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  • L Lost User

    ...from my 80 GB hard drive. Finally got it working and Ghost managed to move everything across from my old drive. Actually 80 GB is a bit of a stretch and the consistency between the different parts of the system impresses me no end. BIOS - 80020 MB FDISK - 76317 MB Windows 2000 - 74.53 GB (pretty much the same as FDISK) I mean I have lost 5.47 GB from the manufacturer's claim, my old disk was only 4 and a bit GB as it was. I have lost more usuable space than I had before. The other thing is cost compared to a few years ago. I paid AUD $235.00 for a Seagate Barracuda 80 GB ATA100 7200 RPM on the weekend. Back in 1993 I purchased a 540 MB HDD that required a utility to be loaded so that my 486 could read past the 1024th cylinder. I shopped around for ages and eventually went to a dodgy Asian store that couldn't have been charging sales tax and still it cost me AUD$300.00 (about $60.00 less than every other store around). The final whinge is about the jumpers that manufacturer's place on HDD. I know that they have to make good contact to work, but I needed to use a pair of small pliers to get the jumper off my new HDD. :wtf: Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "In Summer, I like to dance naked on the roof to celebrate the event of the temperature finally falling below 40C (usually about midnight). But the neighbors have lately taken up the habit of staying up late. And looking up, at times, from their dreary, pointless lives..." - Roger Wright 15/05/2002

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    Michael Martin wrote: ...from my 80 GB hard drive wow... I could really use one of those here... but its too expensive... Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 Trank :beer: The alcohol is one of the greatest enemys of man, but a man who flee from his enemys is a coward. :beer:

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      ...from my 80 GB hard drive. Finally got it working and Ghost managed to move everything across from my old drive. Actually 80 GB is a bit of a stretch and the consistency between the different parts of the system impresses me no end. BIOS - 80020 MB FDISK - 76317 MB Windows 2000 - 74.53 GB (pretty much the same as FDISK) I mean I have lost 5.47 GB from the manufacturer's claim, my old disk was only 4 and a bit GB as it was. I have lost more usuable space than I had before. The other thing is cost compared to a few years ago. I paid AUD $235.00 for a Seagate Barracuda 80 GB ATA100 7200 RPM on the weekend. Back in 1993 I purchased a 540 MB HDD that required a utility to be loaded so that my 486 could read past the 1024th cylinder. I shopped around for ages and eventually went to a dodgy Asian store that couldn't have been charging sales tax and still it cost me AUD$300.00 (about $60.00 less than every other store around). The final whinge is about the jumpers that manufacturer's place on HDD. I know that they have to make good contact to work, but I needed to use a pair of small pliers to get the jumper off my new HDD. :wtf: Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "In Summer, I like to dance naked on the roof to celebrate the event of the temperature finally falling below 40C (usually about midnight). But the neighbors have lately taken up the habit of staying up late. And looking up, at times, from their dreary, pointless lives..." - Roger Wright 15/05/2002

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      The old problem Win and BIOS calculate the byte size... ugly stuff X|

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      • M Mauricio Ritter

        Michael Martin wrote: ...from my 80 GB hard drive wow... I could really use one of those here... but its too expensive... Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 Trank :beer: The alcohol is one of the greatest enemys of man, but a man who flee from his enemys is a coward. :beer:

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        Mauricio Ritter wrote: wow... I could really use one of those here... but its too expensive... Find out where Michael is living and rob his one ;-)


        "When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]

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          Michael Martin wrote: ...from my 80 GB hard drive wow... I could really use one of those here... but its too expensive... Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 Trank :beer: The alcohol is one of the greatest enemys of man, but a man who flee from his enemys is a coward. :beer:

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          Ive got a 15gig master and a 60gig slave giving me 75gig total.....which makes me smile :)

          Jonny Newman Liverpool, UK Sonork: 16257:Jonny Newman MSN Msngr: jonathann4@hotmail.com ICQ: 37606329 and now..... nonny@nonny.com I'm out there! Feel free to contact me about anything.

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          • J Jon Newman

            Ive got a 15gig master and a 60gig slave giving me 75gig total.....which makes me smile :)

            Jonny Newman Liverpool, UK Sonork: 16257:Jonny Newman MSN Msngr: jonathann4@hotmail.com ICQ: 37606329 and now..... nonny@nonny.com I'm out there! Feel free to contact me about anything.

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            Jonny Newman wrote: Ive got a 15gig master and a 60gig slave giving me 75gig total.....which makes me smile I want to knwo what people fill these with!!! I'm preumeing MP3's and Ripped DVD but that'd probably be all illegal and I can't see my fellow CPians do that.. would they :~ eh hem :laugh:


            "When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]

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            • B Brian Delahunty

              Jonny Newman wrote: Ive got a 15gig master and a 60gig slave giving me 75gig total.....which makes me smile I want to knwo what people fill these with!!! I'm preumeing MP3's and Ripped DVD but that'd probably be all illegal and I can't see my fellow CPians do that.. would they :~ eh hem :laugh:


              "When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]

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              Jon Newman
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              I've partitioned it off into managable chunks. Which allows me to have Win2k, Win2k Server, WinXP and Linux all on the same machine :-D Also there is room for my copious amounts of downloaded libaries and apps Plus all the CP code demos and sources :-D Then there is all my assignments X| And last but not least, my movies ripped from my own DVD's as backups :~

              Jonny Newman Liverpool, UK Sonork: 16257:Jonny Newman MSN Msngr: jonathann4@hotmail.com ICQ: 37606329 and now..... nonny@nonny.com I'm out there! Feel free to contact me about anything.

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              • J Jon Newman

                Ive got a 15gig master and a 60gig slave giving me 75gig total.....which makes me smile :)

                Jonny Newman Liverpool, UK Sonork: 16257:Jonny Newman MSN Msngr: jonathann4@hotmail.com ICQ: 37606329 and now..... nonny@nonny.com I'm out there! Feel free to contact me about anything.

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                Jonny Newman wrote: Ive got a 15gig master and a 60gig slave giving me 75gig total.....which makes me smile I´ve got a 30GB master and a 6GB slave (really slow) that makes me cry... :(( Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 Trank :beer: The alcohol is one of the greatest enemys of man, but a man who flee from his enemys is a coward. :beer:

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                  I've partitioned it off into managable chunks. Which allows me to have Win2k, Win2k Server, WinXP and Linux all on the same machine :-D Also there is room for my copious amounts of downloaded libaries and apps Plus all the CP code demos and sources :-D Then there is all my assignments X| And last but not least, my movies ripped from my own DVD's as backups :~

                  Jonny Newman Liverpool, UK Sonork: 16257:Jonny Newman MSN Msngr: jonathann4@hotmail.com ICQ: 37606329 and now..... nonny@nonny.com I'm out there! Feel free to contact me about anything.

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                  Jonny Newman wrote: downloaded libaries and apps Any good ones?


                  "When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]

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                  • M Mauricio Ritter

                    Michael Martin wrote: ...from my 80 GB hard drive wow... I could really use one of those here... but its too expensive... Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 Trank :beer: The alcohol is one of the greatest enemys of man, but a man who flee from his enemys is a coward. :beer:

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                    Mauricio Ritter wrote: wow... I could really use one of those here... but its too expensive... I finally got myself some casual work pulling down, moving and then putting back up, shelves, pallet racks and other stuff at a warehouse for the past couple of weeks. After paying for living expenses I went out and bought the HDD as the 4 GB and 3 GB I had were overflowing once I had Office, VC++, MSDN and the SDK installed plus a few other shareware and freeware bits and pieces. 80 GB was overkill but the store had run out of 60 GB HDD. Also with costs being - 20 GB - $135.00 40 GB - $165.00 60 GB - $200.00 80 GB - $235.00 It was hardly worth getting the smaller disks. I doubt I will have anything to go close to filling it but better to have too much than not enough. Anyway I better get to bed. 5 hours before I have to get up for another 8 hours of manual labour. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "In Summer, I like to dance naked on the roof to celebrate the event of the temperature finally falling below 40C (usually about midnight). But the neighbors have lately taken up the habit of staying up late. And looking up, at times, from their dreary, pointless lives..." - Roger Wright 15/05/2002

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                    • B Brian Delahunty

                      Jonny Newman wrote: downloaded libaries and apps Any good ones?


                      "When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]

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                      um....libraries are mostly add-ins like the JPEG library and WTL. Apps with source are stuff like Mozilla which unpacks to be huge :eek: Other stuff includes eval editions of server apps like the Mobile Information Server which i'm installing now. Also there are the various SDKs and Platforms. I just checked my 'Download' directory and its nearly 3gig. When i sort it out they will go into my filling system on the server called 'Jonny's Stuff'. At the moment this is around 3 gig too. Any music goes into the 'Music Server' (4gig!!) directory where it is separated by artist. Movies have there own partition of 17gig, of which 14 is used :wtf: Anything else goes into the 'Files' partition until i find somewhere to put them! :-D "When I'm not awake i'm usually sleeping" - Jonny Newman + C2H5OH

                      Jonny Newman Liverpool, UK Sonork: 16257:Jonny Newman MSN Msngr: jonathann4@hotmail.com ICQ: 37606329 and now..... nonny@nonny.com I'm out there! Feel free to contact me about anything.

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                        um....libraries are mostly add-ins like the JPEG library and WTL. Apps with source are stuff like Mozilla which unpacks to be huge :eek: Other stuff includes eval editions of server apps like the Mobile Information Server which i'm installing now. Also there are the various SDKs and Platforms. I just checked my 'Download' directory and its nearly 3gig. When i sort it out they will go into my filling system on the server called 'Jonny's Stuff'. At the moment this is around 3 gig too. Any music goes into the 'Music Server' (4gig!!) directory where it is separated by artist. Movies have there own partition of 17gig, of which 14 is used :wtf: Anything else goes into the 'Files' partition until i find somewhere to put them! :-D "When I'm not awake i'm usually sleeping" - Jonny Newman + C2H5OH

                        Jonny Newman Liverpool, UK Sonork: 16257:Jonny Newman MSN Msngr: jonathann4@hotmail.com ICQ: 37606329 and now..... nonny@nonny.com I'm out there! Feel free to contact me about anything.

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                        Jonny Newman wrote: libraries are mostly add-ins like the JPEG library and WTL. I know that. But sometime people pick up unusual one. My friend happened across one that was basically a *nix library for VS. It allowed him to develope for *nix using the VS IDE [which is way better that anything I'm come across on *nix]... he couldn't execute the code directly but there was an add in that allowed you to specify the machine you were developing for and give a username and password and VS would then compile the code and run it on the remote machine... but he lost it... ass!!! That would be so handy for me!!!


                        "When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]

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                        • L Lost User

                          ...from my 80 GB hard drive. Finally got it working and Ghost managed to move everything across from my old drive. Actually 80 GB is a bit of a stretch and the consistency between the different parts of the system impresses me no end. BIOS - 80020 MB FDISK - 76317 MB Windows 2000 - 74.53 GB (pretty much the same as FDISK) I mean I have lost 5.47 GB from the manufacturer's claim, my old disk was only 4 and a bit GB as it was. I have lost more usuable space than I had before. The other thing is cost compared to a few years ago. I paid AUD $235.00 for a Seagate Barracuda 80 GB ATA100 7200 RPM on the weekend. Back in 1993 I purchased a 540 MB HDD that required a utility to be loaded so that my 486 could read past the 1024th cylinder. I shopped around for ages and eventually went to a dodgy Asian store that couldn't have been charging sales tax and still it cost me AUD$300.00 (about $60.00 less than every other store around). The final whinge is about the jumpers that manufacturer's place on HDD. I know that they have to make good contact to work, but I needed to use a pair of small pliers to get the jumper off my new HDD. :wtf: Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "In Summer, I like to dance naked on the roof to celebrate the event of the temperature finally falling below 40C (usually about midnight). But the neighbors have lately taken up the habit of staying up late. And looking up, at times, from their dreary, pointless lives..." - Roger Wright 15/05/2002

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                          Michael Martin wrote: ...from my 80 GB hard drive. My new 19" monitor (iiyama vision master pro 454) greets your HD back :)

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                          • J Jason Henderson

                            I have every episode of star trek TNG but they are all on CDs since I only have a 20 gig HD. :( Like it or not, I'm right.

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                            Jason Henderson wrote: every episode of star trek TNG I go for movies and music vids Jason Henderson wrote: they are all on CDs VCDs rock!

                            Jonny Newman Liverpool, UK Sonork: 16257:Jonny Newman MSN Msngr: jonathann4@hotmail.com ICQ: 37606329 and now..... nonny@nonny.com I'm out there! Feel free to contact me about anything.

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                              Jonny Newman wrote: Ive got a 15gig master and a 60gig slave giving me 75gig total.....which makes me smile I want to knwo what people fill these with!!! I'm preumeing MP3's and Ripped DVD but that'd probably be all illegal and I can't see my fellow CPians do that.. would they :~ eh hem :laugh:


                              "When a friend hurts us, we should write it down in the sand, where the winds of forgiveness get in charge of erasing it away, and when something great happens, we should engrave it in the stone of the memory of the heart, where no wind can erase it" Nish on life [methinks]

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                              I have every episode of star trek TNG but they are all on CDs since I only have a 20 gig HD. :( Like it or not, I'm right.

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                                ...from my 80 GB hard drive. Finally got it working and Ghost managed to move everything across from my old drive. Actually 80 GB is a bit of a stretch and the consistency between the different parts of the system impresses me no end. BIOS - 80020 MB FDISK - 76317 MB Windows 2000 - 74.53 GB (pretty much the same as FDISK) I mean I have lost 5.47 GB from the manufacturer's claim, my old disk was only 4 and a bit GB as it was. I have lost more usuable space than I had before. The other thing is cost compared to a few years ago. I paid AUD $235.00 for a Seagate Barracuda 80 GB ATA100 7200 RPM on the weekend. Back in 1993 I purchased a 540 MB HDD that required a utility to be loaded so that my 486 could read past the 1024th cylinder. I shopped around for ages and eventually went to a dodgy Asian store that couldn't have been charging sales tax and still it cost me AUD$300.00 (about $60.00 less than every other store around). The final whinge is about the jumpers that manufacturer's place on HDD. I know that they have to make good contact to work, but I needed to use a pair of small pliers to get the jumper off my new HDD. :wtf: Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "In Summer, I like to dance naked on the roof to celebrate the event of the temperature finally falling below 40C (usually about midnight). But the neighbors have lately taken up the habit of staying up late. And looking up, at times, from their dreary, pointless lives..." - Roger Wright 15/05/2002

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                                Nice not to have to worry about free space ain't it :) I finally broke down & bought a 120GB drive a while back; coupled with my 40GB removeable it should keep me satisfied for a while... --------

                                Life is fraught with opportunities to keep your mouth shut.

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                                  Jason Henderson wrote: every episode of star trek TNG I go for movies and music vids Jason Henderson wrote: they are all on CDs VCDs rock!

                                  Jonny Newman Liverpool, UK Sonork: 16257:Jonny Newman MSN Msngr: jonathann4@hotmail.com ICQ: 37606329 and now..... nonny@nonny.com I'm out there! Feel free to contact me about anything.

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                                  I'm also working on the new star trek series (Enterprise). I have about 21 of the 26 episodes so far. I don't download movies because the quality is usually pretty much crap. I don't like watching a video of someone taking a video in the theater. Like it or not, I'm right.

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                                    I think HD manufacturers purposefully use the wrong calculation for their storage capacity. 1 mb (1048576 bytes) X 1000 = 1 gb (1048576000 bytes) So 80 gb = 83886080000 bytes When windows calculates it, it uses 1 mb (1048576 bytes) X 1024 = 1 gb (1073741824 bytes) So 80 gb to windows = 85899345920 bytes I don't know why they calculate it this way, but what can you do. Like it or not, I'm right.

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                                    I think that they don't do this mistake. Actually if you install another OS on your drive you'll probably see that you have more (or sometimes less :(( ) free space. That's because any filesystem needs information to work and stores it a part of the hard drive, making it invisible and unusable for the user... (and windows one is very hungry... X| ) .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:..:.:. Should computing stay as a source of benefit or become like knowledge : free and opened to every one ?... ;)

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                                      I'm also working on the new star trek series (Enterprise). I have about 21 of the 26 episodes so far. I don't download movies because the quality is usually pretty much crap. I don't like watching a video of someone taking a video in the theater. Like it or not, I'm right.

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                                      Jason Henderson wrote: I have about 21 of the 26 episodes so far. DSL/Cable? Jason Henderson wrote: I don't download movies because the quality is usually pretty much crap. I normally use an AVI index repairer on a partial movie. This way i can search for good quality ones. Jason Henderson wrote: I don't like watching a video of someone taking a video in the theater. Ive got a few like that X|

                                      Jonny Newman Liverpool, UK Sonork: 16257:Jonny Newman MSN Msngr: jonathann4@hotmail.com ICQ: 37606329 and now..... nonny@nonny.com I'm out there! Feel free to contact me about anything.

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                                        I think that they don't do this mistake. Actually if you install another OS on your drive you'll probably see that you have more (or sometimes less :(( ) free space. That's because any filesystem needs information to work and stores it a part of the hard drive, making it invisible and unusable for the user... (and windows one is very hungry... X| ) .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:..:.:. Should computing stay as a source of benefit or become like knowledge : free and opened to every one ?... ;)

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                                        I think you're missing the point. :-) It's not the size of free space he's measuring, it's the actual size of the disk. And yes, hard disk manufacturers do this type of thing intentionally - it's a sales thing. :-( :) Kris :)

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                                          I think that they don't do this mistake. Actually if you install another OS on your drive you'll probably see that you have more (or sometimes less :(( ) free space. That's because any filesystem needs information to work and stores it a part of the hard drive, making it invisible and unusable for the user... (and windows one is very hungry... X| ) .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:..:.:. Should computing stay as a source of benefit or become like knowledge : free and opened to every one ?... ;)

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                                          Guejo wrote: I think that they don't do this mistake. IMHO, it is not a mistake, it's a marketing trick. For example, fropm http://www.seagate.com/cda/products/discsales/marketing/detail/0,1081,550,00.html: "Capacity: Capacity is the amount of data that the drive can store, after formatting. Most disc drive companies, including Seagate, calculate disc capacity based on the assumption that 1 megabyte = 1000 kilobytes and 1 gigabyte=1000 megabytes." We're talking shit, 'cause life is a 'biz You know it is Everybody tryin' to get rich God damn! All I wanna do is live ! KoRn, Children of the Korn

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