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  • M Muhadeeb99

    As far as "proper" I sorta meant it as a tongue in cheek remark. The style to which one uses brace formatting is really up to the user. It has its merits either way.

    All things being equal, tommorrow will never equal today

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    JimAtImpac
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    I prefer the former, but VS 2005 forces me to use the latter. Everyone in my company uses VS 2005 so I have to use the same style to be consistent. Jim

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    • N N a v a n e e t h

      Which one you prefer ?

      if{
      //do something
      }

      Or

      if
      {
      //do something
      }


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      jschell
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      #118

      Claiming that one style is more "readable" than other is a loaded subjective word with no objective evidence to justify it.

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      • F Frank Kerrigan

        Last one complies to coding standards. First one is for folk who don't know any better. How about an if that runs only 1 line of code. A: if{//do something} dothis other code..... B: if{//do something} { dothis } other code.....

        Grady Booch: I told Google to their face...what you need is some serious adult supervision. (2007 Turing lecture) http://www.frankkerrigan.com/[^]

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        #119

        Frank Kerrigan wrote:

        Last one complies to coding standards

        And if the coding standard said to jump off a bridge?

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          Which one you prefer ?

          if{
          //do something
          }

          Or

          if
          {
          //do something
          }


          printf("Navaneeth!!") www.w3hearts.com

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          #120

          All paired items (braces, brackets, parentheses, quotes, and "angle-brackets") (and commas within a list) should be aligned either horizontally or vertically.

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          • S Shog9 0

            The latter. The former is used only by miscreants and rogues. :suss:

            ----

            i hope you are feeling sleepy for people not calling you by the same.

            --BarnaKol on abusive words

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            JWWicks
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            #121

            Shog9 wrote:

            used only by miscreants and rogues

            Sign me up in the miscreants and rogues class... Computers are useless, they can only give you answers...- Pablo Picasso John

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            • N N a v a n e e t h

              Which one you prefer ?

              if{
              //do something
              }

              Or

              if
              {
              //do something
              }


              printf("Navaneeth!!") www.w3hearts.com

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              Keith Barrett
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              I have a scientific(ish) test for this. * Print out a sample of code on A4 paper in 10 point courier font. * Stick it to the wall * Stand several metres away (more if you have good eyesight) * If you can still clearly discern the structure of the code then you have a good layout style

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              • N N a v a n e e t h

                Which one you prefer ?

                if{
                //do something
                }

                Or

                if
                {
                //do something
                }


                printf("Navaneeth!!") www.w3hearts.com

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                tomasorti
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                Well, it depends on the context, code, tool used, etc... Sometimes one can be more suitable than the other. For example, when functions are larger than a page, if you position in the closing brace, (X)Emacs helps you and prints in the minibuffer the matched opening brace. If you use the former (e.g.: if (x == 0) { ) it is helpful. I'm sure you can find pros and cons for both. Just my 2 cents, Tomas

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                • N N a v a n e e t h

                  Which one you prefer ?

                  if{
                  //do something
                  }

                  Or

                  if
                  {
                  //do something
                  }


                  printf("Navaneeth!!") www.w3hearts.com

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                  nilotic
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                  it doesn't really matter UNLESS you're nesting loops like a madman. My first script (almost 900 lines) had about 16 nested loops (ie. 16 deep !) and it obviously hurt like hell trying to debug it. I just wrote it without any planning or consideration for separating tasks into modules or even routines. Looking back, I am amazed I wasn't quietly assassinated by the programmer who had to check it over when I began running it at work, on the live system. Anyway, I converted to the latter style (braces on new lines) because it gave me that little bit of help seeing the blocks/scopes. modern IDE's have a beautify option so it doesn't matter anymore. Wish I'd known that back then. I'm considering starting a thread about 'my first script..was shocking' because it does get funnier the more I think about it.....but I can't find the option to 'start a new thread'. Do I just 'reply' but change the subject field?

                  'All there really is, is: virtue and vice' ...Black Crowes

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                  • N N a v a n e e t h

                    Which one you prefer ?

                    if{
                    //do something
                    }

                    Or

                    if
                    {
                    //do something
                    }


                    printf("Navaneeth!!") www.w3hearts.com

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                    Ed K
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                    #125

                    Prefer the latter and require them. Too many bugs find their way into the code without.

                    ed ~"Watch your thoughts; they become your words. Watch your words they become your actions. Watch your actions; they become your habits. Watch your habits; they become your character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny." -Frank Outlaw.

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                    • N N a v a n e e t h

                      Which one you prefer ?

                      if{
                      //do something
                      }

                      Or

                      if
                      {
                      //do something
                      }


                      printf("Navaneeth!!") www.w3hearts.com

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                      SouthRoss
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                      #126

                      Gotta say, I prefer the latter for two reasons 1.)because I can place the cursor next to one brace and find the matching one just by using the up/down arows on my keyboard. works with any text file editor, syntax aware or not (even notepad) 2.) there are occasions where want to remove the condition but keep the code block eg // if (condition) { // do something } Easy to achieve either way of course, but just that little bit easier the second way (because you only need to "play" with one line. Having said that, the company I work for uses the first method, so I'm pretty much stuck with it. After the first 5 minutes using a particular style professionals will get used to it. If someones skills are that shaky that "weird" braces cause them to melt down, they'd probably want to be brushing up on those software engineering 101 skills...:laugh: Karl

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                      • D Dario Solera

                        The real problem with braces is not the style itself, but different styles in the same project, or even file. Most IDEs can reformat the code, but that way there are a few problems with source control... BTW, I prefer this:

                        if(true) {
                        // Blah
                        }

                        If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                        Vikram A Punathambekar
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                        #127

                        Dario Solera wrote:

                        The real problem with braces is not the style itself, but different styles in the same project, or even file.

                        There was this guy I knew.... :^)

                        Dario Solera wrote:

                        BTW, I prefer this: if(true) { // Blah }

                        You have disappointed me. Prepare to die....

                        Cheers, Vıkram.


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                        • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                          Dario Solera wrote:

                          The real problem with braces is not the style itself, but different styles in the same project, or even file.

                          There was this guy I knew.... :^)

                          Dario Solera wrote:

                          BTW, I prefer this: if(true) { // Blah }

                          You have disappointed me. Prepare to die....

                          Cheers, Vıkram.


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                          Dario Solera
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                          Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                          You have disappointed me.

                          :zzz:

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                          • A Al Chambers

                            My favourite (probably) apocryphal story on this point is that K&R used their style for no other reason that to save space (and thus publishing costs) in their book. I sooo want this to be true. What about this one: if (something) { do_something(); } While we're at it... Tabs or spaces? :-)

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                            JMOdom
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                            #129

                            I have seen one classmate of mine type code in the following manner: if (something){do_something();} Its ok i suppose if it isn't to long. ;P

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                              Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                              You have disappointed me.

                              :zzz:

                              If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                              Vikram A Punathambekar
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                              :laugh: I suppose I should have included the 'joke' marker. ;)

                              Cheers, Vıkram.


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                              • J John R Shaw

                                The space is not big deal, but I like consistency and placing that space suggests to me that a space should be place before every ‘(‘ character. When I started programming (in C) using ‘++i’ as apposed to ‘i++’ was a very minor optimization, as the compilers did not do the optimization for you. In C it was not really that important, even when the machines where slow, but is C++ it can make a big difference. As you noted “Most of the time it makes no difference”, but if you make it a habit and teach others to do the same thing, which most books do now, then they are learning the wrong thing. Even Bjarne Stroustrup uses ‘++i’ instead of ‘i++’ although I have never read a statement by him as to why he does that. But other experts on the language have explained it in detail.

                                INTP "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence."Edsger Dijkstra

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                                Craig Atwood
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                                as far as if() with or without a space in between i dont care but the difference between "i++" and "++i" is... i++ = returns the value of 'i' before it was incremented ++i = returns the value of 'i' after it was incremented e.g

                                int i = 1;
                                if(++i == 2)
                                {
                                thisWillWork();
                                }
                                //
                                //OR
                                //
                                int i = 1;
                                if(i++ == 2)
                                {
                                thisWontWork();
                                }

                                This is what the operators do and you can use them bassed on what you need your code to do. if you use them correctly you can end up saving a few lines of code:cool: ps. as to my brace style brace on next line = more readable thats my vote

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                                • G grgran

                                  God of course intended that there be only one bracing style. All other expose one as a programmer who has fallen from the path. The pattern for an 'if' is as follows:

                                  if (conditional) { // waste not, want not: don't waste vertical space
                                  statement(s) // note the indention, this clearly identifies these statements as
                                  // belonging to the if
                                  } // note the indention again, this closes the if logic, it is the
                                  // end of the existing block, not the beginning of a new one

                                  Of course heritics abound, but my place in "code vault store" is assured (ya have to be a fan of STTNG Klingon afterlife to get that one). Go forth and spread the glad tiding and good bracings and do not hesitate to cntl-K cntl-D the code of the unbelievers. ;):laugh: Brace Zealot -- modified at 11:16 Thursday 17th May, 2007

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                                  Craig Atwood
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                                  BLASPHEMY!!!!:omg: indenting the closing brace *-Shudder-* u r a Patagh

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                                  • D Dan Neely

                                    grgran wrote:

                                    Of course heritics abound, but my place in "code vault store"

                                    Brandishes steel cored foam cluebat. *BIFFF* *BIFFF* *BIFFF* *BIFFF* *BIFFF* *BIFFF* *BIFFF* *BIFFF*

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                                    grgran
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                                    Don't you mean a foam clue-batleth LOL

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                                    • C Craig Atwood

                                      BLASPHEMY!!!!:omg: indenting the closing brace *-Shudder-* u r a Patagh

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                                      grgran
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                                      Do not fear brother. One day you shall be brought into light, cleansed and purified. Then you can find the true joy known only by those who indent our closing braces. Convert now and do not risk an afterlife protected by Fek'lhr.

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                                        urbane tiger
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                                        #135

                                        what about delegates, how do folks brace those? On other things I use brace-on-line, unless I put content on same line eg - case Monday : { DoWork(); break; }. Before I started using IDE's I always used K&R style, but tubes were smaller then, so whether it's IDE's or screen size I dunno,: sigh: could be age philD

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                                        • G grgran

                                          Do not fear brother. One day you shall be brought into light, cleansed and purified. Then you can find the true joy known only by those who indent our closing braces. Convert now and do not risk an afterlife protected by Fek'lhr.

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                                          Craig Atwood
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                                          MORE BLASPHEMY!!! the true if is as follows

                                          if(condition)
                                          {
                                          doStuff();
                                          }
                                          else
                                          {
                                          doSomethingElse();
                                          }

                                          Your Brace style bears the identifiable stench of a Vagabond Romulan coder, May Fek'lhr forgive your dishonour.

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