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  • M Martin Marvinski

    Anders Molin wrote: Yea, that's a sure way to world peace As long as those missles don't come here, I could care less what is happening around the world. The same with terrrorism. After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.

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    Then you are not worth spending time talking too X| - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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      Anders Molin wrote: Then you are not worth spending time talking too Its taken you a while to realize that Anders, Everyone else worked that out ages ago. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

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      More about me :-)

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      hehe ;P - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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      • M Martin Marvinski

        It's on the news that the United States State Department is advising that all US citizens and personel leave India and Pakistan immediatly. This looks really bad, because when the US is starting to pull out all non essential personnel it means war is very close.:( I hope it can be avoided, but now it looks like we've passed the point of no return. Are you residents of India doing anything to protect yourselves like building bomb shelters? I am so glad the US is building Missle defence. After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.

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        Martin Marvinski wrote: Are you residents of India doing anything to protect yourselves like building bomb shelters? I am so glad the US is building Missle defence. Yeah. Bomb shelters. That'll help. Personally, if I lived in India, I would leave in a hurry. Nish, are you listening ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002

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          Anders Molin wrote: Then you are not worth spending time talking too Its taken you a while to realize that Anders, Everyone else worked that out ages ago. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies

          Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

          More about me :-)

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          Martin Marvinski
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          :(( After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.

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          • T Tomasz Sowinski

            Christian Graus wrote: Personally, if I lived in India, I would leave in a hurry. Leave and go where? Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com

            - It's for protection
            - Protection from what? Zee Germans?

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            Martin Marvinski
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            Tomasz Sowinski wrote: Leave and go where? Anywhere but India and Pakistan After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.

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              Martin Marvinski wrote: Are you residents of India doing anything to protect yourselves like building bomb shelters? I am so glad the US is building Missle defence. Yeah. Bomb shelters. That'll help. Personally, if I lived in India, I would leave in a hurry. Nish, are you listening ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002

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              Tomasz Sowinski
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              Christian Graus wrote: Personally, if I lived in India, I would leave in a hurry. Leave and go where? Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com

              - It's for protection
              - Protection from what? Zee Germans?

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              • M Martin Marvinski

                It's on the news that the United States State Department is advising that all US citizens and personel leave India and Pakistan immediatly. This looks really bad, because when the US is starting to pull out all non essential personnel it means war is very close.:( I hope it can be avoided, but now it looks like we've passed the point of no return. Are you residents of India doing anything to protect yourselves like building bomb shelters? I am so glad the US is building Missle defence. After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.

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                Robert Vista
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                Why does the news media(CNN) always assume that nukes will be used immediately in this conflict? If they are right, predictions indicate 11-17 million will perish. This is a very sad day indeed.... Best wishes to our virtual community in this region.

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                • A Anders Molin

                  Then you are not worth spending time talking too X| - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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                  Martin Marvinski
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                  Anders Molin wrote: Then you are not worth spending time talking too The US missle shield will protect North America and Europe where the majority of the sensible people live who value human life. Al Quada, the Suadis, and the majority of the middle east are very barbaric and don't give a damn about life. Because of this, they wouldn't hesitate to use weapons of mass destruction against us or themselves. Look at Iraq, they used chemical and biological weapons against it's own people. When those countries are finally sick of being barbarians and the world's hoodlums we will happily lend a hand. After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.

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                  • T Tomasz Sowinski

                    Martin Marvinski wrote: Anywhere but India and Pakistan This may be quite difficult for the majority of population... Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com

                    - It's for protection
                    - Protection from what? Zee Germans?

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                    Martin Marvinski
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                    Tomasz Sowinski wrote: This may be quite difficult for the majority of population Then the people of democratic India should call their elected leaders and tell them to stand down. They should tell them to give up kashmir also. After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.

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                    • M Martin Marvinski

                      Tomasz Sowinski wrote: Leave and go where? Anywhere but India and Pakistan After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.

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                      Tomasz Sowinski
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                      Martin Marvinski wrote: Anywhere but India and Pakistan This may be quite difficult for the majority of population... Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com

                      - It's for protection
                      - Protection from what? Zee Germans?

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                      • R Robert Vista

                        Why does the news media(CNN) always assume that nukes will be used immediately in this conflict? If they are right, predictions indicate 11-17 million will perish. This is a very sad day indeed.... Best wishes to our virtual community in this region.

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                        Nemanja Trifunovic
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                        Actually, Pakistan's rocket missiles are not capable of carrying nuclear heads (at least not the ones that Pakistan has in its arsenal). I don't believe there will be a nuclear war. I vote pro drink :beer:

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                          Why does the news media(CNN) always assume that nukes will be used immediately in this conflict? If they are right, predictions indicate 11-17 million will perish. This is a very sad day indeed.... Best wishes to our virtual community in this region.

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                          Tomasz Sowinski
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                          Robert Vista wrote: Why does the news media(CNN) always assume that nukes will be used immediately in this conflict? Because it makes great headlines. Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com

                          - It's for protection
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                            Why does the news media(CNN) always assume that nukes will be used immediately in this conflict? If they are right, predictions indicate 11-17 million will perish. This is a very sad day indeed.... Best wishes to our virtual community in this region.

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                            Christian Graus
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                            Because at least one side has said they will use them. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002

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                            • M Martin Marvinski

                              Tomasz Sowinski wrote: This may be quite difficult for the majority of population Then the people of democratic India should call their elected leaders and tell them to stand down. They should tell them to give up kashmir also. After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.

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                              Martin Marvinski wrote: They should tell them to give up kashmir also. ROTFL Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com

                              - It's for protection
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                                Why does the news media(CNN) always assume that nukes will be used immediately in this conflict? If they are right, predictions indicate 11-17 million will perish. This is a very sad day indeed.... Best wishes to our virtual community in this region.

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                                Klaus Probst
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                                The temptation to use nukes is inversely proportional to how well you are doing in the conventional mode of a war. Since Pakistan would never win a conventional war against India, it follows that they would be the first to use them. India would then retaliate in kind, of course. Personally, I think they should get on with it and blow themselves to bits. India and Pakistan having nuclear weapons is a bit like giving guns to retarded children. None of them have the infrastructure or command/control know-how to effectively maintain them as a deterrent (as the US/NATO and the Soviet Bloc did during the cold war). Of course I wouldn't want to be Indian or Pakistani if that happens, but hey. They felt good about having their dangerous toys, they're fighting over a worthless piece of land and they feel they can play in the big leagues. I think they'll find out it takes more than just big armies and big guns to be truly big countries. ___________ Klaus [www.vbbox.com]

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                                  Gotta airlift Nish, Ravi, and all the other CPians who reside in India then. I don't think we have any people in Pakistan...but I could be wrong. David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
                                  MEEKNESS, n. Uncommon patience in planning a revenge that is worth while. The Devil's Dictionary, Ambrose Bierce

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                                  Martin Marvinski
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                                  David Stone wrote: Gotta airlift Nish, Ravi, and all the other CPians who reside in India then. I don't think we have any people in Pakistan Ravi lives in Massachusetts, USA. Nish lives in Trivadarum which is probably not a significant target. After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.

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                                    The temptation to use nukes is inversely proportional to how well you are doing in the conventional mode of a war. Since Pakistan would never win a conventional war against India, it follows that they would be the first to use them. India would then retaliate in kind, of course. Personally, I think they should get on with it and blow themselves to bits. India and Pakistan having nuclear weapons is a bit like giving guns to retarded children. None of them have the infrastructure or command/control know-how to effectively maintain them as a deterrent (as the US/NATO and the Soviet Bloc did during the cold war). Of course I wouldn't want to be Indian or Pakistani if that happens, but hey. They felt good about having their dangerous toys, they're fighting over a worthless piece of land and they feel they can play in the big leagues. I think they'll find out it takes more than just big armies and big guns to be truly big countries. ___________ Klaus [www.vbbox.com]

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                                    Gotta airlift Nish, Ravi, and all the other CPians who reside in India then. I don't think we have any people in Pakistan...but I could be wrong. David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
                                    MEEKNESS, n. Uncommon patience in planning a revenge that is worth while. The Devil's Dictionary, Ambrose Bierce

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                                      Martin Marvinski wrote: Are you residents of India doing anything to protect yourselves like building bomb shelters? I am so glad the US is building Missle defence. Yeah. Bomb shelters. That'll help. Personally, if I lived in India, I would leave in a hurry. Nish, are you listening ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002

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                                      Are you residents of India doing anything to protect yourselves like building bomb shelters? I am so glad the US is building Missle defence. Yeah. Bomb shelters. That'll help. Actually, bomb shelters would help if you are on the outskirts of a bombed city. Particularly because Pakistani and Indian nuclear weapons are not terribly powerful (read: they have a low explosive yield - in contrast to Russian and US nuclear weapons which can be far more powerful). In one of India's recent tests, they detonated a 43-kiloton nuclear device. In contrast, Russia detonated a 58 megaton device in 1961. Of course, with the proximity of the two countries, you won't be able to get to your bomb shelter unless you are already at home. It only takes five minutes for a missle to reach an Indian/Pakistani city. If you're not already at home, you'll never get there because the steets will immediately be filled with people.

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                                      • M Martin Marvinski

                                        It's on the news that the United States State Department is advising that all US citizens and personel leave India and Pakistan immediatly. This looks really bad, because when the US is starting to pull out all non essential personnel it means war is very close.:( I hope it can be avoided, but now it looks like we've passed the point of no return. Are you residents of India doing anything to protect yourselves like building bomb shelters? I am so glad the US is building Missle defence. After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.

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                                        Hmmm, First the Buddhist statues in Afghanistan, if Pakistan drops a nuke on India, I wonder how many more Buddhist monuments will get hit? I was listening to a travller on the radio this evening, who had camped nearby the monuments in Afghanistan, and said how peaceful that part of the world was, and he couldn't beleive that some had blown those enormous statues up, for a misinterpretation of a 1400 year old script, and of course the statues predate the script in the first place. Disclaimer: Yes I'm concerned about people dying, etc. No one ever talks about the historical monuments that are here today, Taliban'd tomorrow. Oh well. Sigh, was wonderful walking around the green fens this evening. Its a depressing thought that more people may be going to war. Stephen Kellett -- Memory Validator. Faster Leak Detection, Better Analysis. http://www.softwareverify.com http://www.objmedia.demon.co.uk

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                                          The temptation to use nukes is inversely proportional to how well you are doing in the conventional mode of a war. Since Pakistan would never win a conventional war against India, it follows that they would be the first to use them. India would then retaliate in kind, of course. Personally, I think they should get on with it and blow themselves to bits. India and Pakistan having nuclear weapons is a bit like giving guns to retarded children. None of them have the infrastructure or command/control know-how to effectively maintain them as a deterrent (as the US/NATO and the Soviet Bloc did during the cold war). Of course I wouldn't want to be Indian or Pakistani if that happens, but hey. They felt good about having their dangerous toys, they're fighting over a worthless piece of land and they feel they can play in the big leagues. I think they'll find out it takes more than just big armies and big guns to be truly big countries. ___________ Klaus [www.vbbox.com]

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                                          Klaus Probst wrote: None of them have the infrastructure or command/control know-how to effectively maintain them as a deterrent (as the US/NATO and the Soviet Bloc did during the cold war). ...they're fighting over a worthless piece of land and they feel they can play in the big leagues. I think they'll find out it takes more than just big armies and big guns to be truly big countries. Thats quite an interesting take on the situation, shame the media don't report like that. Why is Kashmir worthless? Does it have no strategic value, no mineral deposits, or religious significance, or something else? Is it really a straight land grab battle? I'd always assumed there must be something more to it than that. Most people need a reason to fight and die, just saying 'this is ours', usually is not enough (which is why Britain, France, Russia, and others lost in Afghanistan). Cheers Stephen Kellett -- Memory Validator. Faster Leak Detection, Better Analysis. http://www.softwareverify.com http://www.objmedia.demon.co.uk

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