Novice vs. Expert Google Users
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I agree totally with everything you just said. ;P Apparently I'm an expert, though. If anyone has any influence in Google, make sure to tell them that I'm an expert in Google and search engines in general. :laugh:
Ravel H. Joyce - Well I say that sticking a balloon to your head IS a scientific experiment!
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Well then this makes me an expert Google'er:-D < EDIT > Fixed the blatant typo < / EDIT >
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"Okay, I give up: which is NOT a real programming language????" Michael Bergman
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Oh lordy, and the importance of this is?
"We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson
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Oh lordy, and the importance of this is?
"We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson
Nothing needs to be important. This the Lounge.
Kevin
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"Novice users typically type queries in natural language while expert users use keyword searches." "On average, it takes a new Google user 1 month to go from typing novice queries to being a search expert." "But there are already search engines like hakia that want you to use full sentences to take advantage of the relationships between words. Maybe users shouldn't adapt to search engines' limitations, but search engines should become smart enough to understand our requests." Interesting, so users naturally start using less natural syntax, and maybe they shouldn't? :confused:
"Throughout human history, we have been dependent on machines to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. " - Morpheus "Real men use mspaint for writing code and notepad for designing graphics." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe
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Oh lordy, and the importance of this is?
"We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson
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"Novice users typically type queries in natural language while expert users use keyword searches." "On average, it takes a new Google user 1 month to go from typing novice queries to being a search expert." "But there are already search engines like hakia that want you to use full sentences to take advantage of the relationships between words. Maybe users shouldn't adapt to search engines' limitations, but search engines should become smart enough to understand our requests." Interesting, so users naturally start using less natural syntax, and maybe they shouldn't? :confused:
"Throughout human history, we have been dependent on machines to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. " - Morpheus "Real men use mspaint for writing code and notepad for designing graphics." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe
From Google's point of view, users can be tagged as novice or expert. Instead, as a user, I think the AI of Google itself is naive, rather than being "expert". Someday, hope google can answer questions as simple as "Why everyone is carry umbrella?" :-D (Am I asking too much???) Anyway, technology is supposed to make life simpler and easier, NOT requiring us to be some kind of "EXPERT". KISS...
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I seem to be an utter Google novice by these standards: I often get questions from friends via IRC concerning programming problems. What I usually do (unless I know the answer by heart) is to copy the question (e.g. "How do I concatenate strings in Ruby"), paste it into google and post the link in the IRC messenger without even looking at the results list. Of course, that's just a paraphrased "STFW" but the first hit almost always holds the answer to the initial question. Which shows that the novice approach using natural language works well enough (provided the question ist well formulated and does not contain the word "umbrella").
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"Novice users typically type queries in natural language while expert users use keyword searches." "On average, it takes a new Google user 1 month to go from typing novice queries to being a search expert." "But there are already search engines like hakia that want you to use full sentences to take advantage of the relationships between words. Maybe users shouldn't adapt to search engines' limitations, but search engines should become smart enough to understand our requests." Interesting, so users naturally start using less natural syntax, and maybe they shouldn't? :confused:
"Throughout human history, we have been dependent on machines to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. " - Morpheus "Real men use mspaint for writing code and notepad for designing graphics." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe
dnh wrote:
Interesting, so users naturally start using less natural syntax, and maybe they shouldn't?
wtf??? ru a no0b?
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dnh wrote:
Interesting, so users naturally start using less natural syntax, and maybe they shouldn't?
wtf??? ru a no0b?
Someone's high, huh?
"Throughout human history, we have been dependent on machines to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. " - Morpheus "Real men use mspaint for writing code and notepad for designing graphics." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe
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I seem to be an utter Google novice by these standards: I often get questions from friends via IRC concerning programming problems. What I usually do (unless I know the answer by heart) is to copy the question (e.g. "How do I concatenate strings in Ruby"), paste it into google and post the link in the IRC messenger without even looking at the results list. Of course, that's just a paraphrased "STFW" but the first hit almost always holds the answer to the initial question. Which shows that the novice approach using natural language works well enough (provided the question ist well formulated and does not contain the word "umbrella").
Well, I think the article is saying that novices will type more than they need rather than that they won't get the same results. But if someone posts you a question then it is certainly quicker to copy and paste the whole question rather than edit it first and then paste it.
Kevin
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This is where technology fails to serve the population. We force the user to adapt to the search engine where it would be more natural to to see a search engine adapting to the user. As user we should pressure systems to answer a user's need instead of imposing new restrictions.... otherwise, google and microsoft can just rule supreme on imposing us new ways to use their systems
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I seem to be an utter Google novice by these standards: I often get questions from friends via IRC concerning programming problems. What I usually do (unless I know the answer by heart) is to copy the question (e.g. "How do I concatenate strings in Ruby"), paste it into google and post the link in the IRC messenger without even looking at the results list. Of course, that's just a paraphrased "STFW" but the first hit almost always holds the answer to the initial question. Which shows that the novice approach using natural language works well enough (provided the question ist well formulated and does not contain the word "umbrella").