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Careful not to get too close Rob, with flattery like that Colin might just try and cop a feel :)
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I think letting you retain your account is compensation enough! :laugh:
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Scott Dorman wrote:
1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members.Just how abused would this be? This one generated a lot of feedback, with a lot of different options. 1. Treat it as a vote, and with enough votes the person is banned/removed from the site. The general feeling with this is that the person kicked should be placed on a temporary ban that is reset after a specified period of time. The length of each ban is additive, and the more times a person is banned the longer the ban lasts. After a certain number of bans, they are removed from the site. The ban would prevent them from posting articles or posts for the duration of the ban.
Hey, that's a good idea. I was thinking something like that, but I couldn't write it down like that.
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WillemM wrote:
Hey, that's a good idea. I was thinking something like that, but I couldn't write it down like that.
Thanks, but it actually wasn't my idea. You can thank your fellow CPians. :) All I did was take the various replies that mentioned something about that particular suggestion that followed the same general thought and put the relevant bits together. Out of the possibilities for this particular suggestion, I do think I like this one the best as it seems to have the most potential to be fair.
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Careful not to get too close Rob, with flattery like that Colin might just try and cop a feel :)
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I'm relying on it :laugh::laugh:
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I can't hurt Vista anymore than Microsoft already has.
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001I agree with that. Vista - A distant view or prospect. It is MS attempt to be a global evil.
God Bless, Jason
Paul Conrad wrote:
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Imagine the possibilities if one person was to get their hands on multiple gold accounts.
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Imagine the possibilities
I am getting my boots on right now to give you a good kick in the Esc button.:laugh:
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Paul Conrad wrote:
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For the kicking out of the lounge, I think yes, only gold and above members. But have it so you need a certain number of points before the person gets kicked out. For example, you need 20 points to get kicked out. A platinum member gets 10 points towards the 20, and gold 10 towards the 20. That way if the true higher up members think the person should go, it will happen quicker. I don't know about the limited number of messages a day. What if a person wants to answer a lot of questions in the programming forums? What if it is a heated discussion in the SB? I like the idea of a small fee. That will really weed out fake accounts, trolls, etc. Maybe the price can be based on your status (once platinum no fee). I think there should be a board only accessible to gold and higher members to discuss openly who needs a kick in the a**. People who abuse get kicked out for a certain number of days. If you get suspended three times you are booted permanently.
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I think you have the right idea about the kicking folks out part.
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Paul Conrad wrote:
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Bert delaVega wrote:
should have a jailhouse type of area
Yeah! :-D For six months all of the offender's posts will be redirected to the blog site of He Who Shall Remain UnnamedTM.:rolleyes: (The oldtimers long-time members know Who I'm talking about...)
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leckey wrote:
What if a person wants to answer a lot of questions in the programming forums? What if it is a heated discussion in the SB?
Maybe those areas should be exempt? I have always felt that the SB is a the "glove-are-off" area, hence, use at your own risk type of thing.
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Paul Conrad wrote:
the SB is a the "glove-are-off" area
And it should be, some people like to really voice(type) their opinions. Someone shouldn't get kick out of the SB unless they are harassing or threating others.
God Bless, Jason
Paul Conrad wrote:
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Yeah, right. You wouldn't have anything to do around here then!
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Paul Conrad wrote:
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I'm relying on it :laugh::laugh:
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[EDIT: This is a reply to John's post, just above Hans's] There's an Abuse link also, which it seems to me, does exactly the same that the Spam link does.
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Chris Maunder wrote:
I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster.
I like this idea. No more Gold because you've posted once and remembered your password three years later.
Chris Maunder wrote:
If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status
The problem with that is that in the current climate a lot of excellent posts in the programming forum are being shot down by the univoter. I've been shot down, Vikram's been shot down, Pete's been shot down - all for no valid reason. I would prefer a voting system that is based on "Click if this answer was useful" style of thing. That way people cannot vote down indiscriminately.
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Yea, the univoting is causing a lot of tension around here. I think a little bit of tracking on accounts that vote nothing but ones would be good. Then disable that account and IP for a few days.
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Paul Conrad wrote:
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I'm getting as tired as everyone else of the crap that is going on so I'm proposing the following changes: - I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam - Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam - Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages" Two more thoughts: 1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be? 2. I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles. You post rubbish and you go down. The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around. The ones who have interesting stories, incitefulinsightful comments, are great moderators of the mood, and whose participation makes CodeProject what it is. Suggestions? -- modified at 10:20 Wednesday 18th July, 2007
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There have been a lot of comments to Chris' changes and suggestions. I'm creating this post to try and summarize them (more for my benefit, but I think it will help see the general feelings towards each of the changes.
- I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam
There really weren't (m)any comments to this one, so I'm guessing that no one has any problems with it.
- Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam
It seems that the general consensus is that this should be changed to Gold members and above. There is a concern that poorly rated articles will count towards the ranking. [I'm not sure this should actually matter. With the other changes in place for the voting and the ranking, I think this would work itself out.]
- Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day
Again, there didn't seem to be much on this one. There did seem to be some confusion that this was capping the number of posts per day, but as far as I can tell, it is only limiting the number of votes per day. The IP address is already restricted to 1 vote per article, and this would add a x votes per minute and y votes per day from the same IP address.
- Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages"
This one didn't seem to go over very well. The general feeling was that this change wouldn't really have any value, particularly with the other changes in place.
1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members.
Just how abused would this be?This one generated a lot of feedback, with a lot of different options. 1. Treat it as a vote, and with enough votes the person is banned/removed from the site. The general feeling with this is that the person kicked should be placed on a temporary ban that is reset after a specified period of time. The length of each ban is additive, and the more times a person is banned the longer the ban lasts. After a certain number of bans, they are removed from the site. The ban would prevent them from posting articles or posts for the duration of the ban. 2. Instead of banning/removing the person from the site, hide their posts from everyone else logged in. With the posts hidden, there would be no replies (or at least no new replies). 3. Having a "up vote/down vote". Not much detail on this one, but I thi
Good summary
Scott Dorman wrote:
2. Find a way to limit the number of fake accounts being created. Perhaps one account creation per ip address or a small non-refundable membership fee (possibly yearly or just an initial fee).
The problem with this is multiple people signing up from one office, the outbound IP address is likely to be the same for everyone in the office, thus denying some people the ability to sign up.
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Ahhhh, another devoted follower. :)
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Good summary
Scott Dorman wrote:
2. Find a way to limit the number of fake accounts being created. Perhaps one account creation per ip address or a small non-refundable membership fee (possibly yearly or just an initial fee).
The problem with this is multiple people signing up from one office, the outbound IP address is likely to be the same for everyone in the office, thus denying some people the ability to sign up.
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
Good summary
Thanks.
Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
The problem with this is multiple people signing up from one office, the outbound IP address is likely to be the same for everyone in the office, thus denying some people the ability to sign up.
Good point. I had actually forgotten about that possibility. There still should be some way to limit the amount of fake accounts being created. Perhaps some sort of validation process or something. (I actually don't even remember what CPs process is anymore, it was a long time ago (but in a galaxy very, very close) that I signed up.)
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Paul Conrad wrote:
the SB is a the "glove-are-off" area
And it should be, some people like to really voice(type) their opinions. Someone shouldn't get kick out of the SB unless they are harassing or threating others.
God Bless, Jason
Paul Conrad wrote:
Chuck Norris keeps the hamsters going whenever Chris is gone on vacation. Just stares them down and they keep the servers going
jason_lakewhitney wrote:
Someone shouldn't get kick out of the SB unless they are harassing or threating others.
exactly, and just summon Chuck Norris when that happens :-D
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I'm getting as tired as everyone else of the crap that is going on so I'm proposing the following changes: - I've increased the threshold for messages to disappear if marked as spam - Only silver and above members can mark messages as spam - Your IP address can only vote a limited number of times a minute and also a limited number of times a day - Once you hit 5,000 messages then your profile will simply say "over 5,000 messages" Two more thoughts: 1. I'm tempted to add a "Kick this person out of the lounge" button. It would only be accessible by Gold and above members. Just how abused would this be? 2. I will be replacing the Silver/Gold etc ranking with a ranking based on your participation as an author and as a poster. If you answer questions in the forums that are well received you increase your status; same with your posted articles. You post rubbish and you go down. The only problem with this is how we reward those members who are simply great to have around. The ones who have interesting stories, incitefulinsightful comments, are great moderators of the mood, and whose participation makes CodeProject what it is. Suggestions? -- modified at 10:20 Wednesday 18th July, 2007
cheers, Chris Maunder
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With all of these enhancements and silo-ing of scores, will their be an increase in the quality of those posting prizes? The voting restrictions will really hurt: I had lived in Chicago for a while, and we all knew right from wrong on election day: Vote Early! Vote Often! Caution: this button is active:
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I think it will still give you fixture if you go over 5,000 posts.
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