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  • D Dario Solera

    It seems that only she (her?) is returning at this moment...

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    She's flying the Shuttle back solo?

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    • S Sathesh Sakthivel

      We have to Pray for all the members in the crew. Sorry for mentioning only her.

      Regards, Satips.:rose:

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      Back pedalling.

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      • S Sathesh Sakthivel

        As of now only She is returning now but the other two guys are staying there itself it seems. So only i said Especially Sunitha.

        Regards, Satips.:rose:

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        Sebastian Schneider
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        She will most definitely not be the only one onboard the shuttle. AFAIR, she is not qualified to land the shuttle.

        Cheers, Sebastian -- "If it was two men, the non-driver would have challenged the driver to simply crash through the gates. The macho image thing, you know." - Marc Clifton

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          They're not Indian, DUH!


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          Nish Nishant
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          CleaKO wrote:

          They're not Indian, DUH!

          Sunita is of Indian origin but she is a US citizen who was born in the States, grew up in the States, and is married to an American. She is Slovenian on her mother's side. So even her Indian-ness is 50% :-) I doubt if she'd call herself Indian (other than by origin). But in the States, if you start tracing origins, there are not going to be that many people who can say they are 100% of American origin.

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          • S Sathesh Sakthivel

            We have to Pray for all the Members in the Crew. But Especially Sunitha, Because we have already lost Kalpana from our Country.

            Regards, Satips.:rose:

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            If she's hot, I pray extra special for her safe return. Edit - Well, I googled her, and unless I see her naked (and she has exceptional qualities), she's on her own...

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            • N Nish Nishant

              CleaKO wrote:

              They're not Indian, DUH!

              Sunita is of Indian origin but she is a US citizen who was born in the States, grew up in the States, and is married to an American. She is Slovenian on her mother's side. So even her Indian-ness is 50% :-) I doubt if she'd call herself Indian (other than by origin). But in the States, if you start tracing origins, there are not going to be that many people who can say they are 100% of American origin.

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              Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

              Sunita is of Indian origin but she is a US citizen who was born in the States, grew up in the States, and is married to an American. She is Slovenian on her mother's side. So even her Indian-ness is 50%

              I was just stating the obviousness of Satips reasoning.

              Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

              But in the States, if you start tracing origins, there are not going to be that many people who can say they are 100% of American origin.

              This is true, if you were to call the Native Americans true Americans then hardly anyone here is of 100% American origin, why I am of Scottish/German/English/Native American origin.


              CleaKO

              "Now, a man would have opened both gates, driven through and not bothered to close either gate." - Marc Clifton (The Lounge)

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                We have to Pray for all the Members in the Crew. But Especially Sunitha, Because we have already lost Kalpana from our Country.

                Regards, Satips.:rose:

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                Let's all pray to the Flying Spaghetti Monster that he touch the space shuttle with His Noodly Appendage and grant them a safe return.

                The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams

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                • D Dario Solera

                  It seems that only she (her?) is returning at this moment...

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                  Dario Solera wrote:

                  It seems that only she (her?) is returning at this moment

                  only her, "of the ones Satips cares about." The full crew of the shuttle will most likely be returning, there is no finalized emergency plan to evac to the space-station. They could, but it would so over-burden oxygen and food (mostly oxygen and CO2 filters) that everyone could die anyhow. There are some emergency plans in place, but evac to minimal crew would take very careful planning and massive launches of cargo rockets as well as cooperation with another nation for the return of the evacuated crew -- since shuttles are all the USA has. Not impossible, but highly unlikely, especially given current international feelings toward the USA. That means a full, or nearly full shuttle will be returning, at some time. It has limited orbital capability and must come down eventually. It may mean that they land at Edwards, or White Sands Space Harbor, I haven't checked on the status of Edward's landing strip lately to know if there even is a choice. The primary reason for a change in return destination is the worst-case scenario, if there is a break up, they want it over the pacific. They cannot "wing it" on a glide-path from the west coast to the east coast. Entering atmosphere over New Mexico/Texas border means a similar break-up over highly populated Texas if the worst should happen.

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                    Back pedalling.

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                    All the Indian friends probably very familiar with the Indian Originated Sunita Williams. All the national news papers in India were highlighted Sunitha Willams. Thats y, Satips may take some extra care on her (I believe). Anyway we have to pray for all.

                    Regards, Jay :)

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                      Let's all pray to the Flying Spaghetti Monster that he touch the space shuttle with His Noodly Appendage and grant them a safe return.

                      The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams

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                      :rolleyes::~

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                      • H hairy_hats

                        She's flying the Shuttle back solo?

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                        NormDroid
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                        Looks like it according to satips the web bot.

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                        • E El Corazon

                          Dario Solera wrote:

                          It seems that only she (her?) is returning at this moment

                          only her, "of the ones Satips cares about." The full crew of the shuttle will most likely be returning, there is no finalized emergency plan to evac to the space-station. They could, but it would so over-burden oxygen and food (mostly oxygen and CO2 filters) that everyone could die anyhow. There are some emergency plans in place, but evac to minimal crew would take very careful planning and massive launches of cargo rockets as well as cooperation with another nation for the return of the evacuated crew -- since shuttles are all the USA has. Not impossible, but highly unlikely, especially given current international feelings toward the USA. That means a full, or nearly full shuttle will be returning, at some time. It has limited orbital capability and must come down eventually. It may mean that they land at Edwards, or White Sands Space Harbor, I haven't checked on the status of Edward's landing strip lately to know if there even is a choice. The primary reason for a change in return destination is the worst-case scenario, if there is a break up, they want it over the pacific. They cannot "wing it" on a glide-path from the west coast to the east coast. Entering atmosphere over New Mexico/Texas border means a similar break-up over highly populated Texas if the worst should happen.

                          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                          El Corazon wrote:

                          It may mean that they land at Edwards, or White Sands Space Harbor, I haven't checked on the status of Edward's landing strip lately to know if there even is a choice. The primary reason for a change in return destination is the worst-case scenario, if there is a break up, they want it over the pacific. They cannot "wing it" on a glide-path from the west coast to the east coast. Entering atmosphere over New Mexico/Texas border means a similar break-up over highly populated Texas if the worst should happen.

                          Jeez, you have been researching:omg:

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                            All the Indian friends probably very familiar with the Indian Originated Sunita Williams. All the national news papers in India were highlighted Sunitha Willams. Thats y, Satips may take some extra care on her (I believe). Anyway we have to pray for all.

                            Regards, Jay :)

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                            Sathesh Sakthivel
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                            Absolutely Jay. We have to Pray for all.

                            Regards, Satips.:rose:

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                              El Corazon wrote:

                              It may mean that they land at Edwards, or White Sands Space Harbor, I haven't checked on the status of Edward's landing strip lately to know if there even is a choice. The primary reason for a change in return destination is the worst-case scenario, if there is a break up, they want it over the pacific. They cannot "wing it" on a glide-path from the west coast to the east coast. Entering atmosphere over New Mexico/Texas border means a similar break-up over highly populated Texas if the worst should happen.

                              Jeez, you have been researching:omg:

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                              norm .net wrote:

                              Jeez, you have been researching

                              No, close to the subject. I was requested to do some of the modelling of the break-up of the last shuttle. My phone hasn't rung yet, though the news I just checked on is more optimistic than Satips. The tear is going to be repaired. There is concern, though not as much as before. They do carry some tiles for refitting in space (now), which is not easy since most of the tiles are unique in size and shape. They are drawing up plans, which NASA does nothing without double and triple checking for "best" solution. In the case of the last shuttle disaster, there was no choice, no emergency plans, nothing that could assist in time, the "best" plan was the only plan: return. Now there are additional choices, they are, as NASA is fond of putting, "Working the problem."

                              _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                Sunita is of Indian origin but she is a US citizen who was born in the States, grew up in the States, and is married to an American. She is Slovenian on her mother's side. So even her Indian-ness is 50%

                                I was just stating the obviousness of Satips reasoning.

                                Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                But in the States, if you start tracing origins, there are not going to be that many people who can say they are 100% of American origin.

                                This is true, if you were to call the Native Americans true Americans then hardly anyone here is of 100% American origin, why I am of Scottish/German/English/Native American origin.


                                CleaKO

                                "Now, a man would have opened both gates, driven through and not bothered to close either gate." - Marc Clifton (The Lounge)

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                                CleaKO wrote:

                                why I am of Scottish/German/English/Native American origin

                                Hienze 57 here.... I have a little of everything, including several tribes, though I am the only one in my family who doesn't find the presence of Native American ancestry an issue.

                                _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                  What an idiot. There are more members on the team other than Sunita. Pray for them all.

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                                  Wouldn't all the rest benefit from Sunitha's safe return?

                                  Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read

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                                  • S Sathesh Sakthivel

                                    Nasa on Tuesday decided to delay the return of Atlantis by two days amid concerns over some damage on the body of the space shuttle. A tear in the thermal blanket of the shuttle has caused apprehension among experts over the safe return of Indian-American astronaut Sunita Williams. Atlantis had suffered the four-inch tear during the liftoff on Friday. Clickety[^] We Pray god for Sunitha Williams Safe return. Since we have already Lost Kalpana Chawla.

                                    Regards, Satips.:rose:

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                                    Mission STS-117: Expedition 15/16 Flight Engineer Clayton C. Anderson, mission specialists James Reilly II, Steven Swanson, Commander Frederick Sturckow, Pilot Lee Archambault and mission specialists Patrick Forrester and John D. Olivas. Frederick Sturckow, a Marine colonel, will command STS-117. The mission will deliver the second and third starboard truss segments (S3/S4) and another pair of solar arrays to the space station. Pilot Lee Archambault, an Air Force colonel, joins Sturckow in the Shuttle’s cockpit. Mission specialists James Reilly II, Ph.D., Patrick Forrester, Steven Swanson, Ph.D., and John D. Olivas, Ph.D., round out the crew. STS-117 is the 21st shuttle mission to the International Space Station. Expedition 15 Flight Engineer Sunita L. Williams will return to Earth from the space station aboard shuttle mission STS-117. That flight will carry Expedition 15/16 Flight Engineer Clayton C. Anderson to the station. He will return home aboard Discovery on mission STS-120.

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                                      Wouldn't all the rest benefit from Sunitha's safe return?

                                      Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read

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                                      Gary Kirkham wrote:

                                      Wouldn't all the rest benefit from Sunitha's safe return?

                                      depends... theoretically, she could stay behind on the space station and wait for other transport, that means everyone else takes the risk instead of her.

                                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                        Gary Kirkham wrote:

                                        Wouldn't all the rest benefit from Sunitha's safe return?

                                        depends... theoretically, she could stay behind on the space station and wait for other transport, that means everyone else takes the risk instead of her.

                                        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                        As could they all.

                                        Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read

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                                          She will most definitely not be the only one onboard the shuttle. AFAIR, she is not qualified to land the shuttle.

                                          Cheers, Sebastian -- "If it was two men, the non-driver would have challenged the driver to simply crash through the gates. The macho image thing, you know." - Marc Clifton

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                                          El Corazon
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                                          Sebastian Schneider wrote:

                                          She will most definitely not be the only one onboard the shuttle. AFAIR, she is not qualified to land the shuttle.

                                          Correct. The shuttle is a seven man crew. One of the crew will remain on the space station, she will return. The other six will be the same crew as launched. Seven up, Seven down, unless they kick in an emergency plan, though the latter is extremely unlikely.

                                          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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