biggy. Doesn't Christian morality suck?

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                        • M mnvkng76

                          Tell ya what.Jesus wouldn't have had a problem with a statue portraying him as a smiling, good natured guy. He'd probably want to be remember as a being who brought joy and hope to the world.

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                          mnvkng76 wrote:

                          Jesus wouldn't have had a problem with a statue portraying him as a smiling, good natured guy

                          I get really annoyed when people presume to know what I think or feel. Cant imagine what 2000 years of that must be like

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                            Chris-Kaiser wrote:

                            That's funny.. what is that supposed to mean? Jewish people are forbidden to enjoy looking anything from another religion? Or rather in this case a movie? Have you seen the Buddy Jesus? Quite the strapping lad. Its all in the grin and the thumb.

                            Yes. It's supposed to make fun of Christianity and Christians. Coming from a couple of leftists who espouse tolerance, I'm shocked...SHOCKED that you would mock Christianity like that. :rolleyes:

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                            Red Stateler wrote:

                            Yes. It's supposed to make fun of Christianity and Christians. Coming from a couple of leftists who espouse tolerance, I'm shocked...SHOCKED that you would mock Christianity like that.

                            Sounds like you've never seen the movie. It's actually making fun of the way religion is marketed these days. Not mocking Christianity, but those who treat it as a business.

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                              The Grand Negus wrote:

                              On a side note, it's curious how disinterested in "major social issues" Jesus actually appeared to be. At that time, fellow Jews were crucified for minor offences like stealing; and yet we find no New Testament remarks - from Jesus or his followers - regarding "cruel and unusual punishment", etc. Why? I would tentatively suggest it's because in God's eyes the punishment is not the issue - the crime is.

                              Ah yes, stealing is horrendous but torturing someone to death...no biggy. Doesn't Christian morality suck?

                              John Carson

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                                The Grand Negus wrote:

                                Christian morality approves of neither thievery nor torture; it was Roman law, not Christian law, that prescribed crucifixion as the penalty for stealing (and arbitrarily applied it only to non-citizens).

                                I am aware that it was Roman law. I was commenting on the fact that, as pointed out by your good self, Jesus is not recorded as saying anything about it.

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                                A glimpse of Christian morality is seen when one recalls that a repentant thief was promised Paradise by the very God who condescended to suffer the same pains Himself in the place of others; while an unrepentant thief, who sided with his fellow men against that God, was left with the sentence imposed by his fellow men. Which part of this sucks?

                                All of it: 1. The primitive notion that it is appropriate to torture someone to death in place of another and that a God temporarily "killing" his own son was necessary in order for that same God to be able to not punish third parties. 2. The fact that crucifixion existed as a penalty for anything, let alone theft (and the repentant thief doesn't appear to have been spared it, by the way). 3. The arbitrariness of giving issues of belief (eternal) consequences out of all proportion to their moral content.

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                                  Honestly I don't find Christian morality itself as it has developed, all that bad. It's what people do with it that bugs me. I understand the need to believe in a system that provides some sense of stability and in a way, absolute certainty.. but it is too easy to then use that as a basis for division and hatred. It's a constant battle in our society between those who would choose moderation and those who would choose fundamentalism. I'm not speaking of you or anyone else, specifically; merely a general observation.

                                  Cheers,

                                  Patrick

                                  An intellectual is someone whose mind watches itself.

                                  Albert Camus

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                                  • L leckey 0

                                    I do have a Buddy Christ from the movie Dogma I enjoy looking at.

                                    __________________ Bob is my homeboy.

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                                    Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                    :laugh::laugh::laugh:

                                    Anna :rose: Linting the day away :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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                                      Red Stateler wrote:

                                      Yes. It's supposed to make fun of Christianity and Christians. Coming from a couple of leftists who espouse tolerance, I'm shocked...SHOCKED that you would mock Christianity like that. :rollseyes:

                                      :laugh: That's good. I AM Christian. My great grandfather was a Lutheran minister, died at about 98 years old. I always took that film to focus more on how we distort Christianity (or more specifically how the Catholic Church does) rather than an attack on Christianity itself. And I also like some of the other messages it did include like having good ideas instead of just believing. So we don't get too rigid, which is something Jesus preached to the Sanhedrin. That they're religion was too static. And this I think brings up another point. You seek and you find. If you expect to see an attack you will. If you look deeper you can find other things.

                                      This statement was never false.

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                                      Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                      Amen to that. 5! :rose:

                                      Anna :rose: Linting the day away :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        mnvkng76 wrote:

                                        Jesus wouldn't have had a problem with a statue portraying him as a smiling, good natured guy

                                        I get really annoyed when people presume to know what I think or feel. Cant imagine what 2000 years of that must be like

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                                        mnvkng76
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                                        Then you shouldn't have had a book written about you.

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                                        • M mnvkng76

                                          Then you shouldn't have had a book written about you.

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                                          mnvkng76 wrote:

                                          Then you shouldn't have had a book written about you.

                                          That makes no sence what so ever. He didnt ask to have it written and from what I understand a large portion of it was written after his death.

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