Displaying IP addresses of posters
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What do you reckon? I'm getting a little sick of members creating new accounts and trolling. How offended would everyone be if a) the IP address of where they posted their message from was displayed, or b) each message contains a link that allows you to see a list other accounts that have also posted from this IP.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
I am a little scared at option a) as it opens the door to some bot attacks to that ip address.
John
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I rather like the b) option. Posting the IP address could open users up to attacks from people who have less than adequate coping skills.
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ess than adequate coping skills.
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I concur. And for bonus points, there could be a link to get a list of any previous names of posters. I forgot something.... An IP address could easily be used to find out where people work, by a simple reverse-lookup to the domain name. Most don't care about this, as they use their real names on CodeProject, but I (and probably many others) like to maintain a little anonymity on the intertubes...
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public static void DoSomething() { DoSomethingElse(); } public static void DoSomethingElse() { Dosomething(); }
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Mark Salsbery wrote:
I've marked this post as abuse as well.
I marked it as Ab Use, clearly Chris is exercising good judgement. :)
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What do you reckon? I'm getting a little sick of members creating new accounts and trolling. How offended would everyone be if a) the IP address of where they posted their message from was displayed, or b) each message contains a link that allows you to see a list other accounts that have also posted from this IP.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Sounds good to me as long as there's no security implications for everybody else.
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What do you reckon? I'm getting a little sick of members creating new accounts and trolling. How offended would everyone be if a) the IP address of where they posted their message from was displayed, or b) each message contains a link that allows you to see a list other accounts that have also posted from this IP.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
I'd go for b. I also like Miszou's idea of listing previous names - i hacked together something for this in CPhog, but it only works for changes in the past 50 posts and probably isn't very kind to the servers. If you could make the link look like one of those nifty little auto-generated flower things... that would just be cool. ;)
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What do you reckon? I'm getting a little sick of members creating new accounts and trolling. How offended would everyone be if a) the IP address of where they posted their message from was displayed, or b) each message contains a link that allows you to see a list other accounts that have also posted from this IP.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
If you are going to do one of those, I think a has too many downsides. Either one is an ugly solution to this problem. I've probably posted from at least a hundred different IPs over the years. It would be interesting to see if there was any overlap with accounts posting from the coffee shops that I frequent.
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What do you reckon? I'm getting a little sick of members creating new accounts and trolling. How offended would everyone be if a) the IP address of where they posted their message from was displayed, or b) each message contains a link that allows you to see a list other accounts that have also posted from this IP.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Why not use that image thingie that everyone was talking about here a ways back (6 months ago or something like that)? You know, the thing that generates a unique image off an IP address. Someone enabled it for their blog and it seemed to work very well. YOu can see at a glance when the IP address is the same without revealing the IP address.
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What do you reckon? I'm getting a little sick of members creating new accounts and trolling. How offended would everyone be if a) the IP address of where they posted their message from was displayed, or b) each message contains a link that allows you to see a list other accounts that have also posted from this IP.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
I agree with Roger about option (b). This could work as a deterrent, but there are ways of defeating it...
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
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What do you reckon? I'm getting a little sick of members creating new accounts and trolling. How offended would everyone be if a) the IP address of where they posted their message from was displayed, or b) each message contains a link that allows you to see a list other accounts that have also posted from this IP.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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If you are going to do one of those, I think a has too many downsides. Either one is an ugly solution to this problem. I've probably posted from at least a hundred different IPs over the years. It would be interesting to see if there was any overlap with accounts posting from the coffee shops that I frequent.
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Andy Brummer wrote:
Either one is an ugly solution to this problem.
Neither one is really a solution. Spoofing your IP isn't terribly hard for someone with enough time on their hands to spam the site, so i'd guess it's really more about just adding enough friction to slow the rate of abuse to manageable levels.
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I agree with Roger about option (b). This could work as a deterrent, but there are ways of defeating it...
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
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I agree with Roger about option (b). This could work as a deterrent, but there are ways of defeating it...
"Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
Off the top of my head, how about a proxy-server.
public static void DoSomething() { DoSomethingElse(); } public static void DoSomethingElse() { Dosomething(); }
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Andy Brummer wrote:
Either one is an ugly solution to this problem.
Neither one is really a solution. Spoofing your IP isn't terribly hard for someone with enough time on their hands to spam the site, so i'd guess it's really more about just adding enough friction to slow the rate of abuse to manageable levels.
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Shog9 wrote:
so i'd guess it's really more about just adding enough friction to slow the rate of abuse to manageable levels.
exactly... if you don't have to change IP to spoof a userid, it makes it easy, certainly spoofing an IP isn't difficult, but if you change a lot it does become an annoyance. If abuse requires extra annoyance to accomplish, one or more of the abusers may get bored and go elsewhere after easier prey.
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What do you reckon? I'm getting a little sick of members creating new accounts and trolling. How offended would everyone be if a) the IP address of where they posted their message from was displayed, or b) each message contains a link that allows you to see a list other accounts that have also posted from this IP.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Hmmm... I can post from one of 7 machines - five of them are at home, each with their own static ip, and two are at work (both via dhcp). I presume that the two at work will resolve to the same IP, and I'm not sure if anyone else on codeproject is working where I do. I don't really care one way or the other how you do it. :)
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Why not use that image thingie that everyone was talking about here a ways back (6 months ago or something like that)? You know, the thing that generates a unique image off an IP address. Someone enabled it for their blog and it seemed to work very well. YOu can see at a glance when the IP address is the same without revealing the IP address.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
John Cardinal wrote:
Why not use that image thingie
Because it's broken and I've not had a chance to dig in and fix it. I'm assuming plenty of other people have made fixes in the interim so it's probably not a bad idea for me to go grab some updated code.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Andy Brummer wrote:
Either one is an ugly solution to this problem.
Neither one is really a solution. Spoofing your IP isn't terribly hard for someone with enough time on their hands to spam the site, so i'd guess it's really more about just adding enough friction to slow the rate of abuse to manageable levels.
You must be careful in the forest Broken glass and rusty nails If you're to bring back something for us I have bullets for sale...
Unfortunately people just can't be trusted to ignore all the crap posts. I really think this is going to be too tempting for underage home-schooled kids on summer break to show everyone how it really isn't a solution. At least until they get bored with it. Though option A could be tempting enough that they could try something really stupid.
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What do you reckon? I'm getting a little sick of members creating new accounts and trolling. How offended would everyone be if a) the IP address of where they posted their message from was displayed, or b) each message contains a link that allows you to see a list other accounts that have also posted from this IP.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
I must concur that it would be a mistake to reveal everyone's IP. Why not reveal everyone's credit card number while you're at it?
-------------------------------- "All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing" -- Edmund Burke
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I must concur that it would be a mistake to reveal everyone's IP. Why not reveal everyone's credit card number while you're at it?
-------------------------------- "All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing" -- Edmund Burke
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I must concur that it would be a mistake to reveal everyone's IP. Why not reveal everyone's credit card number while you're at it?
-------------------------------- "All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing" -- Edmund Burke
