What would you do, if you were in my shoes?
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I found a programming job in a company recently, mostly to write in c++. After two weeks something new happened. My boss asked me to hack a plug-in that is too expensive to buy in my country. They are going to sell the plug-in and if I don't do the hack, I'll probably lose my job. It is very hard to find a job opportunity where I live due to economical problems. If I don't hack the plug-in, they simply forget using or selling that. I mean, they won't buy it anyway, furthermore that company isn't able to sell it's product here due to governments prohibitions. But I understand the effort they put to produce that piece of software. I think I'm able to hack it technically, but not for this purpose(Selling other's work and effort.) What would you do, if you were in my shoes? Leave the job?:confused:
It sounds like you are stuck between a rock and a hard place. By the sounds of your situation my recommendation is that you should start looking for a new job. It doesn't sounds like you would be able to convince your current bosses to change their mind, but you need to put food on your table too. If it were me and I had the funds to ride out a few months of unemployment then I'd take a principled stand. Any other scenario and I'd try and get another job lined up before leaving. In the mean time, continue writing articles in order to impress prospective new employers. If you are in one of the new eastern EU countries then you should be able to easily get a job else where in the EU where employers are much more principled.
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I found a programming job in a company recently, mostly to write in c++. After two weeks something new happened. My boss asked me to hack a plug-in that is too expensive to buy in my country. They are going to sell the plug-in and if I don't do the hack, I'll probably lose my job. It is very hard to find a job opportunity where I live due to economical problems. If I don't hack the plug-in, they simply forget using or selling that. I mean, they won't buy it anyway, furthermore that company isn't able to sell it's product here due to governments prohibitions. But I understand the effort they put to produce that piece of software. I think I'm able to hack it technically, but not for this purpose(Selling other's work and effort.) What would you do, if you were in my shoes? Leave the job?:confused:
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I'm sorry, but you're trying to pretend to be from a foreign country where hacking is legal. Under international law, hacking is illegal in ALL countries. Now, to the main point - you're pretending to be a foreign developer but your use of English is too good - your punctuation is excellent and your grammar is too good. So, be a good troll and go home.
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Pete O`Hanlon wrote:
Now, to the main point - you're pretending to be a foreign developer but your use of English is too good - your punctuation is excellent and your grammar is too good.
Huh? Since when did Americans, Canadians, Brits, Aussies and Kiwis have a collective monopoly over fluency in English? I personally know many Indians who are as fluent in English as any native speaker. [plug]I daresay I write English better than most native speakers.[/plug]
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Pete O`Hanlon wrote:
Now, to the main point - you're pretending to be a foreign developer but your use of English is too good - your punctuation is excellent and your grammar is too good.
Huh? Since when did Americans, Canadians, Brits, Aussies and Kiwis have a collective monopoly over fluency in English? I personally know many Indians who are as fluent in English as any native speaker. [plug]I daresay I write English better than most native speakers.[/plug]
Cheers, Vıkram.
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
personally know many Indians who are as fluent in English as any native speaker.
Controversially, this has more to do with Indian fluency having been influenced by the fact that India was part of the British empire. India was exposed to English far more than certain other countries were. As to my suspicion about his use of English, it's more to do with use of colloquialisms than fluency in the main language. Notice the point raised in Colin's reply above - the use of awfully, which is almost entirely an English trait.
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Pete O`Hanlon wrote:
Check your licenses - they state that reverse engineering code is illegal and prohibited under international law.
If a licence doesn't state so it's not illegal.
Pete O`Hanlon wrote:
Now, the Mexican government has signed up to international treaties which are legally binding
Now that's true. But that means that if someone breaks such international law, the government would receive a "recommendation" to stop it, yet the hacker can even win the trail because is not stated as such in the mexican law. The main idea of the international treaty is to change local laws so they are in harmony with international standards.
Pete O`Hanlon wrote:
unlikely from his mastery of English
Well I admit it, that it is interesting. Never faced a troll before though.
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Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
If a licence doesn't state so it's not illegal.
I'll grant you that, but I can't remember the last licence I read that didn't state this.
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
personally know many Indians who are as fluent in English as any native speaker.
Controversially, this has more to do with Indian fluency having been influenced by the fact that India was part of the British empire. India was exposed to English far more than certain other countries were. As to my suspicion about his use of English, it's more to do with use of colloquialisms than fluency in the main language. Notice the point raised in Colin's reply above - the use of awfully, which is almost entirely an English trait.
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Pete O`Hanlon wrote:
India was exposed to English far more than certain other countries were.
India was just an example. There are many Europeans on this board with very good English, and even a couple from the Far East.
Pete O`Hanlon wrote:
the use of awfully, which is almost entirely an English trait
I use it often myself. I even call my friends mate. :-D
Cheers, Vıkram.
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
personally know many Indians who are as fluent in English as any native speaker.
Controversially, this has more to do with Indian fluency having been influenced by the fact that India was part of the British empire. India was exposed to English far more than certain other countries were. As to my suspicion about his use of English, it's more to do with use of colloquialisms than fluency in the main language. Notice the point raised in Colin's reply above - the use of awfully, which is almost entirely an English trait.
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Pete O`Hanlon wrote:
the use of awfully, which is almost entirely an English trait
... which rules out that it's Kyle, who's American.
Cheers, Vıkram.
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What's HR? Human resource? If you are talking about Managers, I shall say they all know that. It's a private company and in my country this job(hacking) is not illegal for foreign softwares( Softwares that produced outside of the country.) No rules to bound them, at the moment, so later on, I certainly will not be asked why I did that. The whole country is full of pirated softwares.:( This is just a personal filling:sigh:. I don't like to rub something and then sell that. If I do, what's the difference between me and a thief? But at the same time I'm thinking that, by doing that the plug-in producer company is not loosing any thing. This is a special rubbing. I'm really confused.
Anytime someone asks me to do something unethical, or immoral, I have to think about what they are going to do to me. It's similar to handing a known murderer a gun. As far as the work, I wouldn't feel bad about writing my own app that provides the same function, I might even hack it to see how they've done a few things, but generally, I would write my own, hopefully better, code... But working in a shop like that.. It WILL come back to you, I would worry about my paychecks clearing the bank, and I'd wonder if my benefits were for real, or if the police were going to raid the building on any given day, depending on how deep into illegal work they are. I mean, he's assigned the "new guy" a task to do something illegal, so how much bad stuff do they do around there?
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Pete O`Hanlon wrote:
the use of awfully, which is almost entirely an English trait
... which rules out that it's Kyle, who's American.
Cheers, Vıkram.
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Kyle's not a who. Kyle's more a way of being.
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Check your licenses - they state that reverse engineering code is illegal and prohibited under international law. Now, the Mexican government has signed up to international treaties which are legally binding - so, by default, the reverse engineering of software is illegal. Now, unless this guy is living in North Korea, Iran or Sudan (unlikely from his mastery of English), he's bound by the same international treaties that your government and mine are.
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So what, is Ban Ki-moon going to personally come and arrest him? "International Law" is silly and largely unenforcable. I suppose a software company that has too much money could start an international law suit based on it.. I'm sure that will take a decade or so to resolve.. Dosn't Seagate still have an unresolved suit against Microshaft for stealing the Backup Exec software? Besides, legal or not, software piracy is world-wide and very common in the U.S.- as much as anywhere. It's more the personal ethics of it all. Are you personally willing to slap your name on someone else's work, legal or not? And for a consumer - are you willing to spend a lot of money buying software that's obviously been pilfered from a reputable company? Will you get the same kind of support when there are problems? Will you get quality updates? Training? Is it worth the risk?
Bart A. Edgerton www.ewebdev.net
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Kyle's not a who. Kyle's more a way of being.
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Pete O`Hanlon wrote:
Kyle's more a way of being.
And I am not that way. What should I do to ensure you?