Dinosaurs sailed in ships
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This list in it's entirety is proof that people can be really smart, yet still see the world through their personal filters. Dr. Bryant Wood, Creationist Archaeologist Isn't that like a feminist biologist ? I met one of those, she insisted there were no brain differences between men and women, because that's what she believed. The facts made no difference to her.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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This list in it's entirety is proof that people can be really smart, yet still see the world through their personal filters. Dr. Bryant Wood, Creationist Archaeologist Isn't that like a feminist biologist ? I met one of those, she insisted there were no brain differences between men and women, because that's what she believed. The facts made no difference to her.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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The Grand Negus wrote:
lives in Kentucky by choice.
Not surprising. You blend right in.
The Grand Negus wrote:
try not to pass on your prejudicial views
Wow, isn't this the pot calling the kettle black?
The Grand Negus wrote:
there are enough unthinking people in the world already.
Then quit trolling for recruits for your plain unthinking order.
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What scares you, is that you have nothing on Dawkins.
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Dawkins is obviously pushing a barrow as well, the title of his last book proves that. I'm saying that the correct title is 'biologist', or 'archeologist'. The prefix is, in both cases, saying 'so long as it fits in with what I believe'. Most archeologists or biologists will believe in evolution, obviously. That's not my point.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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The Grand Negus wrote:
Dr. Gary E. Parker, Biologist, Cognate in Geology (Paleontology)
I once read a book by this gentleman. It was the most dishonest book I have ever read, bar none. Reading it was actually rather important in my intellectual development. It showed me that Christians, in spite of their representations of personal piety, could be out and out liars. The scales fell from my eyes. From that point on I viewed everything Christians said with the same scepticism I applied to all other claims. It was then just a short journey to atheism.
John Carson
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The Grand Negus wrote:
Dr. Gary E. Parker, Biologist, Cognate in Geology (Paleontology)
I once read a book by this gentleman. It was the most dishonest book I have ever read, bar none. Reading it was actually rather important in my intellectual development. It showed me that Christians, in spite of their representations of personal piety, could be out and out liars. The scales fell from my eyes. From that point on I viewed everything Christians said with the same scepticism I applied to all other claims. It was then just a short journey to atheism.
John Carson
John Carson wrote:
It was then just a short journey to atheism.
Curiously, my intellectual journey has been just the opposite. I started off as an athiest and was drawn away from it by the intellectual dishonesty of its proponents.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
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Dawkins is obviously pushing a barrow as well, the title of his last book proves that. I'm saying that the correct title is 'biologist', or 'archeologist'. The prefix is, in both cases, saying 'so long as it fits in with what I believe'. Most archeologists or biologists will believe in evolution, obviously. That's not my point.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
The reason why he uses evolutionary as prefix is that ID proponents also call themselves biologists. I don't think he wants to be mistaken for a nut case. ;)
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The reason why he uses evolutionary as prefix is that ID proponents also call themselves biologists. I don't think he wants to be mistaken for a nut case. ;)
Sure - because he is worked up about it. Otherwise, he'd write different books to those he does. This makes him no different to a 'creationist archeologist', except that he's on the side of the majority. In both cases, they should call themselves what they are, without a prefix that indicates a bias and an axe to grind.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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Sure - because he is worked up about it. Otherwise, he'd write different books to those he does. This makes him no different to a 'creationist archeologist', except that he's on the side of the majority. In both cases, they should call themselves what they are, without a prefix that indicates a bias and an axe to grind.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
No, he's on the side of sanity. I would be very happy if that is the same side as the majority, but it is not...
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John Carson wrote:
It was then just a short journey to atheism.
Curiously, my intellectual journey has been just the opposite. I started off as an athiest and was drawn away from it by the intellectual dishonesty of its proponents.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
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So you would rather listen to someone teaching stories out of an ancient mythology book?
The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams
I don't know what you mean by "rather", but, yes, I find the bible (and other religious texts) provides absolutely fascinating insights into the minds of ancient peoples, and how the moral principles upon which all of human civilization stands were established.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
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The Grand Negus wrote:
Just for the record: the Grand Negus was born in Cincinnati, Ohio and lives in Kentucky by choice.
Well, you can't blame your folks for that. No siree.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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The Grand Negus wrote:
Just for the record: the Grand Negus was born in Cincinnati, Ohio and lives in Kentucky by choice.
Well, you can't blame your folks for that. No siree.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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Just to provide even handed coverage. Jerry Springer was the mayor of Cincinnati before he went into TV. :->
And was apparently "born in East Finchley tube station, London, England [to] His parents, Margot and Richard Springer, were Jewish refugees from Nazi Germany" and "was forced to resign in 1974 after admitting to hiring a prostitute [in]... a Fort Wright, Kentucky "massage parlor"." :laugh: oh man.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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I don't know what you mean by "rather", but, yes, I find the bible (and other religious texts) provides absolutely fascinating insights into the minds of ancient peoples, and how the moral principles upon which all of human civilization stands were established.
Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about
Quote: I don't know what you mean by "rather", but, yes, I find the bible (and other religious texts) provides absolutely fascinating insights into the minds of ancient peoples, and how the moral principles upon which all of human civilization stands were established. Really? How moral is this? "Women should be silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but should be submissive, as the law also says." (1 Corinthians 14:34) "But if ... evidences of virginity are not found for the young woman, then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones..." (Deuteronomy 22:20,21) "Slaves, obey your human masters with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ." (Ephesians 6:5)
The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams
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No, he's on the side of sanity. I would be very happy if that is the same side as the majority, but it is not...
So you disagree with my position, which is that scientist should pursue the facts, and if the facts support a minority view, he should champion it ? Note: I am not saying that the facts absolutely DO suppor the minority, I am saying a scientist shouldn't say 'I accept the science that supports my bias', in either direction.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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The Grand Negus wrote:
Dr. Gary E. Parker, Biologist, Cognate in Geology (Paleontology)
I once read a book by this gentleman. It was the most dishonest book I have ever read, bar none. Reading it was actually rather important in my intellectual development. It showed me that Christians, in spite of their representations of personal piety, could be out and out liars. The scales fell from my eyes. From that point on I viewed everything Christians said with the same scepticism I applied to all other claims. It was then just a short journey to atheism.
John Carson
Fascinating generalisation. So, you assume that because what this guy wrote is wrong, he was a liar ( and not just deluded, for example ), which, in turn, meant that all Christians are liars ?
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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So you disagree with my position, which is that scientist should pursue the facts, and if the facts support a minority view, he should champion it ? Note: I am not saying that the facts absolutely DO suppor the minority, I am saying a scientist shouldn't say 'I accept the science that supports my bias', in either direction.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Christian Graus wrote:
and if the facts support a minority view, he should champion it ?
I don't know where I disagreed to that? :~
Christian Graus wrote:
I am saying a scientist shouldn't say 'I accept the science that supports my bias', in either direction.
The problem with creationists is that they aren't scientists, so they don't count. Dawkins is a scientist, which is his entire argument basically.
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