Laptop recommendation
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I am looking at hp Pavilion tx1016AU[^], which is a 64 bit tablet pc. It looks like a good buy, but I have a few questions. This one being a 64 bit computer, will I be able to write applications for 32 bit computers sitting on it? I guess there has to be a setting in VS wherein I can specify if I need my app to run on 32 or 64 bit. I have never worked with 64 bit computers and so I do not know this for sure. Is there anything else that you think is bad about this notebook? I cannot think outside HP since my company has a tie-up with them. Moreover, can someone tell me if the AMD processor that it has will be good? :~ Is there an HP alternative that you would suggest? My budget is 85000 INR. Thank you very much.
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I am looking at hp Pavilion tx1016AU[^], which is a 64 bit tablet pc. It looks like a good buy, but I have a few questions. This one being a 64 bit computer, will I be able to write applications for 32 bit computers sitting on it? I guess there has to be a setting in VS wherein I can specify if I need my app to run on 32 or 64 bit. I have never worked with 64 bit computers and so I do not know this for sure. Is there anything else that you think is bad about this notebook? I cannot think outside HP since my company has a tie-up with them. Moreover, can someone tell me if the AMD processor that it has will be good? :~ Is there an HP alternative that you would suggest? My budget is 85000 INR. Thank you very much.
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero
My notebook is 64 bit and I run 32 bit windows on it, and write 32 bit apps on it.
brahmma wrote:
Is there anything else that you think is bad about this notebook?
Yes, HP sucks.
brahmma wrote:
I cannot think outside HP since my company has a tie-up with them.
I guess that's what keeps them in business, people with no choice :-)
brahmma wrote:
Moreover, can someone tell me if the AMD processor that it has will be good?
I have all AMD, for non religious reasons They are just fine.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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I am looking at hp Pavilion tx1016AU[^], which is a 64 bit tablet pc. It looks like a good buy, but I have a few questions. This one being a 64 bit computer, will I be able to write applications for 32 bit computers sitting on it? I guess there has to be a setting in VS wherein I can specify if I need my app to run on 32 or 64 bit. I have never worked with 64 bit computers and so I do not know this for sure. Is there anything else that you think is bad about this notebook? I cannot think outside HP since my company has a tie-up with them. Moreover, can someone tell me if the AMD processor that it has will be good? :~ Is there an HP alternative that you would suggest? My budget is 85000 INR. Thank you very much.
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero
32-bit applications will not normally run on 64-bit OS unless there is an emulation. I do no know if 64-32 bit emulation is built into XP/Vista. Normally, you go for 64 bit OS/CPU when you know what you are really doing! Best regards, Paul.
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My notebook is 64 bit and I run 32 bit windows on it, and write 32 bit apps on it.
brahmma wrote:
Is there anything else that you think is bad about this notebook?
Yes, HP sucks.
brahmma wrote:
I cannot think outside HP since my company has a tie-up with them.
I guess that's what keeps them in business, people with no choice :-)
brahmma wrote:
Moreover, can someone tell me if the AMD processor that it has will be good?
I have all AMD, for non religious reasons They are just fine.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Christian Graus wrote:
My notebook is 64 bit and I run 32 bit windows on it, and write 32 bit apps on it.
The little information I have on AMD, tells me it is 64/32 unlike the Intel CPUs. Best regards, Paul.
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My notebook is 64 bit and I run 32 bit windows on it, and write 32 bit apps on it.
brahmma wrote:
Is there anything else that you think is bad about this notebook?
Yes, HP sucks.
brahmma wrote:
I cannot think outside HP since my company has a tie-up with them.
I guess that's what keeps them in business, people with no choice :-)
brahmma wrote:
Moreover, can someone tell me if the AMD processor that it has will be good?
I have all AMD, for non religious reasons They are just fine.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Christian Graus wrote:
Yes, HP sucks.
I'll agree that they're overpriced, but aside from that, how does HP suck?
"The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduce them. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim." -Gustave Le Bon
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Christian Graus wrote:
Yes, HP sucks.
I'll agree that they're overpriced, but aside from that, how does HP suck?
"The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduce them. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim." -Gustave Le Bon
Mine was/is the most crash prone and poorly put together notebook I have ever owned.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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Mine was/is the most crash prone and poorly put together notebook I have ever owned.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Christian Graus wrote:
Mine was/is the most crash prone and poorly put together notebook I have ever owned.
Poorly put together? Really? I've never heard anyone say that about HP. I'm surprised. For me, Dell is/was a nightmare. The hardware is reasonable, but the customer service may as well not even exist. Basically I bought my Dell and the company could have ceased to exist and I would have had the same level of technical support as I do now. I've posted here before about how I tried contacting them about 5 different times and not once did I receive a reply or response. Unless I hear differently about their level of customer service I won't be buying from them again despite the fact that I like their computers. I hope they read this.
"The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduce them. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim." -Gustave Le Bon
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My notebook is 64 bit and I run 32 bit windows on it, and write 32 bit apps on it.
brahmma wrote:
Is there anything else that you think is bad about this notebook?
Yes, HP sucks.
brahmma wrote:
I cannot think outside HP since my company has a tie-up with them.
I guess that's what keeps them in business, people with no choice :-)
brahmma wrote:
Moreover, can someone tell me if the AMD processor that it has will be good?
I have all AMD, for non religious reasons They are just fine.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Christian Graus wrote:
My notebook is 64 bit and I run 32 bit windows on it, and write 32 bit apps on it.
No, I was asking if I were running 64 Bit Vista, will I be able to develop applications using 64 bit VS 2005 (if there is one such thing) that will execute on 32 Bit computers... Even when I feel that the answer must be an obvious yes, I asked to know if there were any other issues/info that I must be knowing. I agree that HP sucks to some extent but I will have to let it suck on me, knowingly. :sigh: When I suggested that I DELL is good and I shall go for it, they replied without hesitating: "You may go for it, but then you will have to pay. We can buy you a HP notebook only. We were asking you for the configuration that you will need, or a particlar model that you think is suitable for you. We're locked tied up with them and don't look outside HP." Two issues are eating my mind: 1. The screen size is 12.1 inches, which is way too small. 2. It is a 64 bit PC and we are still into the 32 bit era. I will have to write applications for both. What is good about the tablet is it looks ultra cool :-> and has got 2gigs of RAM, and the processor is a dual core processor, which you've said will be good and so I'm happy. One more question. The PC comes with Windows vista home premium. Is there a glitch about it? Will it serve me well for my software development needs? I am afraid it should not poop up a message "You need to upgrade to Premium Business Ultimate blah blah to do this" or something like that when I click open VS.
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Christian Graus wrote:
My notebook is 64 bit and I run 32 bit windows on it, and write 32 bit apps on it.
No, I was asking if I were running 64 Bit Vista, will I be able to develop applications using 64 bit VS 2005 (if there is one such thing) that will execute on 32 Bit computers... Even when I feel that the answer must be an obvious yes, I asked to know if there were any other issues/info that I must be knowing. I agree that HP sucks to some extent but I will have to let it suck on me, knowingly. :sigh: When I suggested that I DELL is good and I shall go for it, they replied without hesitating: "You may go for it, but then you will have to pay. We can buy you a HP notebook only. We were asking you for the configuration that you will need, or a particlar model that you think is suitable for you. We're locked tied up with them and don't look outside HP." Two issues are eating my mind: 1. The screen size is 12.1 inches, which is way too small. 2. It is a 64 bit PC and we are still into the 32 bit era. I will have to write applications for both. What is good about the tablet is it looks ultra cool :-> and has got 2gigs of RAM, and the processor is a dual core processor, which you've said will be good and so I'm happy. One more question. The PC comes with Windows vista home premium. Is there a glitch about it? Will it serve me well for my software development needs? I am afraid it should not poop up a message "You need to upgrade to Premium Business Ultimate blah blah to do this" or something like that when I click open VS.
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brahmma wrote:
The PC comes with Windows vista home premium. Is there a glitch about it? Will it serve me well for my software development needs?
IIRC, you cannot run IIS on Vista home. I could be wrong.... Apart from that: 1. Your budget is awesome. :cool: 2. I think it's unfair and ridiculous that laptop prices in India are so high. :mad: 3. 12 inches is way too small for poring over code. X|
Cheers, Vıkram.
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brahmma wrote:
The PC comes with Windows vista home premium. Is there a glitch about it? Will it serve me well for my software development needs?
IIRC, you cannot run IIS on Vista home. I could be wrong.... Apart from that: 1. Your budget is awesome. :cool: 2. I think it's unfair and ridiculous that laptop prices in India are so high. :mad: 3. 12 inches is way too small for poring over code. X|
Cheers, Vıkram.
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byalmightybobVikram A Punathambekar wrote:
IIRC, you cannot run IIS on Vista home. I could be wrong....
I don't use IIRC, but anway if it is too restrictive then I can upgrade it to something like "PREMIUM EXECUTIVE EXTREME ULTIMATE" or some utter crap like that, whatever they call it. I've left a note on this issue to the management, already.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
3. 12 inches is way too small for poring over code.
Actually, I won't be doing too much of coding in it, since I will do most of the development part on my office desktop only. But it might happen that I may have to do the same on the notebook too (while I am roaming). That's why I wanted to make it sure that the notebook (and the OS) will lend me a hand when I need it.
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero
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Christian Graus wrote:
Mine was/is the most crash prone and poorly put together notebook I have ever owned.
Poorly put together? Really? I've never heard anyone say that about HP. I'm surprised. For me, Dell is/was a nightmare. The hardware is reasonable, but the customer service may as well not even exist. Basically I bought my Dell and the company could have ceased to exist and I would have had the same level of technical support as I do now. I've posted here before about how I tried contacting them about 5 different times and not once did I receive a reply or response. Unless I hear differently about their level of customer service I won't be buying from them again despite the fact that I like their computers. I hope they read this.
"The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduce them. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim." -Gustave Le Bon
Funny, Dell rocks for me, precisely because the support is good, if you accept they know nothing about computers to start with. They are quick to send out replacement parts, you jsut need to diagnose the problem yourself.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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I am looking at hp Pavilion tx1016AU[^], which is a 64 bit tablet pc. It looks like a good buy, but I have a few questions. This one being a 64 bit computer, will I be able to write applications for 32 bit computers sitting on it? I guess there has to be a setting in VS wherein I can specify if I need my app to run on 32 or 64 bit. I have never worked with 64 bit computers and so I do not know this for sure. Is there anything else that you think is bad about this notebook? I cannot think outside HP since my company has a tie-up with them. Moreover, can someone tell me if the AMD processor that it has will be good? :~ Is there an HP alternative that you would suggest? My budget is 85000 INR. Thank you very much.
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero
Looks like nobody has answered you about this...
brahmma wrote:
will I be able to write applications for 32 bit computers sitting on it?
Four years ago I bought a motherboard with 64-bit AMD Athlon64 3200+ and installed Windows Longhorn 64-bit version (pre-Vista) for some project. I installed WinZip 32-bit and Microsoft Visual Studio 6 on this 64-bit system. It was interesting! As we known that we would normally have such a folder "
C:\Program Files\WinZip\"... I saw two folders underC:\"C:\Program Files\" and "C:\Program Files 32-bit\" WinZip was located at "C:\Program Files 32-bit\WinZip\", and it worked well to unzip files.
Maxwell Chen
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My notebook is 64 bit and I run 32 bit windows on it, and write 32 bit apps on it.
brahmma wrote:
Is there anything else that you think is bad about this notebook?
Yes, HP sucks.
brahmma wrote:
I cannot think outside HP since my company has a tie-up with them.
I guess that's what keeps them in business, people with no choice :-)
brahmma wrote:
Moreover, can someone tell me if the AMD processor that it has will be good?
I have all AMD, for non religious reasons They are just fine.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Christian Graus wrote:
Yes, HP sucks.
HP seems to be sleek and light-weighted. It is charming and really fast too at least for me. :)
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Looks like nobody has answered you about this...
brahmma wrote:
will I be able to write applications for 32 bit computers sitting on it?
Four years ago I bought a motherboard with 64-bit AMD Athlon64 3200+ and installed Windows Longhorn 64-bit version (pre-Vista) for some project. I installed WinZip 32-bit and Microsoft Visual Studio 6 on this 64-bit system. It was interesting! As we known that we would normally have such a folder "
C:\Program Files\WinZip\"... I saw two folders underC:\"C:\Program Files\" and "C:\Program Files 32-bit\" WinZip was located at "C:\Program Files 32-bit\WinZip\", and it worked well to unzip files.
Maxwell Chen
Maxwell Chen wrote:
Four years ago I bought a motherboard with 64-bit AMD Athlon64 3200+ and installed Windows Longhorn 64-bit version (pre-Vista) for some project. I installed WinZip 32-bit and Microsoft Visual Studio 6 on this 64-bit system.
Thanks. What I understand from your reply is: "Yes, we can write applications which would run on 32 bit applications, sitting on a 64 bit OS" I got it right?
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32-bit applications will not normally run on 64-bit OS unless there is an emulation. I do no know if 64-32 bit emulation is built into XP/Vista. Normally, you go for 64 bit OS/CPU when you know what you are really doing! Best regards, Paul.
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x86-64 CPUs are able to run both 32- and 64-bit code natively, without emulation. In fact, unless your applications do many number-crunching, performance is usually the same for both applications.
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32-bit applications will not normally run on 64-bit OS unless there is an emulation. I do no know if 64-32 bit emulation is built into XP/Vista. Normally, you go for 64 bit OS/CPU when you know what you are really doing! Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
Paul, sorry, you're wrong on this - the AMD/Intel 'x64' processors run 32-bit code natively even on a 64-bit operating system. The problem with that is that there are still relatively few drivers for the 64-bit OS, although all the hardware in the system will have drivers. You may be confused with the older Itanium IA-64 architecture, which does have 32-bit x86 compatibility in hardware, but the implementation was so poor that later versions of the Itanium version of Windows include a software emulator that JIT-compiles to native Itanium code. There are of course other 64-bit processor families such as Sun Sparc, MIPS, Alpha, PowerPC, and you're right that these do not execute x86 code natively and require emulation. However, they don't run Windows natively either.
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Mine was/is the most crash prone and poorly put together notebook I have ever owned.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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I am looking at hp Pavilion tx1016AU[^], which is a 64 bit tablet pc. It looks like a good buy, but I have a few questions. This one being a 64 bit computer, will I be able to write applications for 32 bit computers sitting on it? I guess there has to be a setting in VS wherein I can specify if I need my app to run on 32 or 64 bit. I have never worked with 64 bit computers and so I do not know this for sure. Is there anything else that you think is bad about this notebook? I cannot think outside HP since my company has a tie-up with them. Moreover, can someone tell me if the AMD processor that it has will be good? :~ Is there an HP alternative that you would suggest? My budget is 85000 INR. Thank you very much.
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero
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brahmma wrote:
hp
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brahmma wrote:
hp Pavilion
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Christian Graus wrote:
Yes, HP sucks.
HP seems to be sleek and light-weighted. It is charming and really fast too at least for me. :)
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Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:
HP seems to be sleek and light-weighted.
So true. This particular model is under 2 Kilos. It has killer looks :cool:
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero