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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    S2003RDS wrote:

    What do poeple do after software development

    There's an "after"?

    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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    Christian Graus
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    I think it's called death.

    Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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      Hi all, I need some advice. I've been a software developer for the last six years. I've progressed to development manager within that time and that for me still involves a lot of programming. I feel it's time for a change. What do poeple do after software development and how do they go about doing it? Thanks for your time Sion

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      Marc Clifton
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      S2003RDS wrote:

      What do poeple do after software development and how do they go about doing it?

      Several amusing options: You become an industry consultant in say, Agile Programming. That's a bit passe now, so pick something more modern, like Silverlight, WPF, etc. You develop your own applications and struggle trying to market them and attract investors. You write a book and discover publishing a book doesn't pay the bills. You join or create an open source project, work for free, and make a name for yourself bashing Microsoft until Miguel convinces Novell to actually hire you. Marc

      Thyme In The Country
      Interacx

      People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
      There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
      People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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        I think it's called death.

        Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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        JimmyRopes
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        Christian Graus wrote:

        I think it's called death.

        Or prison, depending on your past accomplishments. :~

        Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
        Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
        I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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          Hi all, I need some advice. I've been a software developer for the last six years. I've progressed to development manager within that time and that for me still involves a lot of programming. I feel it's time for a change. What do poeple do after software development and how do they go about doing it? Thanks for your time Sion

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          Shog9 0
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          S2003RDS wrote:

          What do poeple do after software development and how do they go about doing it?

          I cook and drink, not necessarily in that order.

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          i hope you are feeling sleepy for people not calling you by the same.

          --BarnaKol on abusive words

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            S2003RDS wrote:

            What do poeple do after software development and how do they go about doing it?

            Several amusing options: You become an industry consultant in say, Agile Programming. That's a bit passe now, so pick something more modern, like Silverlight, WPF, etc. You develop your own applications and struggle trying to market them and attract investors. You write a book and discover publishing a book doesn't pay the bills. You join or create an open source project, work for free, and make a name for yourself bashing Microsoft until Miguel convinces Novell to actually hire you. Marc

            Thyme In The Country
            Interacx

            People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
            There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
            People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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            Virtual Coder
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            Marc Clifton wrote:

            Several amusing options: You become an industry consultant in say, Agile Programming. That's a bit passe now, so pick something more modern, like Silverlight, WPF, etc.

            'Agile' cannot die because it's now a religion. But if you are not a convert Silverlight, WPF, or RoR is the better option.

            Marc Clifton wrote:

            You develop your own applications and struggle trying to market them and attract investors.

            Highly specialized software for an industry sector may be promising, certainly not Nagware (a.k.a. Shareware).

            Marc Clifton wrote:

            You write a book and discover publishing a book doesn't pay the bills.

            Not even Charles Petzold's. But it may make a name for yourself.

            Marc Clifton wrote:

            You join or create an open source project, work for free, and make a name for yourself bashing Microsoft until Miguel convinces Novell to actually hire you.

            This is the best proposal so far. But who wants to be hired by Novell when you can have 10M in venture capital and will probably be bought in a year by Oracle for a multiple: http://www.infoq.com/news/2007/05/interface21-gets-funding[^] The Ultimate Career Option is: Become a SAP consultant! Look at the Job offerings: SAP was top 10 years ago and 5 years ago. It's top now and will be in the future.

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              I think it's called death.

              Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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              Virtual Coder
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              Christian Graus wrote:

              I think it's called death.

              Social death, a.k.a. unemployment.

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                Marc Clifton wrote:

                Several amusing options: You become an industry consultant in say, Agile Programming. That's a bit passe now, so pick something more modern, like Silverlight, WPF, etc.

                'Agile' cannot die because it's now a religion. But if you are not a convert Silverlight, WPF, or RoR is the better option.

                Marc Clifton wrote:

                You develop your own applications and struggle trying to market them and attract investors.

                Highly specialized software for an industry sector may be promising, certainly not Nagware (a.k.a. Shareware).

                Marc Clifton wrote:

                You write a book and discover publishing a book doesn't pay the bills.

                Not even Charles Petzold's. But it may make a name for yourself.

                Marc Clifton wrote:

                You join or create an open source project, work for free, and make a name for yourself bashing Microsoft until Miguel convinces Novell to actually hire you.

                This is the best proposal so far. But who wants to be hired by Novell when you can have 10M in venture capital and will probably be bought in a year by Oracle for a multiple: http://www.infoq.com/news/2007/05/interface21-gets-funding[^] The Ultimate Career Option is: Become a SAP consultant! Look at the Job offerings: SAP was top 10 years ago and 5 years ago. It's top now and will be in the future.

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                Marc Clifton
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                Virtual Coder wrote:

                Become a SAP consultant!

                If I'm going to hell, I'd rather wait until I die. Marc

                Thyme In The Country
                Interacx

                People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                  Hi all, I need some advice. I've been a software developer for the last six years. I've progressed to development manager within that time and that for me still involves a lot of programming. I feel it's time for a change. What do poeple do after software development and how do they go about doing it? Thanks for your time Sion

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                  PIEBALDconsult
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                  If you even consider not being a software developer, then you shouldn't be one. I, and I suppose many others here, wouldn't consider anything else, it's what we do, we do it for fun even when we're not being paid. If you're that type get out now. Even if I became rich and bought a Carribean island I'd spend too much time inside at a computer.

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                  • S S2003RDS

                    Hi all, I need some advice. I've been a software developer for the last six years. I've progressed to development manager within that time and that for me still involves a lot of programming. I feel it's time for a change. What do poeple do after software development and how do they go about doing it? Thanks for your time Sion

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                    Allen Anderson
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                    I started my own company, got bought out and am now a COO. I programmed for a long time and now it's sorta nice to be in executive management. I'm enjoying the travel and customer interaction a lot. Programming was a lot of fun, but eventually most move on.

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                    • J JimmyRopes

                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      I think it's called death.

                      Or prison, depending on your past accomplishments. :~

                      Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                      Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                      I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                      realJSOP
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                      Nah - I've been to prison, and I was a programmer before and after that particular event.

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                      -----
                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                        S2003RDS wrote:

                        What do poeple do after software development and how do they go about doing it?

                        I cook and drink, not necessarily in that order.

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                        i hope you are feeling sleepy for people not calling you by the same.

                        --BarnaKol on abusive words

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                        Write your own operating system.:laugh:

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          Nah - I've been to prison, and I was a programmer before and after that particular event.

                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                          -----
                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                          :wtf:

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                          • realJSOPR realJSOP

                            S2003RDS wrote:

                            What do poeple do after software development

                            There's an "after"?

                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                            -----
                            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                            lashmun
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                            Ditto :-D - I've been a software engineer since 1978 (embedded systems for the automotive industry) and can not think of anything else I would want to do. 'After' for me would be retirement (in ten years or so).

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                              Hi all, I need some advice. I've been a software developer for the last six years. I've progressed to development manager within that time and that for me still involves a lot of programming. I feel it's time for a change. What do poeple do after software development and how do they go about doing it? Thanks for your time Sion

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                              Steve Naidamast
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                              If you already want to leave technical work after only 6 years that is an indication that you were never cut out for it in the first place. Moving to another area in the IT field would probably not find you any more satisfied if it still deals with the technical areas. As for management, good software developers usually don't make good managers with exception. And if you don't have the technical background required you will make an even worse manager. In this instance, its a catch-22. This is why IT is populated with so many bad managers. Maybe you should go back to school for a complete career change. I have been in the field for 34+ years. If its not technical in IT, it simply isn't and you are wasting your time...

                              Steve Naidamast Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@ix.netcom.com

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                                Hi all, I need some advice. I've been a software developer for the last six years. I've progressed to development manager within that time and that for me still involves a lot of programming. I feel it's time for a change. What do poeple do after software development and how do they go about doing it? Thanks for your time Sion

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                                bekiser
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                                The sad truth is that you are probably stuck in programming to some degree. The big question that will determine this is, do you have any other skills? If the answer is no, realistically you're not going anywhere unless you're independently wealthy. -Brian (developer for 15+ years)

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                                  Ditto :-D - I've been a software engineer since 1978 (embedded systems for the automotive industry) and can not think of anything else I would want to do. 'After' for me would be retirement (in ten years or so).

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                                  lashmun wrote:

                                  since 1978

                                  OMG I was born in 1978!! They had computers back then? :)

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                                    Hi all, I need some advice. I've been a software developer for the last six years. I've progressed to development manager within that time and that for me still involves a lot of programming. I feel it's time for a change. What do poeple do after software development and how do they go about doing it? Thanks for your time Sion

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                                    Leeland Clay
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                                    I've been a programmer since I was 12. I can't imagine NOT programming. I think a lot of it has to do with how you actually feel about programming. Are you a programmer or do you hold a position as a programmer. This may sound silly...but I really believe that programming is in your blood. don't get me wrong...ANYONE can learn how to sling code...but a true programmer looks at what they do as art. You can't learn that. It becomes part of you. I've seen a LOT of people go through classes and learn to program and enjoy doing it...but didn't last. The reason is typically because they actually listened to the commercials from ITT (and others) who said take this course and earn $70k+/year. While money is nice, it shouldn't be your ONLY guiding factor. If you want my honest advice on what to do next...look inside. What makes you happy??? Whatever it is, do it. If you were given a choice between 24 hours of unlimited access with Linus (or any other genius of development) and 24 hours of something else...and you didn't take the coding...then you're probably in the wrong profession. /babbling off :)

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                                      lashmun wrote:

                                      since 1978

                                      OMG I was born in 1978!! They had computers back then? :)

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                                      lashmun
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                                      Now, now...be nice...us geezers can't afford to get too wound up...:zzz: And yes...the 'Flintstone' era computers were a little different (made of rocks and such).

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                                        S2003RDS wrote:

                                        What do poeple do after software development and how do they go about doing it?

                                        I cook and drink, not necessarily in that order.

                                        ----

                                        i hope you are feeling sleepy for people not calling you by the same.

                                        --BarnaKol on abusive words

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                                        aubndez
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                                        Isn't that a requirement to be in software development in the first place? :laugh:

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                                          Now, now...be nice...us geezers can't afford to get too wound up...:zzz: And yes...the 'Flintstone' era computers were a little different (made of rocks and such).

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                                          To be honest I have the utmost respect for anyone that programmed in the 'Flintstone' eras. You programmed by knowing how the computer worked unlike a lot of *new* developers who haven't even heard of the stack and heap.

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