Holy Water
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Sea men?
-- Broadcast simultaneously one year in the future
Did you know that Mohammad had a 9 year old wife? http://www.muslimhope.com/AishaNine.htm
The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams
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Did you know that Mohammad had a 9 year old wife? http://www.muslimhope.com/AishaNine.htm
The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams
Yes, he was a pedophile. And if you say that out loud, muslims become very angry. :)
-- No humans were probed in the making of this episode
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Do you have any objections to that? I will rather like to have the radicals spend time drinking "holy water" than blowing themselves up.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
will rather like to have the radicals spend time drinking "holy water" than blowing themselves up.
Actually, as far as I'm concerned, they can blow themselves up as well, if they want, as long as they don't take any unwilling or unaware others with them.
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Yes, he was a pedophile. And if you say that out loud, muslims become very angry. :)
-- No humans were probed in the making of this episode
well, that may be true by modern standards, but how different was his behaviour to those around him ? The age of consent in New York at the turn of the century was 12.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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well, that may be true by modern standards, but how different was his behaviour to those around him ? The age of consent in New York at the turn of the century was 12.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
So... long time ago, more pedophiles were more common. :)
-- As Foretold by Nostradamus
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well, that may be true by modern standards, but how different was his behaviour to those around him ? The age of consent in New York at the turn of the century was 12.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
That's a good point! Now will you consider such an act immoral now? If yes then doesn't morality depend on time, place and circumstances.
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So... long time ago, more pedophiles were more common. :)
-- As Foretold by Nostradamus
Sure - I'm not saying that I think it was acceptable, precisely because I see it through the eyes of a member of modern society. I'm saying, it's not right to assume that someone who lived in a different society to the one we live in, by the rules of our society. No-one should be scandalised about the number of US presidents who 'owned' slaves, for example. But, if GWB turns out to have slaves, then that's another matter.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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Sure - I'm not saying that I think it was acceptable, precisely because I see it through the eyes of a member of modern society. I'm saying, it's not right to assume that someone who lived in a different society to the one we live in, by the rules of our society. No-one should be scandalised about the number of US presidents who 'owned' slaves, for example. But, if GWB turns out to have slaves, then that's another matter.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
I am not arguing whether it was right or wrong then. :) My point is: many of today's muslims become infuriated for making the simplest of simplest observations: he was a pedophile.
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I am not arguing whether it was right or wrong then. :) My point is: many of today's muslims become infuriated for making the simplest of simplest observations: he was a pedophile.
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
My point is: many of today's muslims become infuriated for making the simplest of simplest observations: he was a pedophile.
Yes, that is probably true. The problem is, if one accepts he was a holy man, then one would expect him to rise above the mores of his time. If you think he was just some guy, then you'd expect him to do the same as those around him.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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That's a good point! Now will you consider such an act immoral now? If yes then doesn't morality depend on time, place and circumstances.
yes, morality is definately a construct of society, that's my point. I'd still think it was wrong, but I'm a product of a society that causes me to think that. I also assume that his 9 yo wife was similar in terms of mental age to my 10 yo daughter, when the truth is she probably had adulthood thrust upon her far younger than kids do today. I read an interesting book by Neil Postman on the subject of the construct of childhood, and how it was unknown in the West as well, 1000 years ago. Childhood as a seperate stage of life, or something to be cherished, is a relatively new idea, and in many ways, it revolves around the idea of reading. If adult society is build on the ability to read and write to pass on and store information, one is not ready to take part until one has had time to learn how to do these things.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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Did you know that Mohammad had a 9 year old wife? http://www.muslimhope.com/AishaNine.htm
The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams
She was orphaned and since there was no way to adopt her it was that or she would have starved to death, a mechanism nothing more.
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Yes, he was a pedophile. And if you say that out loud, muslims become very angry. :)
-- No humans were probed in the making of this episode
Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
muslims become very angry.
Fuck 'em. What doesn't make them angry?
Pardon Libbey!
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She was orphaned and since there was no way to adopt her it was that or she would have starved to death, a mechanism nothing more.
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
muslims become very angry.
Fuck 'em. What doesn't make them angry?
Pardon Libbey!
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Do you have any objections to that?
nope, only amazement.
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
nope, only amazement.
Why are you amazed? Assuming what HotAir came out of that site has any truth to it; do you not do something bigger? Do you not believe that you eat the flesh & drink the blood of Jesus (peace be upon him)? What is more is that in your belief you are devouring part of a God...
Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)
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She was orphaned and since there was no way to adopt her it was that or she would have starved to death, a mechanism nothing more.
Trollslayer wrote:
since there was no way to adopt her it was that or she would have starved to death
Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her) did not marry the Prophet because of any threat of starvation, in fact her father (AbuBakir AlSidiq) was well off at the time.
Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)
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Trollslayer wrote:
since there was no way to adopt her it was that or she would have starved to death
Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her) did not marry the Prophet because of any threat of starvation, in fact her father (AbuBakir AlSidiq) was well off at the time.
Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)
A.A. wrote:
it was that or she would have starved to death
He wasn't able to just feed her ?
A.A. wrote:
(may Allah be pleased with her)
Islam seems a very regimented religion to me, the way you guys seem required to interject this sort of stuff all the time.
A.A. wrote:
in fact her father (AbuBakir AlSidiq) was well off at the time.
If her father was alive, that points towards it being in line with the way society worked at the time. I guess that's only a problem if you want to claim Mohammed was anything more than an example of a person of his times.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
nope, only amazement.
Why are you amazed? Assuming what HotAir came out of that site has any truth to it; do you not do something bigger? Do you not believe that you eat the flesh & drink the blood of Jesus (peace be upon him)? What is more is that in your belief you are devouring part of a God...
Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)
A.A. wrote:
Do you not believe that you eat the flesh & drink the blood of Jesus
No Christian believes that.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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A.A. wrote:
it was that or she would have starved to death
He wasn't able to just feed her ?
A.A. wrote:
(may Allah be pleased with her)
Islam seems a very regimented religion to me, the way you guys seem required to interject this sort of stuff all the time.
A.A. wrote:
in fact her father (AbuBakir AlSidiq) was well off at the time.
If her father was alive, that points towards it being in line with the way society worked at the time. I guess that's only a problem if you want to claim Mohammed was anything more than an example of a person of his times.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Christian Graus wrote:
He wasn't able to just feed her ?
:confused:
Christian Graus wrote:
Islam seems a very regimented religion to me, the way you guys seem required to interject this sort of stuff all the time.
Ok
Christian Graus wrote:
If her father was alive, that points towards it being in line with the way society worked at the time.
That what is in line with society?
Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)
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A.A. wrote:
Do you not believe that you eat the flesh & drink the blood of Jesus
No Christian believes that.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Christian Graus wrote:
No Christian believes that.
Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)