Another irrefutable argument for creation

Red Stateler

Being completely unfamiliar with the "Drake Equation[^]", I looked into it on Wikipedia. It took me all of 3 seconds looking at the equation to know that it's a pile of BS. It's a string of unknown and unverifiable (through current means) numbers multiplied together to get a number (not a probability) of planets with intelligent life. Michael Chriton's quote at the bottom of the page seems about right to me: "Speaking precisely, the Drake equation is literally meaningless, and has nothing to do with science. I take the hard view that science involves the creation of testable hypotheses. The Drake equation cannot be tested and therefore SETI is not science. SETI is unquestionably a religion."

Lost User

jason_lakewhitney wrote:

Where does it say that it was an apple?

Where does it say it wasn't? Isn't there a famous biblical painting that shows it as an apple?

lost in transition

string name = "" wrote:

You have faith that there is not life on another planet?

I did not state a comment in either direction.

God Bless, Jason

Paul Conrad wrote:

Chuck Norris keeps the hamsters going whenever Chris is gone on vacation. Just stares them down and they keep the servers going

lost in transition

Mike Mullikin wrote:

Where does it say it wasn't?

Where does it say it was?

Mike Mullikin wrote:

Isn't there a famous biblical painting that shows it as an apple?

What painting?

God Bless, Jason

Paul Conrad wrote:

Chuck Norris keeps the hamsters going whenever Chris is gone on vacation. Just stares them down and they keep the servers going

lost in transition

Chris-Kaiser wrote:

At Pentacost the demons were bound. The spirit of truth was poured out amongst all flesh.

Yes and no. After accepting Christ into your life and being filled with the spirit of truth, you then have the authority to bound demons.

Chris-Kaiser wrote:

We only suffer our own actions and the side effects of a poisoned world.

That is pretty much what I had stated.

God Bless, Jason

Paul Conrad wrote:

Chuck Norris keeps the hamsters going whenever Chris is gone on vacation. Just stares them down and they keep the servers going

Lost User

You have all the answers don't you.

The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams

Lost User

I have often wondered how would you react, being a christian, if microbial life was discovered on Mars or Europa, or if a planet was discovered around another star that had life? Wouldn't that discount the Genesis creation story?

The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams

Chris Kaiser

Where is it written in the bible that if you are not saved then demons can blight you? What you are saying with regard to demons, if you are not saved, is nowhere to be found in the bible. This is all hyperbole.

Red Stateler

No, but I have a good nose for BS.

Red Stateler

The Garden of Eden has to be somewhere, doesn't it?

lost in transition

string name = "" wrote:

I have often wondered how would you react

Why are you wondering about me?

string name = "" wrote:

Wouldn't that discount the Genesis creation story?

How would it discount the Genesis story?

God Bless, Jason

Paul Conrad wrote:

Chuck Norris keeps the hamsters going whenever Chris is gone on vacation. Just stares them down and they keep the servers going

lost in transition

Before I answer please clarify:

Chris-Kaiser wrote:

blight

Do you mean attack?

Chris-Kaiser wrote:

What you are saying with regard to demons, if you are not saved, is nowhere to be found in the bible.

What is the question?

God Bless, Jason

Paul Conrad wrote:

Chuck Norris keeps the hamsters going whenever Chris is gone on vacation. Just stares them down and they keep the servers going

James L Thomson

As long as we're posting random inflammatory quotes from religious nuts. "Idiots, the lame, the blind, the dumb, are men in whom the devils have established themselves: and all the physicians who heal these infirmities, as though they proceeded from natural causes, are ignorant blockheads…." - Martin Luther The more things change...

Lost User

jason_lakewhitney wrote:

Where does it say it was?

jason_lakewhitney wrote:

What painting?

What difference do these details make?? :confused: Apple, pear, orange, kiwi,... :rolleyes:

Chris Kaiser

Well, if I must. But a cursory lookup of Blight should have been enough. A blight is akin to cancer. You had specifically mentioned cancer. That you could get cancer from demon actions against you. I call bullshit. This is a fallacious interpretation of scripture. And that's all it can be is an interpretation. I am asking you directly what verses of scripture that you draw your conclusions from. The mind of man is unassailable by demons both through the spirit of truth that poured out on Pentacost and by the fact that Jesus quenched the rebellion through his incarnation. He bound them. He conquered. So, quote me some scripture. This is something that always bugs me, alot of fellow Christians, including many pastors, read more into scripture than what's there.

Lost User

I was refering to christians in general. I say it would discount the genesis story because the only life it mentions that God created was humans/animals.

The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. - John Adams

lintybits

jason_lakewhitney wrote:

Let me answer your question like this: If you are not a Christian, a non smoker, and generally a nice guy, you can still get cancer. Sounds wrong doesn't it.

Yeah it sounds wrong, but it happens. Does that mean the only possible explanation is Adam? I'm familiar with the genesis creation story, but I don't remember the timeline. How long of a period was it between man being cast out of the garden & the birth of christ?

lost in transition

lintybits wrote:

How long of a period

~4000 years

God Bless, Jason

Paul Conrad wrote:

Chuck Norris keeps the hamsters going whenever Chris is gone on vacation. Just stares them down and they keep the servers going

Matthew Faithfull

No precise time line can be established from the text because the genealogies don't necessarily include every generation. The term usually translated 'son of' is equivalent to 'descendent of' or perhaps even 'of the tribe of'. On the other hand if you insert 1000 years for each step where a direct father son relationship can't be established you're still stretching to get more than a few tens of thousands of years. This fits easily enough with the unadjusted earth age data from ice and sediment cores of around about 25000 years. You did ask and I fully expect to get flamed and deluged with links to learned, bearded demi gods insisting on figures of billions of years. As you might guess I have no interest in such Iatolahs. :)

Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

Chris Kaiser

Then please do explain petrified wood and its process of becoming opals.

This statement was never false.