I got to get this off my chest....
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Let me start by saying that I truly hope this doesn't offend anyone, or step on anyone's toes but I have to get this off my chest and vent. I have worked for this company for a little over 2 years now, and in my opinion it's the best company I've worked for as far as taking care of their development team and IT Department, when we ask for new hardware or software 90% of the time we get it, and in a timely fasion. I know tons of developers who would love to work in my work environment. Now rewind 6 months, the VP of IT at that time, a brilliant man, great to work for, resigned and moved onto greener pastures (well maybe it was 8 or 9 months, I'm not counting). The company then brings in a new VP of IT (from an "unnamed" company, a very large company). Said new VP looks around, assesses the situation, then decides to major changes with the way the company/depart operate. Now granted change can be good, most of the time it can lead to greater things for the company, but other times, such as when said person decides to make said changes without talking it over with the department, development team, or anyone else involved in making said changes. Changes such as, completely changing platforms that the company web presence runs on, a platform that no one on the Development Team even knows, so he wants to outsource the work (yeah thats it, take work away from the very people who have kept this company running for 50 years). Then he wants to move all data off-site. Now I know lots of companies employ co-locating servers, but wouldn't it be a good idea to give some kind of advance notice, so we can have time to, oh I don't know, find where things are going to break with the new replication scheme , when replicating, we have web data, and in-house application data, instead of adding a field to all tables dictating where the data is coming from, ie; "Web" or "In-House" they have decided to make web data primary keys be negative numbers and in-house keys be positive numbers. I can think of tons of ways this will impact/break both web and in-house software. Now granted, I very well may be blowing this out of proportion, but this just doesn't seem right to me. If he wants to change platforms then give the developers advanced notice, provide some training on said platform, and set a launch date far enough in the future to make is feasible, not a date that makes it impossible to so anything but to outsource the work. Moving database servers off-site is a fair move, but think it through thoroughly and find the places it can brea
Time to look for a new job. :doh:
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peterchen wrote: a place where people are still allowed to enjoy their day job Those places actually exist?
Surprisingly enough yes. :->
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Let me start by saying that I truly hope this doesn't offend anyone, or step on anyone's toes but I have to get this off my chest and vent. I have worked for this company for a little over 2 years now, and in my opinion it's the best company I've worked for as far as taking care of their development team and IT Department, when we ask for new hardware or software 90% of the time we get it, and in a timely fasion. I know tons of developers who would love to work in my work environment. Now rewind 6 months, the VP of IT at that time, a brilliant man, great to work for, resigned and moved onto greener pastures (well maybe it was 8 or 9 months, I'm not counting). The company then brings in a new VP of IT (from an "unnamed" company, a very large company). Said new VP looks around, assesses the situation, then decides to major changes with the way the company/depart operate. Now granted change can be good, most of the time it can lead to greater things for the company, but other times, such as when said person decides to make said changes without talking it over with the department, development team, or anyone else involved in making said changes. Changes such as, completely changing platforms that the company web presence runs on, a platform that no one on the Development Team even knows, so he wants to outsource the work (yeah thats it, take work away from the very people who have kept this company running for 50 years). Then he wants to move all data off-site. Now I know lots of companies employ co-locating servers, but wouldn't it be a good idea to give some kind of advance notice, so we can have time to, oh I don't know, find where things are going to break with the new replication scheme , when replicating, we have web data, and in-house application data, instead of adding a field to all tables dictating where the data is coming from, ie; "Web" or "In-House" they have decided to make web data primary keys be negative numbers and in-house keys be positive numbers. I can think of tons of ways this will impact/break both web and in-house software. Now granted, I very well may be blowing this out of proportion, but this just doesn't seem right to me. If he wants to change platforms then give the developers advanced notice, provide some training on said platform, and set a launch date far enough in the future to make is feasible, not a date that makes it impossible to so anything but to outsource the work. Moving database servers off-site is a fair move, but think it through thoroughly and find the places it can brea
I was in that situation not too long ago. Noone at the top got replaced, but after Gartner, twice, said that our IT department was doing more for 1/3 the cost and half the people than anyone else they surveyed, they decided to take one of the best IT departments in the country and utterly destroy it. HUGE cuts and reorg's abounded. I watched as lots of very hard working people, who poored their hearts into the work for the company, got screwed, laid off, thrown into jobs they had no experience with and told to "sink or swim". Morale plummeted farther anyone could have ever imagined! No raises, no merit, not even performance reviews. Nothing! People with CS degrees couldn't find jobs in the crap economy here and ended up handling baggage at the major airport. The entire Help Desk got shipped off to India at the end of last year. Response times for problems are so high it's embarrasing. To this day, they're STILL reorg'ing, for, I think, the 5th time in as many years. Though I still know some people that have survived there, there's nothing left of the IT department I used to work for. I wonder what Gartner would say about the place now...
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jorgening wrote:
Just remember, "...outsourcing is good for the economy
Well i Don't feel outsourcing is good for my economy. We have more talented people than I've ever worked with. The problem is they brought someone in who wants to change the platform for no apparent reason. I've researched the platform he wants our web presence on, and it seems very suitable for our internal Intranet, for the IT Project system, for the IT Team System but not really for all of our websites. And he chose a platform he knew beforehand no one there had ever worked with, so why would someone do that?
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Psycho-*Coder*-Extreme wrote:
it seems very suitable for our internal Intranet, for the IT Project system
Let me guess ... MS SharePoint? ;) Is must be some kind of disease. I know a manager, too, who wants to run everything on SharePoint. He's not able to explain why we are not allowed to use an appropriate CMS.
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I was in that situation not too long ago. Noone at the top got replaced, but after Gartner, twice, said that our IT department was doing more for 1/3 the cost and half the people than anyone else they surveyed, they decided to take one of the best IT departments in the country and utterly destroy it. HUGE cuts and reorg's abounded. I watched as lots of very hard working people, who poored their hearts into the work for the company, got screwed, laid off, thrown into jobs they had no experience with and told to "sink or swim". Morale plummeted farther anyone could have ever imagined! No raises, no merit, not even performance reviews. Nothing! People with CS degrees couldn't find jobs in the crap economy here and ended up handling baggage at the major airport. The entire Help Desk got shipped off to India at the end of last year. Response times for problems are so high it's embarrasing. To this day, they're STILL reorg'ing, for, I think, the 5th time in as many years. Though I still know some people that have survived there, there's nothing left of the IT department I used to work for. I wonder what Gartner would say about the place now...
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2006, 2007Gartner couldn't explain how to tie shoelaces, much less forecast anything relevant about IT. Bunch of idiots, bar none.
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Psycho-*Coder*-Extreme wrote:
What he is doing is sucking the life out of the wonderful people I work with (and myself). It is making the entire development team feel unappreciated and like we are disposable (and maybe we truly are, I hope not though).
Eh, it happens. The trick, i think, is learning to not care.
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Shog9 wrote:
learning to not care.
Yeah. I've felt much better since I gave up hope.:-D
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Gartner couldn't explain how to tie shoelaces, much less forecast anything relevant about IT. Bunch of idiots, bar none.
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog
True, but since it's the only "metric" they ever used to gauge performance against other IT shops, you have to compare the apples from the last survey to the apples of the new survey, from the same source of apples.
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Gartner couldn't explain how to tie shoelaces, much less forecast anything relevant about IT. Bunch of idiots, bar none.
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog