London 'Terror Attacks'
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So the difference between a funny terrorist attack and a tragedy is .... luck? A failed bomb component? The issue that you seem to be missing is that there is a relatively large group of Europe's citizenry that if they don't advocate violence, they at least believe that it might be justified in the name of religion. So while you sit there smug in your assertion that these bombers are incompetent and a source of amusement, there is reason to believe that there may be others who will "get lucky" and wipe the smile of your face.
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Doug Goulden wrote:
So the difference between a funny terrorist attack and a tragedy is .... luck? A failed bomb component? The issue that you seem to be missing is that there is a relatively large group of Europe's citizenry that if they don't advocate violence, they at least believe that it might be justified in the name of religion. So while you sit there smug in your assertion that these bombers are incompetent and a source of amusement, there is reason to believe that there may be others who will "get lucky" and wipe the smile of your face.
LUCID AND RATIONAL THINKING IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE SOAPBOX, HEATHEN!!!!!!!!! :->
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AndyKEnZ wrote:
Completely untrue, people were sick of Aznar and his sucking up to GWB.
And yet they were in support of him before the bombings and against him immediately afterwards. Strange how that works, huh? Just face it. Your people were scared into voting socialist. Terrorism dictated your votes.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
Maybe you should have more pride, currently displaced in a nation that has 6pc of the world population and 26pc of THE WORLDS prisoners!
Displaced implies that I'm here through some external and undesirable force. I'm here because it's the best country on earth. A country that is so good, that it can afford to put its criminals behind bars where they belong.
Red Stateler wrote:
And yet they were in support of him before the bombings and against him immediately afterwards. Strange how that works, huh?
Never heard of floating voters? O right now I understand, it's a foreign concept for you died-in-the-wool red necks isn't it? You'll take any sh** as long as it's from the same neo-cons and not believe anything to the contrary, ever, and when faced with facts you don't like you'll label them as left-wing propaganda. The PP tried to blame it onto ETA, it was obvious it wasn't them to the floating voter, obviously, so they voted with the obvious outcome.
Red Stateler wrote:
Displaced implies that I'm here through some external and undesirable force.
I meant your pride was displaced, hey perhaps it fits your definition too.
Red Stateler wrote:
A country that is so good, that it can afford to put its criminals behind bars where they belong.
Excellent. Thanks for those words of wisdom.
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73Zeppelin wrote:
what is it that the Islamic fundamentalists really want?
Virgins? Lots and lots of virgins?
Red Stateler wrote:
Virgins? Lots and lots of virgins?
Yes! And the end of Western culture, fundamental Islamic rule, religion and law for all! Oooh, oooh, I forgot - death for all infidels also.. And an apology. Can't forget the apology!
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AndyKEnZ wrote:
Maybe recognition for past wrongs made against the Muslim world would be a good starting place.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Yeah, that's going to stop them! They'll simply love us and stop killing us! Hey, I volunteer YOU as the messenger. I say we send you into the Islamic fundamentalist hot-zones with an arm-load of apology laden pamphlets direct from the Great Satan that is the West. I bet Osama will just embrace, kiss, love and hug you to death. Then they'll all drop their guns and suicide vests and militant, fundamentalist ideologies and turn things into a veritable orgy of love for the apologetic West! WOW! I can't believe you figured it out! So simple!!!! But here's a question for you: what is it that the Islamic fundamentalists really want?
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73Zeppelin wrote:
But here's a question for you: what is it that the Islamic fundamentalists really want?
A muslim world, especially one without Jews in it
Philosophy: The art of never getting beyond the concept of life.
TClarke wrote:
A muslim world, especially one without Jews in it
Exactly. Tell that to Mr. AndyKEnZ... But I'm sure apologizing for all our "transgressions" against them will settle us up all nice-like! :rolleyes:
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Red Stateler wrote:
And yet they were in support of him before the bombings and against him immediately afterwards. Strange how that works, huh?
Never heard of floating voters? O right now I understand, it's a foreign concept for you died-in-the-wool red necks isn't it? You'll take any sh** as long as it's from the same neo-cons and not believe anything to the contrary, ever, and when faced with facts you don't like you'll label them as left-wing propaganda. The PP tried to blame it onto ETA, it was obvious it wasn't them to the floating voter, obviously, so they voted with the obvious outcome.
Red Stateler wrote:
Displaced implies that I'm here through some external and undesirable force.
I meant your pride was displaced, hey perhaps it fits your definition too.
Red Stateler wrote:
A country that is so good, that it can afford to put its criminals behind bars where they belong.
Excellent. Thanks for those words of wisdom.
Give it up, dude. Your country of wussies allowed terrorists to dictate your election. You might euphemistically call them "floating voters", but the fact remains: Your socialist candidate won because terrorists told Spain to elect him...And you did.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
I meant your pride was displaced, hey perhaps it fits your definition too.
Why would I be proud of my Spanish blood? That makes absolutely no sense to me...At all.
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AndyKEnZ wrote:
Maybe recognition for past wrongs made against the Muslim world would be a good starting place.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Yeah, that's going to stop them! They'll simply love us and stop killing us! Hey, I volunteer YOU as the messenger. I say we send you into the Islamic fundamentalist hot-zones with an arm-load of apology laden pamphlets direct from the Great Satan that is the West. I bet Osama will just embrace, kiss, love and hug you to death. Then they'll all drop their guns and suicide vests and militant, fundamentalist ideologies and turn things into a veritable orgy of love for the apologetic West! WOW! I can't believe you figured it out! So simple!!!! But here's a question for you: what is it that the Islamic fundamentalists really want?
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Give it up, dude. Your country of wussies allowed terrorists to dictate your election. You might euphemistically call them "floating voters", but the fact remains: Your socialist candidate won because terrorists told Spain to elect him...And you did.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
I meant your pride was displaced, hey perhaps it fits your definition too.
Why would I be proud of my Spanish blood? That makes absolutely no sense to me...At all.
Red Stateler wrote:
Give it up, dude. Your country of wussies allowed terrorists to dictate your election. You might euphemistically call them "floating voters", but the fact remains: Your socialist candidate won because terrorists told Spain to elect him...And you did.
I wonder when Spain will get bombed a second time? I also wonder what the terrorists will want the Spanish to do next? You know, so there "isn't a 3rd time" or anything... If it were me, I'd just make stuff up at random: Colour your flag purple or we'll bomb ya! Make your politicians dance instead of debate! Shut down all your trains between 3pm and 7:13pm on the third Sunday of every 2nd month or....we'll bomb you!
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So you would prefer that they had been successful? You have som unexplained need to be proud of your terrorists? As far as I can tell from the reports, the cars failed to explode because they were discovered before they were due... And as for Glascow, well it looks like it did a fair piece of work on the airport terminal... And you should be embarrassed, but for your post, not your good luck.
Rob Graham wrote:
And as for Glascow, well it looks like it did a fair piece of work on the airport terminal...
I travelled through that terminal in GLA yesterday. It looks like it'll need a new set of doors and some replaced panels that melted a wee bit. Perhaps a coat of paint. It didn't look too bad actually. It is a reasonable sized airport and while repairs are underway it can be worked around quite easily.
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The problem is with fundamentalism; be it Christian or Islamic. As I've mentioned in the past try reading "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" by one of your very own and you might just see why there is anger against your rule.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
The problem is with fundamentalism; be it Christian or Islamic.
Yeah, those Christian fundies. Man, when they bombed that.... oh, hmmm. I mean, when they killed all those...uh, hmmm, Uh, yeah all those Christians who want to institute their will and laws... oh, wait.. Gee, maybe you can remind me of the last act of terrorism by Christians? I can't seem to remember it...
AndyKEnZ wrote:
"Confessions of an Economic Hitman"
:laugh::laugh::laugh: Perkins is a turd. He expects me to believe that he took a 500,000 dollar "bribe" to not publish a book that could have made him a millionaire multiple times over IF IT WERE TRUE? Of course he took the bribe - because all that he writes is a FABRICATION. I know it's false because I'm in the industry and I know better than to believe the slop he's offering. What you (and that Matt Faithfull guy) don't seem to understand is that conspiracy stories are just that - conspiracy STORIES. They're all like designed with an agenda. Take Perkins - he makes a lot of money, but nothing ever comes of his allegations. Why? Because they're not true...where are the investigative committees? The judicial hearings? The international outcry? Not there. All lies... I'm surprised at how gullible you are.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
you might just see why there is anger against your rule.
I didn't know I was in charge! Last I checked (and I'm not even American) I wasn't being ruled by any Americans... I really don't get this communist, Islamic fundamentalist apologetics agenda you're pushing here...if you think it's so great and the West is so evil, why don't you move to Iran/North Korea/Venezuela/China, etc... and write a book extolling the great and wonderful virtues of these societies and cultures so that we all may be enlightened! Do it man! Do it! Make great things happen! Viva la revolucion! -- modified at 10:40 Monday 2nd July, 2007
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Craster wrote:
the driver of the vehicle who, on attempting to fuel the blaze with a can of petrol, managed to set his own trousers on fire. The whole thing wouldn't have looked out of place with Benny Hill music playing in the background.
I travelled through Glasgow Airport yesterday. The building was just a bit singed. It smelled like a BBQ where someone has been a bit overzealous with the lighter fluid.
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Of all the places on earth to try to scare Glasgow has got to be the dumbest. I noticed there was no shortage of passers by who put a boot in. Probably the only reason they put the men out was so they could continue beating ten bells out of them. I guess we're seeing the down side of suicide bombing. It looks like the stock of competant bombers has run a little low. The serious ones must have gone to Afganistan or Iraq. Strangley this was part of the western strategy: If they want to fight better it's on their land. One thing that really bemused me was the use of gas canisters. There is NO WAY that surrounding them with pertrol would cause them to explode. They're built to withstand that. You would have to strap a good amount of explosive to the side of one to get that effect.
Philosophy: The art of never getting beyond the concept of life.
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The problem is with fundamentalism; be it Christian or Islamic. As I've mentioned in the past try reading "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" by one of your very own and you might just see why there is anger against your rule.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
The problem is with fundamentalism; be it Christian or Islamic.
What about atheist fundamentalism[^]?
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AndyKEnZ wrote:
The problem is with fundamentalism; be it Christian or Islamic.
What about atheist fundamentalism[^]?
Not a problem... :->
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AndyKEnZ wrote:
The problem is with fundamentalism; be it Christian or Islamic.
Yeah, those Christian fundies. Man, when they bombed that.... oh, hmmm. I mean, when they killed all those...uh, hmmm, Uh, yeah all those Christians who want to institute their will and laws... oh, wait.. Gee, maybe you can remind me of the last act of terrorism by Christians? I can't seem to remember it...
AndyKEnZ wrote:
"Confessions of an Economic Hitman"
:laugh::laugh::laugh: Perkins is a turd. He expects me to believe that he took a 500,000 dollar "bribe" to not publish a book that could have made him a millionaire multiple times over IF IT WERE TRUE? Of course he took the bribe - because all that he writes is a FABRICATION. I know it's false because I'm in the industry and I know better than to believe the slop he's offering. What you (and that Matt Faithfull guy) don't seem to understand is that conspiracy stories are just that - conspiracy STORIES. They're all like designed with an agenda. Take Perkins - he makes a lot of money, but nothing ever comes of his allegations. Why? Because they're not true...where are the investigative committees? The judicial hearings? The international outcry? Not there. All lies... I'm surprised at how gullible you are.
AndyKEnZ wrote:
you might just see why there is anger against your rule.
I didn't know I was in charge! Last I checked (and I'm not even American) I wasn't being ruled by any Americans... I really don't get this communist, Islamic fundamentalist apologetics agenda you're pushing here...if you think it's so great and the West is so evil, why don't you move to Iran/North Korea/Venezuela/China, etc... and write a book extolling the great and wonderful virtues of these societies and cultures so that we all may be enlightened! Do it man! Do it! Make great things happen! Viva la revolucion! -- modified at 10:40 Monday 2nd July, 2007
73Zeppelin wrote:
Yeah, those Christian fundies. Man, when they bombed that.... oh, hmmm.
Well, there was that one dude 15 years ago who bombed an abortion clinic (and was later convicted by a jury of Christians, but that's not important).
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Doug Goulden wrote:
You are a fool, what are you missing out on? When was the last time some one oppressed you? I must have missed the reports in the media where the jackbooted thugs were kicking in people's doors and dragging them out in the night.....
Uh, wtf, man? I think we agree... :~
Sorry about that, Its a Monday, I meant to respond to Corrina John. You are a wise man CJ is a fool....;)
Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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Of all the places on earth to try to scare Glasgow has got to be the dumbest. I noticed there was no shortage of passers by who put a boot in. Probably the only reason they put the men out was so they could continue beating ten bells out of them. I guess we're seeing the down side of suicide bombing. It looks like the stock of competant bombers has run a little low. The serious ones must have gone to Afganistan or Iraq. Strangley this was part of the western strategy: If they want to fight better it's on their land. One thing that really bemused me was the use of gas canisters. There is NO WAY that surrounding them with pertrol would cause them to explode. They're built to withstand that. You would have to strap a good amount of explosive to the side of one to get that effect.
Philosophy: The art of never getting beyond the concept of life.
Gas canisters - the other day UK Channel 5 tv news demonstrated (in a quarry) the effect an exploding gas canister could have. Anyhow, I have lost count the number of times that the Fire Brigade instruct residents to leave their houses when a local garage (or whatever) has a fire whenever gas canisters of whatever kind are on the premises. Even if they don't blow-up, they take an awful amount of time to cool to a safe condition, that is if they don't behave like a guided missile.
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73Zeppelin wrote:
Yeah, those Christian fundies. Man, when they bombed that.... oh, hmmm.
Well, there was that one dude 15 years ago who bombed an abortion clinic (and was later convicted by a jury of Christians, but that's not important).
Yeah, but it wasn't "organized resistance" against the West...not like Islamic fundamentalism. On another note, I'm learning alot about behaviour on this message board - specifically that it's full of Islamic fundamentalist and communist apologetics. Amazing really. Their Westernculture is being directly assaulted (with the specific intent to destroy it) and they want to start apologizing for things we have apparently done "wrong". Baffling. Baffling. Basically I've learned that if I want something from someone (especially from Spain) I should punch them for no reason, then make my demands and then force them to apologize to me for the non-reason I punched them! Do you find that behaviour as fascinating as I do?
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Repost. Regards, Me. :rose:
73Zeppelin wrote:
Repost.
I think he got your point about the repost thing.
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Seems almost laughable huh?
Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
So laughable some of us don't believe it.;)
Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.
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Yeah, but it wasn't "organized resistance" against the West...not like Islamic fundamentalism. On another note, I'm learning alot about behaviour on this message board - specifically that it's full of Islamic fundamentalist and communist apologetics. Amazing really. Their Westernculture is being directly assaulted (with the specific intent to destroy it) and they want to start apologizing for things we have apparently done "wrong". Baffling. Baffling. Basically I've learned that if I want something from someone (especially from Spain) I should punch them for no reason, then make my demands and then force them to apologize to me for the non-reason I punched them! Do you find that behaviour as fascinating as I do?
73Zeppelin wrote:
Do you find that behaviour as fascinating as I do?
I think self-destruction and self-loathing are leftist traits, though not one that I can understand. It seems to manifest itself in many ways: 1. Environmentalism: It's often suggested that humanity should be subjugated to nature...That humanity' influence (and even population) should be limited. 2. Immigration: Immigrant with cultures specifically different from our own should have preference over those with similar cultures, thus eliminating the predominant culture in the long run. 3. War: Rather than stand up for your country, we should allow others to dictate our politics. If you ask me, I suspect that those feelings come from the fact that leftists reject Natural Law and instead believe that their fundamental rights are derived from society or the state. Somehow, I just think that leads them to believe that they need to completely abandon their personal interests to benefit the state. They don't view themselves as men...But instruments of the collective society. But that's just a guess. I really don't get it.