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  • T Tim Carmichael

    I agree that changes are needed, and I have no problem with your suggestions. As someone who posts, but doesn't write articles, I am pleased to see that you are considering access based on posting and answering questions. As far as abuse goes, most systems will be abused by a minority. This then, is a general appeal to 'gold' members to not abuse their position. Thanks, Tim

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    Rage
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    Tim Carmichael wrote:

    As someone who posts, but doesn't write articles, I am pleased to see that you are considering access based on posting and answering questions.

    I second that.

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    • C Chris Maunder

      I'm getting as tired as everyone else of the crap that is going on so I'm proposing the following changes: - I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam - Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam - Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages" Two more thoughts: 1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be? 2. I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles. You post rubbish and you go down. The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around. The ones who have interesting stories, incitefulinsightful comments, are great moderators of the mood, and whose participation makes CodeProject what it is. Suggestions? -- modified at 10:20 Wednesday 18th July, 2007

      cheers, Chris Maunder

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      Mircea Grelus
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      Chris Maunder wrote:

      1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be?

      Since the current system of becoming a gold member is time since registration, I think this could be abused in the long run. It would probably be a good idea to change this, or start an additional ranking system based on high votes from currently ranked members. Besides the current Silver/Gold/Platinum in time this would generate another rank system based of actual activity in the forums. And when this additional system will become pretty consistent, rights could be given to users based on this ranking which is closer to the truth of the actual activity of the user. I think a long term solution is needed for this problem because we've had it before and it's going to be there for us in the future too.

      Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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      • C Chris Maunder

        I'm getting as tired as everyone else of the crap that is going on so I'm proposing the following changes: - I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam - Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam - Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages" Two more thoughts: 1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be? 2. I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles. You post rubbish and you go down. The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around. The ones who have interesting stories, incitefulinsightful comments, are great moderators of the mood, and whose participation makes CodeProject what it is. Suggestions? -- modified at 10:20 Wednesday 18th July, 2007

        cheers, Chris Maunder

        CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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        Chris Maunder wrote:

        The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around. The ones who have interesting stories, incitefulinsightful comments, are great moderators of the mood, and whose participation makes CodeProject what it is. Suggestions?

        Cake.

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        • C Chris Maunder

          I'm getting as tired as everyone else of the crap that is going on so I'm proposing the following changes: - I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam - Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam - Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages" Two more thoughts: 1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be? 2. I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles. You post rubbish and you go down. The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around. The ones who have interesting stories, incitefulinsightful comments, are great moderators of the mood, and whose participation makes CodeProject what it is. Suggestions? -- modified at 10:20 Wednesday 18th July, 2007

          cheers, Chris Maunder

          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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          Corinna John
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          Thanks a lot...

          Chris Maunder wrote:

          I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button.

          It should be accessible only by members with a status that cannot be achieved by waiting, downloading and posting rubbish. The only status they don't get by waiting is Platinum. We need a new ranking based on - posted answers in the programming forum - articles with rating 3+ - to reward the nice loungers: average score of the member's Lounge postings

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          • C Chris Maunder

            I'm getting as tired as everyone else of the crap that is going on so I'm proposing the following changes: - I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam - Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam - Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages" Two more thoughts: 1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be? 2. I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles. You post rubbish and you go down. The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around. The ones who have interesting stories, incitefulinsightful comments, are great moderators of the mood, and whose participation makes CodeProject what it is. Suggestions? -- modified at 10:20 Wednesday 18th July, 2007

            cheers, Chris Maunder

            CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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            Prakash Nadar
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            Chris Maunder wrote:

            - Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam

            But you should change the way silver and gold are awarded, just being registered for more than 1 year should not increase the level.

            Chris Maunder wrote:

            - Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day

            good.

            Chris Maunder wrote:

            - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages"

            ok.

            Chris Maunder wrote:

            I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be?

            yes kicked but not permanentely maybe for a day or something like that.

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            • C Chris Maunder

              I'm getting as tired as everyone else of the crap that is going on so I'm proposing the following changes: - I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam - Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam - Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages" Two more thoughts: 1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be? 2. I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles. You post rubbish and you go down. The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around. The ones who have interesting stories, incitefulinsightful comments, are great moderators of the mood, and whose participation makes CodeProject what it is. Suggestions? -- modified at 10:20 Wednesday 18th July, 2007

              cheers, Chris Maunder

              CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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              Daniel Turini
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              Chris Maunder wrote:

              1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be?

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              • C Chris Maunder

                I'm getting as tired as everyone else of the crap that is going on so I'm proposing the following changes: - I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam - Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam - Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages" Two more thoughts: 1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be? 2. I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles. You post rubbish and you go down. The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around. The ones who have interesting stories, incitefulinsightful comments, are great moderators of the mood, and whose participation makes CodeProject what it is. Suggestions? -- modified at 10:20 Wednesday 18th July, 2007

                cheers, Chris Maunder

                CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                Vikram A Punathambekar
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                Chris Maunder wrote:

                Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam

                Make that gold and above. There are heaps of them anyway....

                Chris Maunder wrote:

                Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute

                I thought this was in place since last month?

                Chris Maunder wrote:

                I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be?

                I'm tempted to say 'Great idea!' but sadly it's going to be abused. Maybe you can make it accessible to Platinum members only - there are only a few of them, and they're all generally good apples.

                Chris Maunder wrote:

                I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles.

                Again, this is going to be HEAVILY abused. Point #3 mitigates this abuse to a certain extent, but if you want to see an example of this abuse, I suggest you look at the votes I've been garnering in the C# forum. I don't give a damn what happens in the Lounge, but I do my best to help people in small ways in the C# forum, and some arsehole is dutifully voting every post of mine down. That is abuse in my book. :|

                Cheers, Vıkram.


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                • C Corinna John

                  Thanks a lot...

                  Chris Maunder wrote:

                  I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button.

                  It should be accessible only by members with a status that cannot be achieved by waiting, downloading and posting rubbish. The only status they don't get by waiting is Platinum. We need a new ranking based on - posted answers in the programming forum - articles with rating 3+ - to reward the nice loungers: average score of the member's Lounge postings

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                  Vikram A Punathambekar
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                  I mostly agree, but why should only articles with a rating of 3+ be considered? Surely poor (and pathetic) articles should be given the thumbs down?

                  Cheers, Vıkram.


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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    I'm getting as tired as everyone else of the crap that is going on so I'm proposing the following changes: - I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam - Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam - Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages" Two more thoughts: 1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be? 2. I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles. You post rubbish and you go down. The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around. The ones who have interesting stories, incitefulinsightful comments, are great moderators of the mood, and whose participation makes CodeProject what it is. Suggestions? -- modified at 10:20 Wednesday 18th July, 2007

                    cheers, Chris Maunder

                    CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                    code frog 0
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                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                    - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages"

                    I don't like this mainly because there are some members here who have invested a ton of quality time here. The message count is always a fun topic when someone brings up CG's messages in the lounge for example. It's just friggin amazing.

                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                    1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be?

                    I think this is a great idea but it should be reset every day. Banning shouldn't be permanent. What I think would be really great is if you do get banned for the day any messages you posted that day don't count towards your message count at all. Getting banned results in an automatic subtraction of 10 messages from your total message count in your profile.

                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                    2. I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles. You post rubbish and you go down. The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around. The ones who have interesting stories, incitefulinsightful comments, are great moderators of the mood, and whose participation makes CodeProject what it is. Suggestions?

                    If the "Kick" button does it's job you shouldn't really need to make any changes here. The current status system seems to be adequate.

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      I'm getting as tired as everyone else of the crap that is going on so I'm proposing the following changes: - I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam - Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam - Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages" Two more thoughts: 1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be? 2. I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles. You post rubbish and you go down. The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around. The ones who have interesting stories, incitefulinsightful comments, are great moderators of the mood, and whose participation makes CodeProject what it is. Suggestions? -- modified at 10:20 Wednesday 18th July, 2007

                      cheers, Chris Maunder

                      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                      lost in transition
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                      You're the boss handle it the way you see fit. I'm still going to hang around.


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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        I'm getting as tired as everyone else of the crap that is going on so I'm proposing the following changes: - I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam - Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam - Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages" Two more thoughts: 1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be? 2. I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles. You post rubbish and you go down. The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around. The ones who have interesting stories, incitefulinsightful comments, are great moderators of the mood, and whose participation makes CodeProject what it is. Suggestions? -- modified at 10:20 Wednesday 18th July, 2007

                        cheers, Chris Maunder

                        CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                        Bert delaVega
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                        Instead of just a "kick" button, I think you should have a jailhouse type of area with suspension of posting ability. After multiple offenses, they're kicked off the site for good. Also, rename the lounge to "Off Topic Lounge" to maybe cut down on posts going to the wrong place. I also think the idea of ranking based on posts and articles is a good idea. Some people enjoy helping others in the forums but don't write articles. Others write articles but don't post.

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                        • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                          Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam

                          Make that gold and above. There are heaps of them anyway....

                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                          Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute

                          I thought this was in place since last month?

                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                          I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be?

                          I'm tempted to say 'Great idea!' but sadly it's going to be abused. Maybe you can make it accessible to Platinum members only - there are only a few of them, and they're all generally good apples.

                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                          I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles.

                          Again, this is going to be HEAVILY abused. Point #3 mitigates this abuse to a certain extent, but if you want to see an example of this abuse, I suggest you look at the votes I've been garnering in the C# forum. I don't give a damn what happens in the Lounge, but I do my best to help people in small ways in the C# forum, and some arsehole is dutifully voting every post of mine down. That is abuse in my book. :|

                          Cheers, Vıkram.


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                          Mircea Grelus
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                          Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                          oting every post of mine down

                          Yes this is an issue that is really disturbing. I'm not saying it is a big issue in the Lounge but it is in the programming forums. Platinum members should be given the doubtful rights right now, like kicking out of the Lounge for say like 1 week and it should be a must to provide a reason for doing it, so that the person is aware of what went wrong.

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                          • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                            Chris Maunder wrote:

                            Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam

                            Make that gold and above. There are heaps of them anyway....

                            Chris Maunder wrote:

                            Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute

                            I thought this was in place since last month?

                            Chris Maunder wrote:

                            I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be?

                            I'm tempted to say 'Great idea!' but sadly it's going to be abused. Maybe you can make it accessible to Platinum members only - there are only a few of them, and they're all generally good apples.

                            Chris Maunder wrote:

                            I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles.

                            Again, this is going to be HEAVILY abused. Point #3 mitigates this abuse to a certain extent, but if you want to see an example of this abuse, I suggest you look at the votes I've been garnering in the C# forum. I don't give a damn what happens in the Lounge, but I do my best to help people in small ways in the C# forum, and some arsehole is dutifully voting every post of mine down. That is abuse in my book. :|

                            Cheers, Vıkram.


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                            Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                            I don't give a damn what happens in the Lounge

                            Mmmh... maybe not, but you clearly fall in the category of

                            Chris wrote:

                            The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around.

                            so you'd be awarded anyway !

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                              I'm getting as tired as everyone else of the crap that is going on so I'm proposing the following changes: - I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam - Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam - Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages" Two more thoughts: 1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be? 2. I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles. You post rubbish and you go down. The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around. The ones who have interesting stories, incitefulinsightful comments, are great moderators of the mood, and whose participation makes CodeProject what it is. Suggestions? -- modified at 10:20 Wednesday 18th July, 2007

                              cheers, Chris Maunder

                              CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                              Gary Kirkham
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                              A kick button would be OK only if it wasn't a permanent action. I think that after some time (TBD), the person should be given another chance. There also wouldn't be anything to stop someone from creating a new account every time they get kicked. I do think that the kick button would be abused to some degree and I don't think there is any way to avoid it.

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                                Gary Kirkham
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                                Unless you get kicked. :)

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                                • C Chris Maunder

                                  I'm getting as tired as everyone else of the crap that is going on so I'm proposing the following changes: - I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam - Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam - Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages" Two more thoughts: 1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be? 2. I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles. You post rubbish and you go down. The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around. The ones who have interesting stories, incitefulinsightful comments, are great moderators of the mood, and whose participation makes CodeProject what it is. Suggestions? -- modified at 10:20 Wednesday 18th July, 2007

                                  cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                  Ed Poore
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                                  Chris Maunder wrote:

                                  Kick this person out of the lounge

                                  It's a good idea but there are too many Gold members I feel who haven't deserved that status, perhaps before this is implemented the way status is achieved should be thought out but as of yet I cannot think of a way to do this because you have people such as Marc who's posted literally hundreds of articles and messages but also just as valuable people like Jeffrey who've posted thousands of messages but due to (laziness) the nature of their work they can't post articles. At least if it were limited to Platinum status, ok a lot of useful people won't be able to Kick people, but at least it's very unlikely to be abused.  Plus for those of us who can't kick people hopefully we have enough respect with those who do so that we can suggest kicks and it could be put to a vote by those Platinum members to get other people's views. Perhaps a page which listed those people who have special priveledges, e.g. those who can delete threads etc deemed deletable would also help those of us who haven't (statistically) built up a reputation to each these priviledges automatically to contact them.


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                                    I'm getting as tired as everyone else of the crap that is going on so I'm proposing the following changes: - I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam - Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam - Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages" Two more thoughts: 1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be? 2. I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles. You post rubbish and you go down. The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around. The ones who have interesting stories, incitefulinsightful comments, are great moderators of the mood, and whose participation makes CodeProject what it is. Suggestions? -- modified at 10:20 Wednesday 18th July, 2007

                                    cheers, Chris Maunder

                                    CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                                    Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages"

                                    I don't see anyone abusing the existing classification system. Besides, I was looking forward to acheiving the 'grucky stuff behind the fridge' level soon.

                                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                                    Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam

                                    There's a spitload of them available; let's limit this to Gold and above.

                                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                                    "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be?

                                    This should be a power limited to very few as I think it will be heavily abused. Perhaps a better method would involve tracking the percentage of posts tagged as spam/abuse, and raising a flag to moderators when a member scores above a reasonable level. Then limit the banishing power to moderators only.

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                                      I'm getting as tired as everyone else of the crap that is going on so I'm proposing the following changes: - I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam - Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam - Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages" Two more thoughts: 1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be? 2. I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles. You post rubbish and you go down. The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around. The ones who have interesting stories, incitefulinsightful comments, are great moderators of the mood, and whose participation makes CodeProject what it is. Suggestions? -- modified at 10:20 Wednesday 18th July, 2007

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                                      Considering the number of fake accounts that people can create, I would suggest a two fold solution. (1) An annually non-refundable renewable membership fee. (2) Probationary period of not less than 3 months before the members are awarded a Bronze medal. During this probationary period, voting privileges are denied. If during this probationary period, the junior member has an unacceptably large number of spam or abuse votes especially where messages removed results, their membership is revoked. However, where messages are removed, I would like to see both a highly visible warning message replacing the text of the removed message and a warning e-mail despatched to the member. The member should have right to appeal against any removed messages, or revoked membership in the same sort of way that an employee has right of appeal where disciplinary action has been taken against him/her. Having any extra clickable buttons may not be the best way forward.

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                                        I'm getting as tired as everyone else of the crap that is going on so I'm proposing the following changes: - I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam - Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam - Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages" Two more thoughts: 1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be? 2. I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles. You post rubbish and you go down. The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around. The ones who have interesting stories, incitefulinsightful comments, are great moderators of the mood, and whose participation makes CodeProject what it is. Suggestions? -- modified at 10:20 Wednesday 18th July, 2007

                                        cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                        Chris Maunder wrote:

                                        - I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam - Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam - Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages"

                                        :) all good. the other two 1) this could be a good feature, however not all gold/silver members are like those who post here (*cough*friendly*cough*) so i'd put it as a vote where they need say 10 votes to be kicked. then a kick is reported to admin and they can take a better look to see if it is valid or if further action is required for that user. 2) i agree with you chris the rankings would be better if they were based on votes not the post count. what ratio do you have in mind? (im not sure how it work at the moment to be honest) if i answer 2 questions on c++/mfc forum and get Q1 gets 5 Q2 gets 1 (didnt know what i was talking about which is normal X| ) (to keep it simple) just 1 vote for each. both by a new member bronze. How would the 1 affect my 5 and overall score.., would I be left with a 3 for my profile score.? i ask just to see if it could be abused or not like the present system :sigh: Thanks Sam.

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                                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                                          Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam

                                          Make that gold and above. There are heaps of them anyway....

                                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                                          Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute

                                          I thought this was in place since last month?

                                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                                          I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be?

                                          I'm tempted to say 'Great idea!' but sadly it's going to be abused. Maybe you can make it accessible to Platinum members only - there are only a few of them, and they're all generally good apples.

                                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                                          I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles.

                                          Again, this is going to be HEAVILY abused. Point #3 mitigates this abuse to a certain extent, but if you want to see an example of this abuse, I suggest you look at the votes I've been garnering in the C# forum. I don't give a damn what happens in the Lounge, but I do my best to help people in small ways in the C# forum, and some arsehole is dutifully voting every post of mine down. That is abuse in my book. :|

                                          Cheers, Vıkram.


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                                          Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                                          Chris Maunder wrote: Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute I thought this was in place since last month?

                                          The existing system (been in place for at least a year) is one vote per item per IP. What the change would add is X votes per minute total, eg you could only vote for 5 unique articles/messages per minute.

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