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  • S Super Lloyd

    We tested our application in limited user account and it works well. Recently I had bug report from someone using it from the Guest account. It just crash when starting, mmhh... Pardon my ignorance, but I know naught about Windows networking and such, what could be the difference between the Guest account and a Limited User Account?

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    Super Lloyd wrote:

    what could be the difference between the Guest account and a Limited User Account?

    Everything! Look at the permissions of the different accounts.

    Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
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    • S Super Lloyd

      We tested our application in limited user account and it works well. Recently I had bug report from someone using it from the Guest account. It just crash when starting, mmhh... Pardon my ignorance, but I know naught about Windows networking and such, what could be the difference between the Guest account and a Limited User Account?

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      Super Lloyd wrote:

      Pardon my ignorance

      We can pardon your ignorance, but we can't pardon a programming question in the Lounge!! ;P

      -------------------------------- "All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing" -- Edmund Burke

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      • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

        Super Lloyd wrote:

        Pardon my ignorance

        We can pardon your ignorance, but we can't pardon a programming question in the Lounge!! ;P

        -------------------------------- "All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing" -- Edmund Burke

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        Super Lloyd
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        I would like to plead that this is more a general knowledge question than a programing question. As a proof I think that no programing language need to be involved!! ;P

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        • J JimmyRopes

          Super Lloyd wrote:

          what could be the difference between the Guest account and a Limited User Account?

          Everything! Look at the permissions of the different accounts.

          Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
          Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
          I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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          Luis Alonso Ramos
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          JimmyRopes wrote:

          Everything! Look at the permissions of the different accounts.

          I would understand in Windows Server or Windows 2000, but even in WinXP? I though a guest account was a simple limited account with a specific name. :confused:

          Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix Chihuahua, Mexico

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          • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

            Super Lloyd wrote:

            Pardon my ignorance

            We can pardon your ignorance, but we can't pardon a programming question in the Lounge!! ;P

            -------------------------------- "All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing" -- Edmund Burke

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            Lost User
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            Pardon my ignorance, but how on earth is that a programming question? Cheers, Drew.

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              JimmyRopes wrote:

              Everything! Look at the permissions of the different accounts.

              I would understand in Windows Server or Windows 2000, but even in WinXP? I though a guest account was a simple limited account with a specific name. :confused:

              Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix Chihuahua, Mexico

              My Blog!

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              Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

              I would understand in Windows Server or Windows 2000, but even in WinXP? I though a guest account was a simple limited account with a specific name.

              Let me understand this. Are you saying that permissions cannot be changed from what was originally set when the operating system was first installed? :confused:

              Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
              Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
              I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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              • S Super Lloyd

                We tested our application in limited user account and it works well. Recently I had bug report from someone using it from the Guest account. It just crash when starting, mmhh... Pardon my ignorance, but I know naught about Windows networking and such, what could be the difference between the Guest account and a Limited User Account?

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                I am no expert on this but my understanding of the Guest account is that it is intended for unauthenticated access to the system. Generally Microsoft recommends disabeling this account. I would consider having the guest account open on a public information computer, that should be available to everyone and that does not access resources that are not completely public. For exampel, a terminal in a library from wich you can access the Internet. I have on occasion activated the Guest account to enable file sharing over a network when I could find no other way to get two Windows computers to access each other. But then I turned it of as soon as I was done. In no other circumstance would I consider using the Guest account for anything. A limited user account on the other hand is intended to be personal or maybe role-specific, thus authenticated (linked to a known person or job function), and preferably having a password attached to it. There is a clear difference in the specific limitations for the group Guests and the group Users (Guest account belongs to Guests, most other accounts belong to Users). If you check the descriptions of these two groups you get a clearer picture of the default settings.

                Carolina Berglund Systemdeveloper, Headlight, Sweden.

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                  I am no expert on this but my understanding of the Guest account is that it is intended for unauthenticated access to the system. Generally Microsoft recommends disabeling this account. I would consider having the guest account open on a public information computer, that should be available to everyone and that does not access resources that are not completely public. For exampel, a terminal in a library from wich you can access the Internet. I have on occasion activated the Guest account to enable file sharing over a network when I could find no other way to get two Windows computers to access each other. But then I turned it of as soon as I was done. In no other circumstance would I consider using the Guest account for anything. A limited user account on the other hand is intended to be personal or maybe role-specific, thus authenticated (linked to a known person or job function), and preferably having a password attached to it. There is a clear difference in the specific limitations for the group Guests and the group Users (Guest account belongs to Guests, most other accounts belong to Users). If you check the descriptions of these two groups you get a clearer picture of the default settings.

                  Carolina Berglund Systemdeveloper, Headlight, Sweden.

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                  Super Lloyd
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                  Thanks for this head start in the understanding of these things ;-)

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                  • S Super Lloyd

                    We tested our application in limited user account and it works well. Recently I had bug report from someone using it from the Guest account. It just crash when starting, mmhh... Pardon my ignorance, but I know naught about Windows networking and such, what could be the difference between the Guest account and a Limited User Account?

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                    From Description of the Guest account in Windows XP[^] When you use the Guest account to log on, the following activities apply: • You do not require a password. • You cannot install software or hardware. • You cannot change the Guest account type. • You cannot create a password for the account. • You cannot change the Guest account picture. • You cannot access the applications that have already been installed on the computer. • You cannot access the files in the Shared Documents folder. • You cannot access the files in the Guest profile.


                    With respect, I must disagree. A quick look at middle management in just about any corporation shows that the dodo not only survived, it's reproducing in record numbers. Christopher Duncan

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                    • S S Douglas

                      From Description of the Guest account in Windows XP[^] When you use the Guest account to log on, the following activities apply: • You do not require a password. • You cannot install software or hardware. • You cannot change the Guest account type. • You cannot create a password for the account. • You cannot change the Guest account picture. • You cannot access the applications that have already been installed on the computer. • You cannot access the files in the Shared Documents folder. • You cannot access the files in the Guest profile.


                      With respect, I must disagree. A quick look at middle management in just about any corporation shows that the dodo not only survived, it's reproducing in record numbers. Christopher Duncan

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                      Super Lloyd
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                      thanks! that's helpful! ;-)

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                      • J JimmyRopes

                        Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

                        I would understand in Windows Server or Windows 2000, but even in WinXP? I though a guest account was a simple limited account with a specific name.

                        Let me understand this. Are you saying that permissions cannot be changed from what was originally set when the operating system was first installed? :confused:

                        Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
                        Think inside the box! ProActive Secure Systems
                        I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes

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                        Luis Alonso Ramos
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                        No, just that I thought that by default, the Guest account was a normal limited user. I know you can change all that (in Administrative Tools).

                        Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix Chihuahua, Mexico

                        My Blog!

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                        • S S Douglas

                          From Description of the Guest account in Windows XP[^] When you use the Guest account to log on, the following activities apply: • You do not require a password. • You cannot install software or hardware. • You cannot change the Guest account type. • You cannot create a password for the account. • You cannot change the Guest account picture. • You cannot access the applications that have already been installed on the computer. • You cannot access the files in the Shared Documents folder. • You cannot access the files in the Guest profile.


                          With respect, I must disagree. A quick look at middle management in just about any corporation shows that the dodo not only survived, it's reproducing in record numbers. Christopher Duncan

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                          Luis Alonso Ramos
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                          S Douglas wrote:

                          • You cannot install software or hardware

                          S Douglas wrote:

                          You cannot access the applications that have already been installed on the computer

                          :confused: I have a Guest account in my laptop (so that when I lend it, the user doesn't get into "personal" stuff) and they've been able to use all of the applications they have tried (Office mostly).

                          Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix Chihuahua, Mexico

                          My Blog!

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