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    I, personally, don’t know if ghosts exist or not, despite some anecdotal evidence that is purely conjecture from a residence where there was a feeling of an “other wordily” presence. This was a very old house (mud and stone construction) and the presence was felt by other inhabitants of the house as well. I mentioned it and there was immediate recognition that it was a female presence without my mentioning that. Strange! Anyway, the incident I am thinking of involves my wife, her father and a villager who in despair decided to end it all. He was an affable fellow, at least that was his outward appearance, but things got to be too much and he hanged himself. Unfortunately, my wife’s cousin came across his dead body hanging from an electrical pylon when she went out to feed the ducks one morning. Funeral rites were held and his body was cremated, in the Buddhist tradition. As a bit of background, the village is predominately Khmer, and some traditions predate Buddhism, and can best be described as animist. My house is on the edge of the village and on a typical day there are more, many more, buffalo and cows pass my house than cars or motorcycles. All of the animal traffic and most of the mechanized traffic occurs during daylight hours as the herds are moved from the barn to the grazing areas during the day and back in the evening. After this fellow decided to end it all there are no cars or motorcycles that pass after dark. Not that there were many before, but now there are none! When asked my wife she told me that people don’t come this way because of the ghosts! In fact her father doesn’t come over to watch TV in the dark any more because of the ghosts. My wife now asks me to accompany her when she goes out to the “Hong Nam” (toilet/bath house) to take a “shower” (bird bath) after dark. I asked why she wanted me to accompany her and her response was “aren’t you afraid of the ghosts?” [specifically this tortured soul that recently hung himself]”. She was appalled when I answered that “no I wasn’t” and that if he wanted to visit and have a drink I would be happy to drink with him. By way of background, we have 2 spirit houses (Katum Ta (Grandfather's Hut); in Khmer) on the property; one for our ancestors and one for any wandering, or traveling, spirits who need a place to stay. I told her that we -- me and this fellow -- were friends in life (we were cordial and did share many drinks in friendship when he was alive) so I didn’t fear him in the afterlife. My wife freaked

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      I, personally, don’t know if ghosts exist or not, despite some anecdotal evidence that is purely conjecture from a residence where there was a feeling of an “other wordily” presence. This was a very old house (mud and stone construction) and the presence was felt by other inhabitants of the house as well. I mentioned it and there was immediate recognition that it was a female presence without my mentioning that. Strange! Anyway, the incident I am thinking of involves my wife, her father and a villager who in despair decided to end it all. He was an affable fellow, at least that was his outward appearance, but things got to be too much and he hanged himself. Unfortunately, my wife’s cousin came across his dead body hanging from an electrical pylon when she went out to feed the ducks one morning. Funeral rites were held and his body was cremated, in the Buddhist tradition. As a bit of background, the village is predominately Khmer, and some traditions predate Buddhism, and can best be described as animist. My house is on the edge of the village and on a typical day there are more, many more, buffalo and cows pass my house than cars or motorcycles. All of the animal traffic and most of the mechanized traffic occurs during daylight hours as the herds are moved from the barn to the grazing areas during the day and back in the evening. After this fellow decided to end it all there are no cars or motorcycles that pass after dark. Not that there were many before, but now there are none! When asked my wife she told me that people don’t come this way because of the ghosts! In fact her father doesn’t come over to watch TV in the dark any more because of the ghosts. My wife now asks me to accompany her when she goes out to the “Hong Nam” (toilet/bath house) to take a “shower” (bird bath) after dark. I asked why she wanted me to accompany her and her response was “aren’t you afraid of the ghosts?” [specifically this tortured soul that recently hung himself]”. She was appalled when I answered that “no I wasn’t” and that if he wanted to visit and have a drink I would be happy to drink with him. By way of background, we have 2 spirit houses (Katum Ta (Grandfather's Hut); in Khmer) on the property; one for our ancestors and one for any wandering, or traveling, spirits who need a place to stay. I told her that we -- me and this fellow -- were friends in life (we were cordial and did share many drinks in friendship when he was alive) so I didn’t fear him in the afterlife. My wife freaked

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      No I don't. Is your wife Buddhist? and are you? Because it might be related to religious beliefs. Or if your wife and her family are from that town (and you are not), it may be a local tradition. I am very skeptic with all those ghost/supenatural things. But who knows, there might be actually some truth into it. :suss:

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        No I don't. Is your wife Buddhist? and are you? Because it might be related to religious beliefs. Or if your wife and her family are from that town (and you are not), it may be a local tradition. I am very skeptic with all those ghost/supenatural things. But who knows, there might be actually some truth into it. :suss:

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        Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

        No I don't.

        Then i'll bet i get a better score in Pacman...

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          I, personally, don’t know if ghosts exist or not, despite some anecdotal evidence that is purely conjecture from a residence where there was a feeling of an “other wordily” presence. This was a very old house (mud and stone construction) and the presence was felt by other inhabitants of the house as well. I mentioned it and there was immediate recognition that it was a female presence without my mentioning that. Strange! Anyway, the incident I am thinking of involves my wife, her father and a villager who in despair decided to end it all. He was an affable fellow, at least that was his outward appearance, but things got to be too much and he hanged himself. Unfortunately, my wife’s cousin came across his dead body hanging from an electrical pylon when she went out to feed the ducks one morning. Funeral rites were held and his body was cremated, in the Buddhist tradition. As a bit of background, the village is predominately Khmer, and some traditions predate Buddhism, and can best be described as animist. My house is on the edge of the village and on a typical day there are more, many more, buffalo and cows pass my house than cars or motorcycles. All of the animal traffic and most of the mechanized traffic occurs during daylight hours as the herds are moved from the barn to the grazing areas during the day and back in the evening. After this fellow decided to end it all there are no cars or motorcycles that pass after dark. Not that there were many before, but now there are none! When asked my wife she told me that people don’t come this way because of the ghosts! In fact her father doesn’t come over to watch TV in the dark any more because of the ghosts. My wife now asks me to accompany her when she goes out to the “Hong Nam” (toilet/bath house) to take a “shower” (bird bath) after dark. I asked why she wanted me to accompany her and her response was “aren’t you afraid of the ghosts?” [specifically this tortured soul that recently hung himself]”. She was appalled when I answered that “no I wasn’t” and that if he wanted to visit and have a drink I would be happy to drink with him. By way of background, we have 2 spirit houses (Katum Ta (Grandfather's Hut); in Khmer) on the property; one for our ancestors and one for any wandering, or traveling, spirits who need a place to stay. I told her that we -- me and this fellow -- were friends in life (we were cordial and did share many drinks in friendship when he was alive) so I didn’t fear him in the afterlife. My wife freaked

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          Well, let's say there is the ghost of this suicidale affable fellow around. Why would he be suddenly nasty while he was affable in life?!? :confused:

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            No I don't. Is your wife Buddhist? and are you? Because it might be related to religious beliefs. Or if your wife and her family are from that town (and you are not), it may be a local tradition. I am very skeptic with all those ghost/supenatural things. But who knows, there might be actually some truth into it. :suss:

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            Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

            No I don't.

            I am not quite sure based on the incident I described in the old house and other phenomena I have felt over the years. I don't necessarily believe, but I don't disbelieve either. I guess I can be characterized as agnostic.

            Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

            Is your wife Buddhist? and are you?

            My wife is very definitely Buddhist (Theravadan), but there are these animist beliefs that are also present. My favorite "holiday" (non Buddhist) is when we gather once a year as a family and each person speaks a testament to a dearly departed ancestor and then with much fanfare we all drink a toast to that person. Needless to say this is a very festive experience after a few drinks. We even offer whiskey, amongst other things (brought out to and left as offerings at the Kathum Ta), to our ancestral spirits.

            Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

            Or if your wife and her family are from that town (and you are not), it may be a local tradition.

            It seems to transcend just the local area. After the Tsnaumi there were reports that Asians would not return to the area for many years because of the fear of ghosts.

            Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

            But who knows, there might be actually some truth into it.

            That is my feelings, I really don't know.

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              Well, let's say there is the ghost of this suicidale affable fellow around. Why would he be suddenly nasty while he was affable in life?!? :confused:

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              Super Lloyd wrote:

              Why would he be suddenly nasty while he was affable in life?!?

              That was my point why I didn't fear him. But then how far does rational thought extend into superstitions? :confused:

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                I, personally, don’t know if ghosts exist or not, despite some anecdotal evidence that is purely conjecture from a residence where there was a feeling of an “other wordily” presence. This was a very old house (mud and stone construction) and the presence was felt by other inhabitants of the house as well. I mentioned it and there was immediate recognition that it was a female presence without my mentioning that. Strange! Anyway, the incident I am thinking of involves my wife, her father and a villager who in despair decided to end it all. He was an affable fellow, at least that was his outward appearance, but things got to be too much and he hanged himself. Unfortunately, my wife’s cousin came across his dead body hanging from an electrical pylon when she went out to feed the ducks one morning. Funeral rites were held and his body was cremated, in the Buddhist tradition. As a bit of background, the village is predominately Khmer, and some traditions predate Buddhism, and can best be described as animist. My house is on the edge of the village and on a typical day there are more, many more, buffalo and cows pass my house than cars or motorcycles. All of the animal traffic and most of the mechanized traffic occurs during daylight hours as the herds are moved from the barn to the grazing areas during the day and back in the evening. After this fellow decided to end it all there are no cars or motorcycles that pass after dark. Not that there were many before, but now there are none! When asked my wife she told me that people don’t come this way because of the ghosts! In fact her father doesn’t come over to watch TV in the dark any more because of the ghosts. My wife now asks me to accompany her when she goes out to the “Hong Nam” (toilet/bath house) to take a “shower” (bird bath) after dark. I asked why she wanted me to accompany her and her response was “aren’t you afraid of the ghosts?” [specifically this tortured soul that recently hung himself]”. She was appalled when I answered that “no I wasn’t” and that if he wanted to visit and have a drink I would be happy to drink with him. By way of background, we have 2 spirit houses (Katum Ta (Grandfather's Hut); in Khmer) on the property; one for our ancestors and one for any wandering, or traveling, spirits who need a place to stay. I told her that we -- me and this fellow -- were friends in life (we were cordial and did share many drinks in friendship when he was alive) so I didn’t fear him in the afterlife. My wife freaked

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                No I don't think that there are Ghosts. But it does not mean that I can walk alone at mid night in a grave yard.

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                  No I don't. Is your wife Buddhist? and are you? Because it might be related to religious beliefs. Or if your wife and her family are from that town (and you are not), it may be a local tradition. I am very skeptic with all those ghost/supenatural things. But who knows, there might be actually some truth into it. :suss:

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                  Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

                  No I don't.

                  Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

                  But who knows, there might be actually some truth into it.

                  Wise man!

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                    No I don't think that there are Ghosts. But it does not mean that I can walk alone at mid night in a grave yard.

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                    Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                    But it does not mean that I can walk alone at mid night in a grave yard.

                    I have and don't feel any apprehension.

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                    • L Luis Alonso Ramos

                      No I don't. Is your wife Buddhist? and are you? Because it might be related to religious beliefs. Or if your wife and her family are from that town (and you are not), it may be a local tradition. I am very skeptic with all those ghost/supenatural things. But who knows, there might be actually some truth into it. :suss:

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                      Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

                      No I don't.

                      That's not very patriotic. After all, November 2nd is a (de facto) national holiday. :-D

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                        I, personally, don’t know if ghosts exist or not, despite some anecdotal evidence that is purely conjecture from a residence where there was a feeling of an “other wordily” presence. This was a very old house (mud and stone construction) and the presence was felt by other inhabitants of the house as well. I mentioned it and there was immediate recognition that it was a female presence without my mentioning that. Strange! Anyway, the incident I am thinking of involves my wife, her father and a villager who in despair decided to end it all. He was an affable fellow, at least that was his outward appearance, but things got to be too much and he hanged himself. Unfortunately, my wife’s cousin came across his dead body hanging from an electrical pylon when she went out to feed the ducks one morning. Funeral rites were held and his body was cremated, in the Buddhist tradition. As a bit of background, the village is predominately Khmer, and some traditions predate Buddhism, and can best be described as animist. My house is on the edge of the village and on a typical day there are more, many more, buffalo and cows pass my house than cars or motorcycles. All of the animal traffic and most of the mechanized traffic occurs during daylight hours as the herds are moved from the barn to the grazing areas during the day and back in the evening. After this fellow decided to end it all there are no cars or motorcycles that pass after dark. Not that there were many before, but now there are none! When asked my wife she told me that people don’t come this way because of the ghosts! In fact her father doesn’t come over to watch TV in the dark any more because of the ghosts. My wife now asks me to accompany her when she goes out to the “Hong Nam” (toilet/bath house) to take a “shower” (bird bath) after dark. I asked why she wanted me to accompany her and her response was “aren’t you afraid of the ghosts?” [specifically this tortured soul that recently hung himself]”. She was appalled when I answered that “no I wasn’t” and that if he wanted to visit and have a drink I would be happy to drink with him. By way of background, we have 2 spirit houses (Katum Ta (Grandfather's Hut); in Khmer) on the property; one for our ancestors and one for any wandering, or traveling, spirits who need a place to stay. I told her that we -- me and this fellow -- were friends in life (we were cordial and did share many drinks in friendship when he was alive) so I didn’t fear him in the afterlife. My wife freaked

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                        I don't know if I believe in ghosts or ghost-like things, and I'm not sure if I should be afraid of them either. Movies and so on have a lot of ghosts doing a lot of crazy things, but I'm guessing if these things happened we'd already know about them. And if they happen very very infrequently so that we haven't heard of them, then I guess it is too infrequent to worry about. Also, if I don't know if I believe in ghosts, then I certainly don't know what they might be, so I have no idea whether or not they can harm me or not! Someone with a more full belief might be more scared because they know the capabilities. Some places are still scary though, because you can think up all sorts of freaky ghost things that COULD happen, and you can freak yourself out. Walking through a graveyard - I'd be more worried about the drunk people and the drug addicts that might be wandering around there and me all alone. Finally, I guess I don't think ghosts exist really, but if they do, they don't seem to be much like popular belief would tell us. If I was going to believe something, it would be that "energy" can permeate a place. So if a woman was killed in a house by her husband, I wouldn't worry about her ghost making trouble, but that the presumably negative feelings and possibly violence that had gone on in that house for years might still be present in a way that might influence my own life to make me ill or unhappy. The ghost of the events if you will. I'm not sure I believe that either, but it seems more likely. And a lot more subtle so impossible to prove!! ;)

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                          I, personally, don’t know if ghosts exist or not, despite some anecdotal evidence that is purely conjecture from a residence where there was a feeling of an “other wordily” presence. This was a very old house (mud and stone construction) and the presence was felt by other inhabitants of the house as well. I mentioned it and there was immediate recognition that it was a female presence without my mentioning that. Strange! Anyway, the incident I am thinking of involves my wife, her father and a villager who in despair decided to end it all. He was an affable fellow, at least that was his outward appearance, but things got to be too much and he hanged himself. Unfortunately, my wife’s cousin came across his dead body hanging from an electrical pylon when she went out to feed the ducks one morning. Funeral rites were held and his body was cremated, in the Buddhist tradition. As a bit of background, the village is predominately Khmer, and some traditions predate Buddhism, and can best be described as animist. My house is on the edge of the village and on a typical day there are more, many more, buffalo and cows pass my house than cars or motorcycles. All of the animal traffic and most of the mechanized traffic occurs during daylight hours as the herds are moved from the barn to the grazing areas during the day and back in the evening. After this fellow decided to end it all there are no cars or motorcycles that pass after dark. Not that there were many before, but now there are none! When asked my wife she told me that people don’t come this way because of the ghosts! In fact her father doesn’t come over to watch TV in the dark any more because of the ghosts. My wife now asks me to accompany her when she goes out to the “Hong Nam” (toilet/bath house) to take a “shower” (bird bath) after dark. I asked why she wanted me to accompany her and her response was “aren’t you afraid of the ghosts?” [specifically this tortured soul that recently hung himself]”. She was appalled when I answered that “no I wasn’t” and that if he wanted to visit and have a drink I would be happy to drink with him. By way of background, we have 2 spirit houses (Katum Ta (Grandfather's Hut); in Khmer) on the property; one for our ancestors and one for any wandering, or traveling, spirits who need a place to stay. I told her that we -- me and this fellow -- were friends in life (we were cordial and did share many drinks in friendship when he was alive) so I didn’t fear him in the afterlife. My wife freaked

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                          No. But I have heard some incidents which are very difficult to explain, and I'm open minded enough to consider that we don't know enough yet about the nature of consciousness to rule out the possibility that it might be capable of existence in some other kind of as yet unknown matrix within the universe other than a biologically produced mind (whatever that is).

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                            Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

                            No I don't.

                            That's not very patriotic. After all, November 2nd is a (de facto) national holiday. :-D

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                            The best thing about Nov. 2? free day at school! :-D

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                              Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

                              No I don't.

                              Then i'll bet i get a better score in Pacman...

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                              Running away from them?? I don't think so, I'll face and eat them :-D

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                                Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

                                No I don't.

                                Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

                                But who knows, there might be actually some truth into it.

                                Wise man!

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                                HollyHooo wrote:

                                Wise man!

                                My 5! :-D ;P

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                                  Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

                                  No I don't.

                                  I am not quite sure based on the incident I described in the old house and other phenomena I have felt over the years. I don't necessarily believe, but I don't disbelieve either. I guess I can be characterized as agnostic.

                                  Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

                                  Is your wife Buddhist? and are you?

                                  My wife is very definitely Buddhist (Theravadan), but there are these animist beliefs that are also present. My favorite "holiday" (non Buddhist) is when we gather once a year as a family and each person speaks a testament to a dearly departed ancestor and then with much fanfare we all drink a toast to that person. Needless to say this is a very festive experience after a few drinks. We even offer whiskey, amongst other things (brought out to and left as offerings at the Kathum Ta), to our ancestral spirits.

                                  Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

                                  Or if your wife and her family are from that town (and you are not), it may be a local tradition.

                                  It seems to transcend just the local area. After the Tsnaumi there were reports that Asians would not return to the area for many years because of the fear of ghosts.

                                  Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

                                  But who knows, there might be actually some truth into it.

                                  That is my feelings, I really don't know.

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                                  JimmyRopes wrote:

                                  It seems to transcend just the local area. After the Tsnaumi there were reports that Asians would not return to the area for many years because of the fear of ghosts.

                                  Or probably, rather that the same tradition, they were different, similar traditions, in which people of each town had their own stories about ghosts and dead people. I find it hard to happen in a big city, but I bet many little towns around the world, and not just in Asia, have some kind of ghost-related legend.

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                                    I, personally, don’t know if ghosts exist or not, despite some anecdotal evidence that is purely conjecture from a residence where there was a feeling of an “other wordily” presence. This was a very old house (mud and stone construction) and the presence was felt by other inhabitants of the house as well. I mentioned it and there was immediate recognition that it was a female presence without my mentioning that. Strange! Anyway, the incident I am thinking of involves my wife, her father and a villager who in despair decided to end it all. He was an affable fellow, at least that was his outward appearance, but things got to be too much and he hanged himself. Unfortunately, my wife’s cousin came across his dead body hanging from an electrical pylon when she went out to feed the ducks one morning. Funeral rites were held and his body was cremated, in the Buddhist tradition. As a bit of background, the village is predominately Khmer, and some traditions predate Buddhism, and can best be described as animist. My house is on the edge of the village and on a typical day there are more, many more, buffalo and cows pass my house than cars or motorcycles. All of the animal traffic and most of the mechanized traffic occurs during daylight hours as the herds are moved from the barn to the grazing areas during the day and back in the evening. After this fellow decided to end it all there are no cars or motorcycles that pass after dark. Not that there were many before, but now there are none! When asked my wife she told me that people don’t come this way because of the ghosts! In fact her father doesn’t come over to watch TV in the dark any more because of the ghosts. My wife now asks me to accompany her when she goes out to the “Hong Nam” (toilet/bath house) to take a “shower” (bird bath) after dark. I asked why she wanted me to accompany her and her response was “aren’t you afraid of the ghosts?” [specifically this tortured soul that recently hung himself]”. She was appalled when I answered that “no I wasn’t” and that if he wanted to visit and have a drink I would be happy to drink with him. By way of background, we have 2 spirit houses (Katum Ta (Grandfather's Hut); in Khmer) on the property; one for our ancestors and one for any wandering, or traveling, spirits who need a place to stay. I told her that we -- me and this fellow -- were friends in life (we were cordial and did share many drinks in friendship when he was alive) so I didn’t fear him in the afterlife. My wife freaked

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                                    I have reasonable doubts about ghosts because I respect science, but I tend to believe in them more than not. The main reason I tend to believe in ghosts is the large body of historical accounts, and the seemingly preposterous ways that disbelievers try to dismiss the reports out of hand. For instance, a couple of years ago I read a report about someone who said he was standing in his bathroom when suddenly he was shoved violently by an unseen force. Critics said that he simply had a muscle spasm. This is what I mean by preposterous. Anyone who has actually had a muscle spasm knows that it is possible to tell the difference between it and a push from an outside force. There was also a lot of other unexplained activity surrounding that case, so it's not like that was the only incident.

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                                      I, personally, don’t know if ghosts exist or not, despite some anecdotal evidence that is purely conjecture from a residence where there was a feeling of an “other wordily” presence. This was a very old house (mud and stone construction) and the presence was felt by other inhabitants of the house as well. I mentioned it and there was immediate recognition that it was a female presence without my mentioning that. Strange! Anyway, the incident I am thinking of involves my wife, her father and a villager who in despair decided to end it all. He was an affable fellow, at least that was his outward appearance, but things got to be too much and he hanged himself. Unfortunately, my wife’s cousin came across his dead body hanging from an electrical pylon when she went out to feed the ducks one morning. Funeral rites were held and his body was cremated, in the Buddhist tradition. As a bit of background, the village is predominately Khmer, and some traditions predate Buddhism, and can best be described as animist. My house is on the edge of the village and on a typical day there are more, many more, buffalo and cows pass my house than cars or motorcycles. All of the animal traffic and most of the mechanized traffic occurs during daylight hours as the herds are moved from the barn to the grazing areas during the day and back in the evening. After this fellow decided to end it all there are no cars or motorcycles that pass after dark. Not that there were many before, but now there are none! When asked my wife she told me that people don’t come this way because of the ghosts! In fact her father doesn’t come over to watch TV in the dark any more because of the ghosts. My wife now asks me to accompany her when she goes out to the “Hong Nam” (toilet/bath house) to take a “shower” (bird bath) after dark. I asked why she wanted me to accompany her and her response was “aren’t you afraid of the ghosts?” [specifically this tortured soul that recently hung himself]”. She was appalled when I answered that “no I wasn’t” and that if he wanted to visit and have a drink I would be happy to drink with him. By way of background, we have 2 spirit houses (Katum Ta (Grandfather's Hut); in Khmer) on the property; one for our ancestors and one for any wandering, or traveling, spirits who need a place to stay. I told her that we -- me and this fellow -- were friends in life (we were cordial and did share many drinks in friendship when he was alive) so I didn’t fear him in the afterlife. My wife freaked

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                                      JimmyRopes wrote:

                                      Do you believe in ghosts?

                                      No chance. I also don't believe in seances, clairvoyants, fortune tellers, or anyone else who seeks to steal the money of the feeble minded. It's all rubbish, as far as I am concerned. No offence to your wife.

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                                        I have reasonable doubts about ghosts because I respect science, but I tend to believe in them more than not. The main reason I tend to believe in ghosts is the large body of historical accounts, and the seemingly preposterous ways that disbelievers try to dismiss the reports out of hand. For instance, a couple of years ago I read a report about someone who said he was standing in his bathroom when suddenly he was shoved violently by an unseen force. Critics said that he simply had a muscle spasm. This is what I mean by preposterous. Anyone who has actually had a muscle spasm knows that it is possible to tell the difference between it and a push from an outside force. There was also a lot of other unexplained activity surrounding that case, so it's not like that was the only incident.

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                                        You have to realise that memory is subjective. Someone who is inclined to believe in ghosts, will be inclined to remember that they were shoved.

                                        Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                                          JimmyRopes wrote:

                                          Do you believe in ghosts?

                                          No chance. I also don't believe in seances, clairvoyants, fortune tellers, or anyone else who seeks to steal the money of the feeble minded. It's all rubbish, as far as I am concerned. No offence to your wife.

                                          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                                          Christian Graus wrote:

                                          No offence to your wife

                                          No offense taken. She comes from a very spiritual culture that believe a lot of things that an outsider might question. I just wondered how people felt about ghosts.

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