Holy Water
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Did you know that Mohammad had a 9 year old wife? http://www.muslimhope.com/AishaNine.htm
The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams
She was orphaned and since there was no way to adopt her it was that or she would have starved to death, a mechanism nothing more.
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Yes, he was a pedophile. And if you say that out loud, muslims become very angry. :)
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
muslims become very angry.
Fuck 'em. What doesn't make them angry?
Pardon Libbey!
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She was orphaned and since there was no way to adopt her it was that or she would have starved to death, a mechanism nothing more.
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
muslims become very angry.
Fuck 'em. What doesn't make them angry?
Pardon Libbey!
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
Do you have any objections to that?
nope, only amazement.
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
nope, only amazement.
Why are you amazed? Assuming what HotAir came out of that site has any truth to it; do you not do something bigger? Do you not believe that you eat the flesh & drink the blood of Jesus (peace be upon him)? What is more is that in your belief you are devouring part of a God...
Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)
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She was orphaned and since there was no way to adopt her it was that or she would have starved to death, a mechanism nothing more.
Trollslayer wrote:
since there was no way to adopt her it was that or she would have starved to death
Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her) did not marry the Prophet because of any threat of starvation, in fact her father (AbuBakir AlSidiq) was well off at the time.
Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)
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Trollslayer wrote:
since there was no way to adopt her it was that or she would have starved to death
Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her) did not marry the Prophet because of any threat of starvation, in fact her father (AbuBakir AlSidiq) was well off at the time.
Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)
A.A. wrote:
it was that or she would have starved to death
He wasn't able to just feed her ?
A.A. wrote:
(may Allah be pleased with her)
Islam seems a very regimented religion to me, the way you guys seem required to interject this sort of stuff all the time.
A.A. wrote:
in fact her father (AbuBakir AlSidiq) was well off at the time.
If her father was alive, that points towards it being in line with the way society worked at the time. I guess that's only a problem if you want to claim Mohammed was anything more than an example of a person of his times.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
nope, only amazement.
Why are you amazed? Assuming what HotAir came out of that site has any truth to it; do you not do something bigger? Do you not believe that you eat the flesh & drink the blood of Jesus (peace be upon him)? What is more is that in your belief you are devouring part of a God...
Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)
A.A. wrote:
Do you not believe that you eat the flesh & drink the blood of Jesus
No Christian believes that.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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A.A. wrote:
it was that or she would have starved to death
He wasn't able to just feed her ?
A.A. wrote:
(may Allah be pleased with her)
Islam seems a very regimented religion to me, the way you guys seem required to interject this sort of stuff all the time.
A.A. wrote:
in fact her father (AbuBakir AlSidiq) was well off at the time.
If her father was alive, that points towards it being in line with the way society worked at the time. I guess that's only a problem if you want to claim Mohammed was anything more than an example of a person of his times.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Christian Graus wrote:
He wasn't able to just feed her ?
:confused:
Christian Graus wrote:
Islam seems a very regimented religion to me, the way you guys seem required to interject this sort of stuff all the time.
Ok
Christian Graus wrote:
If her father was alive, that points towards it being in line with the way society worked at the time.
That what is in line with society?
Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)
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A.A. wrote:
Do you not believe that you eat the flesh & drink the blood of Jesus
No Christian believes that.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Christian Graus wrote:
No Christian believes that.
Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)
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Christian Graus wrote:
No Christian believes that.
Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)
Even this Wikipedia entry doesn't quite claim that. I plainly knew what you were talking about, but even Catholics don't literally believe that nowadays, I don't believe. Certainly the vast majority of Christians understand Jesus words to mean that He was indicating a ritual to remember His blood and body, not that it literally becomes that.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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Christian Graus wrote:
He wasn't able to just feed her ?
:confused:
Christian Graus wrote:
Islam seems a very regimented religion to me, the way you guys seem required to interject this sort of stuff all the time.
Ok
Christian Graus wrote:
If her father was alive, that points towards it being in line with the way society worked at the time.
That what is in line with society?
Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)
A.A. wrote:
That what is in line with society?
To marry a nine year old. In response to Trollslayer, I'm asking why it was impossible for him to look after this girl without marrying her.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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Even this Wikipedia entry doesn't quite claim that. I plainly knew what you were talking about, but even Catholics don't literally believe that nowadays, I don't believe. Certainly the vast majority of Christians understand Jesus words to mean that He was indicating a ritual to remember His blood and body, not that it literally becomes that.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Christian Graus wrote:
Even this Wikipedia entry doesn't quite claim that.
From article:
According to the Roman Catholic Church, when the bread and wine are consecrated in the Eucharist, they cease to be bread and wine, and become instead the body and blood of Christ. The empirical appearances are not changed, but the reality is.
Christian Graus wrote:
but even Catholics don't literally believe that nowadays
I've seen otherwise...
Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)
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Christian Graus wrote:
Even this Wikipedia entry doesn't quite claim that.
From article:
According to the Roman Catholic Church, when the bread and wine are consecrated in the Eucharist, they cease to be bread and wine, and become instead the body and blood of Christ. The empirical appearances are not changed, but the reality is.
Christian Graus wrote:
but even Catholics don't literally believe that nowadays
I've seen otherwise...
Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)
I can't speak for everyone, I am saying that you're making a generalisation that is not the case in at least 95% of cases. I am not claiming it's 100% untrue, I am saying it's a rare belief, and so not one you can assume when you speak to someone, as you did above.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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I can't speak for everyone, I am saying that you're making a generalisation that is not the case in at least 95% of cases. I am not claiming it's 100% untrue, I am saying it's a rare belief, and so not one you can assume when you speak to someone, as you did above.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Christian Graus wrote:
I can't speak for everyone, I am saying that you're making a generalisation that is not the case in at least 95% of cases.
Just to make sure I understand you correctly, are you saying this is not a belief of the Catholic church? Or that this belief morphed into something else? If so than many references need to be changed and someone needs to get the word out, as I ran into a several who explained their beliefs to me.
Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)
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Christian Graus wrote:
I can't speak for everyone, I am saying that you're making a generalisation that is not the case in at least 95% of cases.
Just to make sure I understand you correctly, are you saying this is not a belief of the Catholic church? Or that this belief morphed into something else? If so than many references need to be changed and someone needs to get the word out, as I ran into a several who explained their beliefs to me.
Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)
The Catholic church used to believe that, no Protestant believes it ( which means, all other Christian churches ), and I thought that the Catholic church had also softened it's position on this. At a minimum, you need to say Catholic, not Christian, they are very different things.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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The Catholic church used to believe that, no Protestant believes it ( which means, all other Christian churches ), and I thought that the Catholic church had also softened it's position on this. At a minimum, you need to say Catholic, not Christian, they are very different things.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Christian Graus wrote:
no Protestant believes it ( which means, all other Christian churches )
Oh I am aware of their differences on this issue.
Christian Graus wrote:
At a minimum, you need to say Catholic, not Christian, they are very different things.
I didn't say either...
Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)
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well, that may be true by modern standards, but how different was his behaviour to those around him ? The age of consent in New York at the turn of the century was 12.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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Christian Graus wrote:
age of consent in New York at the turn of the century was 12.
Amazing what can happen in just 7 years. :rolleyes:
:laugh::laugh:
Regards, Satips.:rose:
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Christian Graus wrote:
no Protestant believes it ( which means, all other Christian churches )
Oh I am aware of their differences on this issue.
Christian Graus wrote:
At a minimum, you need to say Catholic, not Christian, they are very different things.
I didn't say either...
Who is the creator? Finding Allah (Video) Surah Al-An'aam (Ayah 74-110)
You're right. Is Mike Catholic ? I didn't know.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )