what to expect in Annual Review
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Hey guys, My review is coming up and i just wanted to make the best of the time when i have a chance to interact with my supervisor Any advice ?
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Hey guys, My review is coming up and i just wanted to make the best of the time when i have a chance to interact with my supervisor Any advice ?
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Hey guys, My review is coming up and i just wanted to make the best of the time when i have a chance to interact with my supervisor Any advice ?
This Dilbert expresses my experiences best I think: http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2007366590531.gif[^] :cool:
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Hey guys, My review is coming up and i just wanted to make the best of the time when i have a chance to interact with my supervisor Any advice ?
If you are on this site much than you should be good enough that the programming won't be a roadblock for your career. I would interact with your manager, and everyone else for that matter, in the nicest way possible. Just be amicable, agreeable and try to make people laugh. It is unfortunate but politics usually matter more than performance. To help the cause, in your review, ask your manager if her boss has any problems with team and if there is anything you can do help. Say to him, "if you're happy, I'm happy". Oh and accept any criticism and say that you will do your best to improve. Don't make excuses, managers hate that. Once you are having your review, your salary increase has probably already been determined so there's no point in arguing during the review.
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If you are on this site much than you should be good enough that the programming won't be a roadblock for your career. I would interact with your manager, and everyone else for that matter, in the nicest way possible. Just be amicable, agreeable and try to make people laugh. It is unfortunate but politics usually matter more than performance. To help the cause, in your review, ask your manager if her boss has any problems with team and if there is anything you can do help. Say to him, "if you're happy, I'm happy". Oh and accept any criticism and say that you will do your best to improve. Don't make excuses, managers hate that. Once you are having your review, your salary increase has probably already been determined so there's no point in arguing during the review.
ToddHileHoffer wrote:
Once you are having your review, your salary increase has probably already been determined so there's no point in arguing during the review.
:( thats so sad
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ToddHileHoffer wrote:
Once you are having your review, your salary increase has probably already been determined so there's no point in arguing during the review.
:( thats so sad
DeepWaters wrote:
thats so sad
but true. In our case, sometimes they have to scramble to get to talk to everyone before it shows up in your check. There are a couple of times over the last 16 years they missed and you got the surprise in your check before you got your review. As part of the review process the supervisor has to often submit his request for raises to upper management, who then forward it up as a per line item up to the higher level. They then either approve the total increase in wages, or reduce it and let the managers fight over who gives what to whome. In other cases, like here, there is a "raise pool" meaning it flows down from the top. The highest level of management determine the dollar figures for raises that period. Then the next level of managers discuss distribution with upper management, when that is decided it again flows down to the next lower level and reviews are compared for a median level raise, lower level raise or upper level raise, the net total must equal the pool for that division. This is why it doesn't do much good to argue the subject. Not to say you cannot, but recognize that if you do, it must go back through that process from bottom up for approval and it will take a while. The larger the company the slower the process. Once the raise-pool has been determined any changes in that has to come out of someone else's pay (laying off someone) or out of company profit. There is some margin in there, emergency hiring, or temp hiring, or loosing someone and overlapping for training, etc. But pulling from that margin means they can't use that margin for what it was intended for, so it is put into careful consideration and weighing the risks. Recognizing the process is more complicated than telling your supervisor, "I wish it were higher," is good for you and them. You are not the only employee, so the weight of the raise situation is weighed company wide not just for you.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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If you are on this site much than you should be good enough that the programming won't be a roadblock for your career. I would interact with your manager, and everyone else for that matter, in the nicest way possible. Just be amicable, agreeable and try to make people laugh. It is unfortunate but politics usually matter more than performance. To help the cause, in your review, ask your manager if her boss has any problems with team and if there is anything you can do help. Say to him, "if you're happy, I'm happy". Oh and accept any criticism and say that you will do your best to improve. Don't make excuses, managers hate that. Once you are having your review, your salary increase has probably already been determined so there's no point in arguing during the review.
This is good advice. Just getting along with people counts for a lot, judging from what I have seen of corporate performance reviews.
Best wishes, Hans
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If you are on this site much than you should be good enough that the programming won't be a roadblock for your career. I would interact with your manager, and everyone else for that matter, in the nicest way possible. Just be amicable, agreeable and try to make people laugh. It is unfortunate but politics usually matter more than performance. To help the cause, in your review, ask your manager if her boss has any problems with team and if there is anything you can do help. Say to him, "if you're happy, I'm happy". Oh and accept any criticism and say that you will do your best to improve. Don't make excuses, managers hate that. Once you are having your review, your salary increase has probably already been determined so there's no point in arguing during the review.
All very good points in your post.
ToddHileHoffer wrote:
Once you are having your review, your salary increase has probably already been determined so there's no point in arguing during the review.
However for this, it really depends. If you are underpaid compared to other works in your field and city, and you have been given all high marks, you should be prepared and go in with documentation to state your case, like reports from salary.com and such. I have seen this work a few times. The key things are to have the documentation that others are making more comparable to you, and you should use the vocabulary that your manager used to describe your good performance to justify the increase.
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If you are on this site much than you should be good enough that the programming won't be a roadblock for your career. I would interact with your manager, and everyone else for that matter, in the nicest way possible. Just be amicable, agreeable and try to make people laugh. It is unfortunate but politics usually matter more than performance. To help the cause, in your review, ask your manager if her boss has any problems with team and if there is anything you can do help. Say to him, "if you're happy, I'm happy". Oh and accept any criticism and say that you will do your best to improve. Don't make excuses, managers hate that. Once you are having your review, your salary increase has probably already been determined so there's no point in arguing during the review.
I got lucky, I recently had my yearly review (back in April I believe) and received a raise of $975 a month :->
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If you are on this site much than you should be good enough that the programming won't be a roadblock for your career. I would interact with your manager, and everyone else for that matter, in the nicest way possible. Just be amicable, agreeable and try to make people laugh. It is unfortunate but politics usually matter more than performance. To help the cause, in your review, ask your manager if her boss has any problems with team and if there is anything you can do help. Say to him, "if you're happy, I'm happy". Oh and accept any criticism and say that you will do your best to improve. Don't make excuses, managers hate that. Once you are having your review, your salary increase has probably already been determined so there's no point in arguing during the review.
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Hey guys, My review is coming up and i just wanted to make the best of the time when i have a chance to interact with my supervisor Any advice ?
Plan ahead, work out a few options.
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Hey guys, My review is coming up and i just wanted to make the best of the time when i have a chance to interact with my supervisor Any advice ?
If it's raise time; negotiate. Don't settle for just a few percent. :)
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This Dilbert expresses my experiences best I think: http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2007366590531.gif[^] :cool:
Yeah, exactly. CEO of company when I was recruited: "Annual reviews happen each year and we don't just give a few percentage increases if you've done well...employee X has had his salary tripled since he started work here..." ...A year later and lots of hard work done (and acknowledged)...company wide email asking everyone to submit the appropriate review forms to be processed. Which of course we do right away. 4-5 months later we're still waiting for our review...end result: Annoyed developers with less motivation to work hard because promises are broken. e.g. we now prefer a frag at the end of the day instead of working an extra hour like we used to. Oh well, at least I have a much better idea of the job market now (it's booming!), and will be using plenty of local examples as to what equivalent (or less) experienced developers are getting paid :D
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Hey guys, My review is coming up and i just wanted to make the best of the time when i have a chance to interact with my supervisor Any advice ?
Don't forget to tell him how much you enjoyed his wife's company.
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Yeah, exactly. CEO of company when I was recruited: "Annual reviews happen each year and we don't just give a few percentage increases if you've done well...employee X has had his salary tripled since he started work here..." ...A year later and lots of hard work done (and acknowledged)...company wide email asking everyone to submit the appropriate review forms to be processed. Which of course we do right away. 4-5 months later we're still waiting for our review...end result: Annoyed developers with less motivation to work hard because promises are broken. e.g. we now prefer a frag at the end of the day instead of working an extra hour like we used to. Oh well, at least I have a much better idea of the job market now (it's booming!), and will be using plenty of local examples as to what equivalent (or less) experienced developers are getting paid :D
si618 wrote:
...A year later and lots of hard work done (and acknowledged)...company wide email asking everyone to submit the appropriate review forms to be processed. Which of course we do right away. 4-5 months later we're still waiting for our review...end result: Annoyed developers with less motivation to work hard because promises are broken.
How very true of quite a few companies I know :-(
Never argue with an imbecile; they bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience.
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Don't forget to tell him how much you enjoyed his wife's company.
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I got lucky, I recently had my yearly review (back in April I believe) and received a raise of $975 a month :->
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si618 wrote:
...A year later and lots of hard work done (and acknowledged)...company wide email asking everyone to submit the appropriate review forms to be processed. Which of course we do right away. 4-5 months later we're still waiting for our review...end result: Annoyed developers with less motivation to work hard because promises are broken.
How very true of quite a few companies I know :-(
Never argue with an imbecile; they bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience.
No matter how good the company you work for is - you should always take corporate promises with a grain-of-salt. If they actually come through on a promise then consider that a bonus; then you won't be disappointed. I think much of the time these promises are made with good intentions - but in business I've found that good intentions don't usually amount to a hill of beans. I work for what I consider to be an excellent company - but there always seem to be circumstances that come up that cause promises to be broken; so it's better to just smile when they make the promises and not count on it. -CB ;)
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This is good advice. Just getting along with people counts for a lot, judging from what I have seen of corporate performance reviews.
Best wishes, Hans
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Yes, it does. In all the reviews I've ever had over my, well ... long, career I'd have to say that the VAST majority of the issues with any review had to do with interpersonal skills and very little to do with technical ability. Very interesting. -CB ;)
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I got lucky, I recently had my yearly review (back in April I believe) and received a raise of $975 a month :->
WOW...I got my review last April (2006) and in December I got a raise of $1000.00 per year :-/
