All US Citizens: Get out of India.
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Klaus Probst wrote: None of them have the infrastructure or command/control know-how to effectively maintain them as a deterrent (as the US/NATO and the Soviet Bloc did during the cold war). ...they're fighting over a worthless piece of land and they feel they can play in the big leagues. I think they'll find out it takes more than just big armies and big guns to be truly big countries. Thats quite an interesting take on the situation, shame the media don't report like that. Why is Kashmir worthless? Does it have no strategic value, no mineral deposits, or religious significance, or something else? Is it really a straight land grab battle? I'd always assumed there must be something more to it than that. Most people need a reason to fight and die, just saying 'this is ours', usually is not enough (which is why Britain, France, Russia, and others lost in Afghanistan). Cheers Stephen Kellett -- Memory Validator. Faster Leak Detection, Better Analysis. http://www.softwareverify.com http://www.objmedia.demon.co.uk
Stephen Kellett wrote: Thats quite an interesting take on the situation, shame the media don't report like that. Why is Kashmir worthless? Does it have no strategic value, no mineral deposits, or religious significance, or something else? Is it really a straight land grab battle? I suppose it has a certain amount of strategic value. I doubt that one could think its worth was more or less based on any religious considerations though. I'm not sure about minerals or natural wealth, but I doubt it since it is in an area which doesn't have much to begin with. I do know it's (or used to be) very beautiful. I think the legend of Shangri-La was based on a place in Kashmir. Stephen Kellett wrote: I'd always assumed there must be something more to it than that. Most people need a reason to fight and die, just saying 'this is ours', usually is not enough (which is why Britain, France, Russia, and others lost in Afghanistan). Oh, but they don't. That's the problem ;) At this point I think they've forgotten about why they started fighting over it and the shole situation is just about stupid nationalistic pride, as most of these things are. FWIW, I think Pakistan has a more legitimate claim over Kashmir given that the entire population is Muslim. But then again, maybe the Kashmiris (sp?) themselves hold no love for either of them and just want to be independent. Whatever it happens to be, I kinda think it's stupid to consider that anything is worth 17-24 million human lives. ___________ Klaus [www.vbbox.com]
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Gotta airlift Nish, Ravi, and all the other CPians who reside in India then. I don't think we have any people in Pakistan...but I could be wrong. David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
MEEKNESS, n. Uncommon patience in planning a revenge that is worth while. The Devil's Dictionary, Ambrose BierceDavid Stone wrote: Ravi, and all the other CPians who reside in India then I'm pretty sure Ravi lives in Boston :) David http://www.dundas.com
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David Stone wrote: Ravi, and all the other CPians who reside in India then I'm pretty sure Ravi lives in Boston :) David http://www.dundas.com
Meaning we should still try and airlift him to safety anyway? ;) cheers, Chris Maunder
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Martin Marvinski wrote: This looks really bad, because when the US is starting to pull out all non essential personnel it means war is very close. Well, to be honest, the americans are a bit, err..., hysterical about a lot of things. They are also the first country to pull out it's people. Let's wait a bit and see, there might not be a war after all... Martin Marvinski wrote: I am so glad the US is building Missle defence. Yea, that's a sure way to world peace X| - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Anders Molin wrote: They are also the first country to pull out it's people. Kiwis were the first
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It's on the news that the United States State Department is advising that all US citizens and personel leave India and Pakistan immediatly. This looks really bad, because when the US is starting to pull out all non essential personnel it means war is very close.:( I hope it can be avoided, but now it looks like we've passed the point of no return. Are you residents of India doing anything to protect yourselves like building bomb shelters? I am so glad the US is building Missle defence. After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.
I talked to my friends and parents and people are extremely relaxed in India. They are so used to these wars of words between India and Pakistan so they don't think there would be a war in the first place. If there is a war they don't expect anyone to use nukes. But who knows what will happen. My personal opinion there is going to be a war may be a small scale after Rumsfield leaves.
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Martin Marvinski wrote: I could care less what is happening around the world. The same with terrrorism. I too used to think like that, until I realized that we're not a bunch of countries but a single planet. /ravi "There is always one more bug..." http://www.ravib.com ravib@ravib.com
Ravi Bhavnani wrote: we're not a bunch of countries but a single planet. :rose::rose::rose: That's the best thing I've seen in a long time Ravi! Nish :rose:
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
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Martin, an India vs Pakistan war isn't going to end life on the planet currently. But this same conflict in 20 yrs time would leave a large amount of radiation left over. Making life harsh for those left living. Eventually India and Pakistan are going to have a MAD scenario and the US's missile defence isn't going to be worth a darn to protect you from fallout. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Colin Davies wrote: the US's missile defence isn't going to be worth a darn to protect you from fallout. A lot of people think nuclear war is a 30 minute affair. They don't realize it's actually a 500 year affair! Nish
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
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Martin Marvinski wrote: This looks really bad, because when the US is starting to pull out all non essential personnel it means war is very close. Well, to be honest, the americans are a bit, err..., hysterical about a lot of things. They are also the first country to pull out it's people. Let's wait a bit and see, there might not be a war after all... Martin Marvinski wrote: I am so glad the US is building Missle defence. Yea, that's a sure way to world peace X| - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"
Anders Molin wrote: Yea, that's a sure way to world peace I fully agree Anders! Nish :-) p.s. Your sarcasm I mean!
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
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Anders Molin wrote: They are also the first country to pull out it's people. Kiwis were the first
Rama Krishna wrote: Kiwis were the first Poor Colin. He must be feeling really ashamed now. Nish
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
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Anders Molin wrote: Then you are not worth spending time talking too The US missle shield will protect North America and Europe where the majority of the sensible people live who value human life. Al Quada, the Suadis, and the majority of the middle east are very barbaric and don't give a damn about life. Because of this, they wouldn't hesitate to use weapons of mass destruction against us or themselves. Look at Iraq, they used chemical and biological weapons against it's own people. When those countries are finally sick of being barbarians and the world's hoodlums we will happily lend a hand. After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.
Martin Marvinski wrote: When those countries are finally sick of being barbarians and the world's hoodlums we will happily lend a hand Man, you would not have lasted 5 minutes alive outside the USA :-) Nish
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
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Martin Marvinski wrote: Are you residents of India doing anything to protect yourselves like building bomb shelters? I am so glad the US is building Missle defence. Yeah. Bomb shelters. That'll help. Personally, if I lived in India, I would leave in a hurry. Nish, are you listening ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
Christian Graus wrote: Nish, are you listening ? I am in the southern most tip! Nish
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
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Robert Vista wrote: Why does the news media(CNN) always assume that nukes will be used immediately in this conflict? Because it makes great headlines. Tomasz Sowinski -- http://www.shooltz.com
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- Protection from what? Zee Germans?Tomasz Sowinski wrote: Because it makes great headlines. That's usually the *only* reason too Nish
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
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Gotta airlift Nish, Ravi, and all the other CPians who reside in India then. I don't think we have any people in Pakistan...but I could be wrong. David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
MEEKNESS, n. Uncommon patience in planning a revenge that is worth while. The Devil's Dictionary, Ambrose BierceDavid Stone wrote: Gotta airlift Nish, Ravi, and all the other CPians who reside in India then Ravi lives in the USA :-) Nish
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
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Meaning we should still try and airlift him to safety anyway? ;) cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: Meaning we should still try and airlift him to safety anyway? Is Boston that bad? Nish
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
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David Stone wrote: Gotta airlift Nish, Ravi, and all the other CPians who reside in India then. I don't think we have any people in Pakistan Ravi lives in Massachusetts, USA. Nish lives in Trivadarum which is probably not a significant target. After a poor performance in London in 1899, Steinitz went insane and died a year later on August 12, 1900 at Wards Island, N.Y.
Martin Marvinski wrote: Nish lives in Trivadarum which is probably not a significant target. I hope so Martin, I sure hope so :-( Nish
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
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Colin Davies wrote: the US's missile defence isn't going to be worth a darn to protect you from fallout. A lot of people think nuclear war is a 30 minute affair. They don't realize it's actually a 500 year affair! Nish
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
This thread is getting confusing:confused:
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This thread is getting confusing:confused:
Rama Krishna wrote: This thread is getting confusing Part of the confusion is due to the CP thread errors where the wrong posts shgow under the wrong sub-threads Nish
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
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Stephen Kellett wrote: Thats quite an interesting take on the situation, shame the media don't report like that. Why is Kashmir worthless? Does it have no strategic value, no mineral deposits, or religious significance, or something else? Is it really a straight land grab battle? I suppose it has a certain amount of strategic value. I doubt that one could think its worth was more or less based on any religious considerations though. I'm not sure about minerals or natural wealth, but I doubt it since it is in an area which doesn't have much to begin with. I do know it's (or used to be) very beautiful. I think the legend of Shangri-La was based on a place in Kashmir. Stephen Kellett wrote: I'd always assumed there must be something more to it than that. Most people need a reason to fight and die, just saying 'this is ours', usually is not enough (which is why Britain, France, Russia, and others lost in Afghanistan). Oh, but they don't. That's the problem ;) At this point I think they've forgotten about why they started fighting over it and the shole situation is just about stupid nationalistic pride, as most of these things are. FWIW, I think Pakistan has a more legitimate claim over Kashmir given that the entire population is Muslim. But then again, maybe the Kashmiris (sp?) themselves hold no love for either of them and just want to be independent. Whatever it happens to be, I kinda think it's stupid to consider that anything is worth 17-24 million human lives. ___________ Klaus [www.vbbox.com]
Klaus Probst wrote: I think Pakistan has a more legitimate claim over Kashmir given that the entire population is Muslim. That is using one brush to paint several million people, as the people of Kashmir have never been polled for there opinion. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
More about me :-)
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Klaus Probst wrote: I think Pakistan has a more legitimate claim over Kashmir given that the entire population is Muslim. That is using one brush to paint several million people, as the people of Kashmir have never been polled for there opinion. Regardz Colin J Davies
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Colin Davies wrote: That is using one brush to paint several million people, as the people of Kashmir have never been polled for there opinion. Well, yes. That's why I said maybe they want to be independent. Who the heck knows. :confused: ___________ Klaus [www.vbbox.com]
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Chris Maunder wrote: Meaning we should still try and airlift him to safety anyway? Is Boston that bad? Nish
Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him.
Nish - Native CPian wrote: Is Boston that bad? With summer coming on its probably not to bad. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
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