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An Irish company will today reveal controversial technology that allegedly defies basic laws of physics to produce free power. Steorn, which is based in Dublin, claims to have discovered a method of creating clean, constant energy, which it claims could end the global fuel crisis. Article[^] Orbo site[^] I'd like to see this in action. Has anyone got any extra info on this? Video clips? Edit: YouTube[^] I seriously hope this is for real coz it's just so cool. -- modified at 9:08 Wednesday 4th July, 2007
I think I'm going to call my next project "Chuck Norris". It's a sure way to guarantee it's unbreakable.
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But fortunately we have the nanny-state politicians who can step in to protect us poor stupid consumers, most of whom would not know a JVM from a frozen chicken. Bruce Pierson
It's not possible to 'defy basic laws of physics'. Either the physics as we understand it is wrong, or it's a hoax. You can't shake your fist at the universe and announce you want things to work differently.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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It's not possible to 'defy basic laws of physics'. Either the physics as we understand it is wrong, or it's a hoax. You can't shake your fist at the universe and announce you want things to work differently.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Note that it's an Irish company.:-D
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It's not possible to 'defy basic laws of physics'. Either the physics as we understand it is wrong, or it's a hoax. You can't shake your fist at the universe and announce you want things to work differently.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Christian Graus wrote:
You can't shake your fist at the universe and announce you want things to work differently.
I disagree; you can certainly do that. I would be surprised, however, if the response was anything but derision and laughter...
Software Zen:
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An Irish company will today reveal controversial technology that allegedly defies basic laws of physics to produce free power. Steorn, which is based in Dublin, claims to have discovered a method of creating clean, constant energy, which it claims could end the global fuel crisis. Article[^] Orbo site[^] I'd like to see this in action. Has anyone got any extra info on this? Video clips? Edit: YouTube[^] I seriously hope this is for real coz it's just so cool. -- modified at 9:08 Wednesday 4th July, 2007
I think I'm going to call my next project "Chuck Norris". It's a sure way to guarantee it's unbreakable.
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But fortunately we have the nanny-state politicians who can step in to protect us poor stupid consumers, most of whom would not know a JVM from a frozen chicken. Bruce Pierson
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It's not possible to 'defy basic laws of physics'. Either the physics as we understand it is wrong, or it's a hoax. You can't shake your fist at the universe and announce you want things to work differently.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Christian Graus wrote:
'defy basic laws of physics'
I think they're just using the phrase to hype the technology.
Christian Graus wrote:
Either the physics as we understand it is wrong, or it's a hoax.
I'm trying to figure that out myself.
I think I'm going to call my next project "Chuck Norris". It's a sure way to guarantee it's unbreakable.
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But fortunately we have the nanny-state politicians who can step in to protect us poor stupid consumers, most of whom would not know a JVM from a frozen chicken. Bruce Pierson
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Christian Graus wrote:
You can't shake your fist at the universe and announce you want things to work differently.
I disagree; you can certainly do that. I would be surprised, however, if the response was anything but derision and laughter...
Software Zen:
delete this;LOL - you are, of course, correct.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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An Irish company will today reveal controversial technology that allegedly defies basic laws of physics to produce free power. Steorn, which is based in Dublin, claims to have discovered a method of creating clean, constant energy, which it claims could end the global fuel crisis. Article[^] Orbo site[^] I'd like to see this in action. Has anyone got any extra info on this? Video clips? Edit: YouTube[^] I seriously hope this is for real coz it's just so cool. -- modified at 9:08 Wednesday 4th July, 2007
I think I'm going to call my next project "Chuck Norris". It's a sure way to guarantee it's unbreakable.
• • •
But fortunately we have the nanny-state politicians who can step in to protect us poor stupid consumers, most of whom would not know a JVM from a frozen chicken. Bruce Pierson
Dave Sexton wrote:
Has anyone got any extra info on this? Video clips?
Sorry, was something not clear in the article (which was dated today)? Today the invention will go on public display for the first time with a live working demonstration to be streamed on the internet from 6pm tonight.
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Dave Sexton wrote:
Has anyone got any extra info on this? Video clips?
Sorry, was something not clear in the article (which was dated today)? Today the invention will go on public display for the first time with a live working demonstration to be streamed on the internet from 6pm tonight.
J4amieC wrote:
streamed on the internet
It's a big internet & no url was supplied. I checked their site & it said nothing about a stream tonight, I checked kinetica's site & found nothing there either. So, yeah, something was not clear.
I think I'm going to call my next project "Chuck Norris". It's a sure way to guarantee it's unbreakable.
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But fortunately we have the nanny-state politicians who can step in to protect us poor stupid consumers, most of whom would not know a JVM from a frozen chicken. Bruce Pierson
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An Irish company will today reveal controversial technology that allegedly defies basic laws of physics to produce free power. Steorn, which is based in Dublin, claims to have discovered a method of creating clean, constant energy, which it claims could end the global fuel crisis. Article[^] Orbo site[^] I'd like to see this in action. Has anyone got any extra info on this? Video clips? Edit: YouTube[^] I seriously hope this is for real coz it's just so cool. -- modified at 9:08 Wednesday 4th July, 2007
I think I'm going to call my next project "Chuck Norris". It's a sure way to guarantee it's unbreakable.
• • •
But fortunately we have the nanny-state politicians who can step in to protect us poor stupid consumers, most of whom would not know a JVM from a frozen chicken. Bruce Pierson
I must admit to being sceptical. There have been many "free energy" claims in the past. The fact that they pitched straight to the media is concerning as well. More importantly, Steorn claims that while several PhDs have validated the practical application of the product, they won't go public because of the controversy.
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It's not possible to 'defy basic laws of physics'. Either the physics as we understand it is wrong, or it's a hoax. You can't shake your fist at the universe and announce you want things to work differently.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
Christian Graus wrote:
You can't shake your fist at the universe and announce you want things to work differently.
That deserves a 5.
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J4amieC wrote:
streamed on the internet
It's a big internet & no url was supplied. I checked their site & it said nothing about a stream tonight, I checked kinetica's site & found nothing there either. So, yeah, something was not clear.
I think I'm going to call my next project "Chuck Norris". It's a sure way to guarantee it's unbreakable.
• • •
But fortunately we have the nanny-state politicians who can step in to protect us poor stupid consumers, most of whom would not know a JVM from a frozen chicken. Bruce Pierson
have a look on the Wiki page[^] Given that external supply of energy by an electromagnetic source is a really easy cheat I would be beyond sceptical of this.
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It's not possible to 'defy basic laws of physics'. Either the physics as we understand it is wrong, or it's a hoax. You can't shake your fist at the universe and announce you want things to work differently.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
The universe is full of surprises, and we have a very very very limited understanding of it.....
SG
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I must admit to being sceptical. There have been many "free energy" claims in the past. The fact that they pitched straight to the media is concerning as well. More importantly, Steorn claims that while several PhDs have validated the practical application of the product, they won't go public because of the controversy.
Please visit http://www.readytogiveup.com/ and do something special today. Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
Perhaps they're not engineering PHDs? A friend of mine has a PHD and what she doesn't know about the workings of anything technical could fill so much storage as to cause a worldwide shortage :-)
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An Irish company will today reveal controversial technology that allegedly defies basic laws of physics to produce free power. Steorn, which is based in Dublin, claims to have discovered a method of creating clean, constant energy, which it claims could end the global fuel crisis. Article[^] Orbo site[^] I'd like to see this in action. Has anyone got any extra info on this? Video clips? Edit: YouTube[^] I seriously hope this is for real coz it's just so cool. -- modified at 9:08 Wednesday 4th July, 2007
I think I'm going to call my next project "Chuck Norris". It's a sure way to guarantee it's unbreakable.
• • •
But fortunately we have the nanny-state politicians who can step in to protect us poor stupid consumers, most of whom would not know a JVM from a frozen chicken. Bruce Pierson
I spent several months (while I 'worked' for a stupid company that failed to give me any work but expected me to turn up every day) researching this whole area and if I remeber rightly Steorn was just starting up 2 years ago when I moved on to do some real work. The only working 'perpetual motion' machine I ever came across which probably works off daily thermal fluctuations or ground vibration is the Finsrud device[^], actaully a work of art in more ways than one. :-D I'll look into the links you posted as I'm on my sick bed today.
Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.
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Put this in the bin with anti-gravity boots, xray goggles and perpetual motion machines - got to be a publicity stunt of some sort because its not free energy!
Steve_pqr wrote:
anti-gravity boots, xray goggles
Hey, you must have been living under a rock, I've been using these for several years to watch girls "dessous" without being noticed by levitating behind a tree for years.
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Steve_pqr wrote:
anti-gravity boots, xray goggles
Hey, you must have been living under a rock, I've been using these for several years to watch girls "dessous" without being noticed by levitating behind a tree for years.
http://www.readytogiveup.com/[^] - Do something special today.
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I spent several months (while I 'worked' for a stupid company that failed to give me any work but expected me to turn up every day) researching this whole area and if I remeber rightly Steorn was just starting up 2 years ago when I moved on to do some real work. The only working 'perpetual motion' machine I ever came across which probably works off daily thermal fluctuations or ground vibration is the Finsrud device[^], actaully a work of art in more ways than one. :-D I'll look into the links you posted as I'm on my sick bed today.
Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.
Matthew Faithfull wrote:
The only working 'perpetual motion' machine I ever came across which probably works off daily thermal fluctuations or ground vibration is the Finsrud device
Someone stood there and filmed this for 40mins??? Interesting device though (for the first few mins anyway) notice how the ball nudges the pendulums every time it goes round, its enclosed (in a vacuum to reduce friction?) hot lamps at the top are a heat source (thermal effects?) and the pendulum bobs are very close to the bottom plate under which you can't see (electromagnets?) Its probably a very low friction device - would be interesting to see how it is started up...
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Perhaps they're not engineering PHDs? A friend of mine has a PHD and what she doesn't know about the workings of anything technical could fill so much storage as to cause a worldwide shortage :-)
'--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd
Duncan Edwards Jones wrote:
Perhaps they're not engineering PHDs?
I like the idea of somebody with a doctorate in fine arts or classical literature being asked to judge the validity of the technology.
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The universe is full of surprises, and we have a very very very limited understanding of it.....
SG
Sure - you can defy our current understanding of the universe, I thought I said that. You just can't defy the way things *are*, you can only prove that we didn't understand it fully before.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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Matthew Faithfull wrote:
The only working 'perpetual motion' machine I ever came across which probably works off daily thermal fluctuations or ground vibration is the Finsrud device
Someone stood there and filmed this for 40mins??? Interesting device though (for the first few mins anyway) notice how the ball nudges the pendulums every time it goes round, its enclosed (in a vacuum to reduce friction?) hot lamps at the top are a heat source (thermal effects?) and the pendulum bobs are very close to the bottom plate under which you can't see (electromagnets?) Its probably a very low friction device - would be interesting to see how it is started up...
Steve_pqr wrote:
Someone stood there and filmed this for 40mins???
If you went all the way to the back end of Norway to see it you'd want a decent amount of film to I guess :laugh:
Steve_pqr wrote:
(in a vacuum to reduce friction?)
No it's not in a vacuum as far as I know. It certainly was not when it first got known.
Steve_pqr wrote:
(thermal effects?)
I don't think so. It was orginally without a glass case or overhead lighting when first demonstrated. I don't suppose upward air flow over it does any harm though.:)
Steve_pqr wrote:
(electromagnets?)
Again possible but unlikely as it was originally just sitting on a plain concrete floor in a basement. Since then the plinth or stand has been much reduced, I suppose people thought it contained batteries or something. I doesn't go on for ever by the way so it's not strictly perpetual. It stops randomly sometimes after as long as 19 days and needs restarting. Someone with better math/physics than me did an estimate of the number of joules you'd need just to create the friction based clicking and rumbling constantly for 19 days let alone keep the ball moving and it was considerably more than can easily be explained. My guess is Mr Finsrud's basement might be on a geological instability a bit like the tower at Pizza which is gently rocking the machine perhaps over a period of several hours or days and this what it's tapping into. Just a guess though.:-D
Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.