Developer's Age !
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Oops, forgot the smiley... Here it comes: ;P
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That's OK, also I have modified the post to not be a Discriminatory ;)
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Dear I think the programming is very exhausting process, so I think the max age I can do this job is 35 after that I think team leading and project management will be more suitable for me. At last I would thank you for posting this interesting issue that I was in needs to here other voices about it. thank you Ahmed A. Korany
The DevMan wrote:
I think the programming is very exhausting process
Compared to what? Coding is a cakewalk compared to paving rodes and building houses. :)
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I didn't say that old developers are not good, absolutely they are top-notch, I speak about career perspective
Kareem Shaker http://cairocafe.blogspot.com
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Dear I think the programming is very exhausting process, so I think the max age I can do this job is 35 after that I think team leading and project management will be more suitable for me. At last I would thank you for posting this interesting issue that I was in needs to here other voices about it. thank you Ahmed A. Korany
The DevMan wrote:
I think the programming is very exhausting process, so I think the max age I can do this job is 35 after that I think team leading and project management will be more suitable for me.
Wimp! ;P
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The DevMan wrote:
I think the programming is very exhausting process, so I think the max age I can do this job is 35 after that I think team leading and project management will be more suitable for me.
Wimp! ;P
Rob Graham wrote:
Wimp! ;P
:laugh: Like Nemanja said below, Developers are like wine: the older, the better. :-D
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Hello, Just wanted to know if there are people out there willing to complete their lives in programming, in other words, how do you plan your career vs. your age, I have seen developers aged at 40s and 50s, do you think that the one should quit development at a certain age and shift to technical consultations or project management, and if you are old, and still into code, does this make you small or big ( I think it varies from one country to another ) ? Please share your experience here !
Kareem Shaker http://cairocafe.blogspot.com
I started programming professionally in my mid-30's precisely because it seemed to be something you could continue to do when you were too damned old to do anything else useful. All of the programmers I knew back in those days were all middle aged and seemed to be doing quite well. I challange the notion that programming is a profession for the young. In fact, it is an excellent occupation for older people. I intend to program until they find me dead at my keyboard sometime around age 95 or so.
Pardon Libby!
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Dear I think the programming is very exhausting process, so I think the max age I can do this job is 35 after that I think team leading and project management will be more suitable for me. At last I would thank you for posting this interesting issue that I was in needs to here other voices about it. thank you Ahmed A. Korany
I am 38, and I disagree :-)
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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I am 38, and I disagree :-)
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
How was it yesterday?
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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Hello, Just wanted to know if there are people out there willing to complete their lives in programming, in other words, how do you plan your career vs. your age, I have seen developers aged at 40s and 50s, do you think that the one should quit development at a certain age and shift to technical consultations or project management, and if you are old, and still into code, does this make you small or big ( I think it varies from one country to another ) ? Please share your experience here !
Kareem Shaker http://cairocafe.blogspot.com
If I could (all things being the same) I'd keep coding until I retired and I'm 32 now.
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Hello, Just wanted to know if there are people out there willing to complete their lives in programming, in other words, how do you plan your career vs. your age, I have seen developers aged at 40s and 50s, do you think that the one should quit development at a certain age and shift to technical consultations or project management, and if you are old, and still into code, does this make you small or big ( I think it varies from one country to another ) ? Please share your experience here !
Kareem Shaker http://cairocafe.blogspot.com
As long as the skills are kept up to date, older (more experienced) is better. But that experience won't matter much if it's all in Cobol and the company needs a Website.
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As long as the skills are kept up to date, older (more experienced) is better. But that experience won't matter much if it's all in Cobol and the company needs a Website.
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
long as the skills are kept up to date, older (more experienced) is better.
I agree, and older developers with loads of experience can prove to be valuable mentors to the younger developers.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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How was it yesterday?
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
Aamazing. Today will be the best - Great White/Jackyl/Queensryche/Twisted Sister. yesterday was the weakest day, but still a great time.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
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Hello, Just wanted to know if there are people out there willing to complete their lives in programming, in other words, how do you plan your career vs. your age, I have seen developers aged at 40s and 50s, do you think that the one should quit development at a certain age and shift to technical consultations or project management, and if you are old, and still into code, does this make you small or big ( I think it varies from one country to another ) ? Please share your experience here !
Kareem Shaker http://cairocafe.blogspot.com
Kareem Shaker wrote:
I think it varies from one country to another
Yes, I think that's true. The impression I get from my developer friends outside North America (specifically those in India and Sri Lanka) is that a "developer" position ranks lower than "project manager". IOW, a developer is expected to eventually grow into an engineering manager who oversees other developers and the execution of projects. While that's certainly a viable career path, it's by no means the only one. Software shops in the US/Canada offer significant opportunities for developers who prefer to remain closely associated with design and implementation and have no desire to manage. Friends of mine who work for Google and Yahoo (in India) say this is also true of their employers. I expect this may also be the case for companies in Europe, but don't have any first-hand experience of that. /ravi
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Aamazing. Today will be the best - Great White/Jackyl/Queensryche/Twisted Sister. yesterday was the weakest day, but still a great time.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )
That's cool. Have fun today :-D
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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Dear I think the programming is very exhausting process, so I think the max age I can do this job is 35 after that I think team leading and project management will be more suitable for me. At last I would thank you for posting this interesting issue that I was in needs to here other voices about it. thank you Ahmed A. Korany
How did you come up with the number 35? :rolleyes: The last time I thought 35 was old I was 16. I've worked with programmers who took up programming after retirement. Some were good, some struggled - no different than 20 year olds. Some newbies just have gray hair. I'm 43 - too old to make it as a rock-star so that will remain a hobby and coding is all I plan on doing :) Cheers, Mark
Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ "Great job team! Head back to base for debriefing and cocktails."
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Kareem Shaker wrote:
I think it varies from one country to another
Yes, I think that's true. The impression I get from my developer friends outside North America (specifically those in India and Sri Lanka) is that a "developer" position ranks lower than "project manager". IOW, a developer is expected to eventually grow into an engineering manager who oversees other developers and the execution of projects. While that's certainly a viable career path, it's by no means the only one. Software shops in the US/Canada offer significant opportunities for developers who prefer to remain closely associated with design and implementation and have no desire to manage. Friends of mine who work for Google and Yahoo (in India) say this is also true of their employers. I expect this may also be the case for companies in Europe, but don't have any first-hand experience of that. /ravi
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Yes Ravi, I think what you've said is quite right, in some specific countries being a developer is a lower rank compared to project manager, however, I believe also that if you work for a good employer who cares about resources, and invest in them, this would make a developer to evolve, for example in Middle East most of the employers are task-oriented, they don't give a da*n about the developers, I believe also if the employer cares about the resources as much as he cares about the projects delivery , this would make a difference, I think also up to some age you can still write code, and kill yourself to get the job done, or to study a new technology, but when you get somehow old, get a family and kids, suffer from back pain, and I am sure 90% of developers do, I think you will start thinking about having some rest, especially our job is restless, and from time to time, we get new technologies, that we have to learn and master, otherwise we'll be behind!
Kareem Shaker http://cairocafe.blogspot.com
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Hello, Just wanted to know if there are people out there willing to complete their lives in programming, in other words, how do you plan your career vs. your age, I have seen developers aged at 40s and 50s, do you think that the one should quit development at a certain age and shift to technical consultations or project management, and if you are old, and still into code, does this make you small or big ( I think it varies from one country to another ) ? Please share your experience here !
Kareem Shaker http://cairocafe.blogspot.com
once a coder always a coder.. I enjoy facing new chanllenges everyday..
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once a coder always a coder.. I enjoy facing new chanllenges everyday..
Hallo, I think coding is the most stupid thing you could do in your live. As sooner you quit, as better it is Unfortunatelly I am still in coding but I am trying to avoid coding as much as I can. By the way I am much more than 35 years old.... Being a soldier is the much better choice... long time ago....:( chris
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Hello, Just wanted to know if there are people out there willing to complete their lives in programming, in other words, how do you plan your career vs. your age, I have seen developers aged at 40s and 50s, do you think that the one should quit development at a certain age and shift to technical consultations or project management, and if you are old, and still into code, does this make you small or big ( I think it varies from one country to another ) ? Please share your experience here !
Kareem Shaker http://cairocafe.blogspot.com
As for as the profession is concerned age matters till we can code, code it doesnot stopped till he/she likes. I will code as long as i like. So age is not at all a constraint for programming i used to program a lot apart from my office works.
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Hello, Just wanted to know if there are people out there willing to complete their lives in programming, in other words, how do you plan your career vs. your age, I have seen developers aged at 40s and 50s, do you think that the one should quit development at a certain age and shift to technical consultations or project management, and if you are old, and still into code, does this make you small or big ( I think it varies from one country to another ) ? Please share your experience here !
Kareem Shaker http://cairocafe.blogspot.com