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  • S Sarath C

    I have a portable USB HDD. No external power supply. From yesterday onwards, it is not working properly. It's taking long time to copy files. and most probably it ends with time out. I checked for Bad sectors but there's no problem with the data. Next I doubt on the case which I'm using. It's a low cost one. I've assembled the HDD some time back(3-4 months). Is the controller making the issue(??) What could be the issue?

    -Sarath_._ "Great hopes make everything great possible" - Benjamin Franklin

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    Mike Dimmick
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    IDE hard drives have a tendency to keep retrying silently if errors occur, rather than report the error quickly. You notice a general slowdown in performance. I would try a different disk to see if you get different results.

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    • S Shouvik Das

      try using it in some other system. If the problem persists then change the USB casing. your Hard Disk has no problem. Don get scared you need not replace it.


      There are only two kinds of people who are really fascinating-people who know absolutely everything, and people who know absolutely nothing. Oscar Wilde (1854-1900) Regards... Shouvik

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      Luc Pattyn
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      shouvik.d wrote:

      your Hard Disk has no problem

      I see no information that backs this up. It may be true, it may be false. As the OP's system has problems, chances are the disk is at fault.

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      • S Sarath C

        This is Hitachi 160 GB, 2.5" (Im not sure whether it is 1.8"). Ez.Digix case (brought from Japan.). It's a cheap case cost nearly 800 Yen (250 INR). My files are not fragmented. Anyway I tried to de-frag the volume. But it's still facing some problems I believe

        -Sarath_._ "Great hopes make everything great possible" - Benjamin Franklin

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        realJSOP
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        You may need more power than a USB port provides. Get an A/C adapter and see if that helps. Someone else suggested defragging the drive - that might help.

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        • S Sarath C

          I have a portable USB HDD. No external power supply. From yesterday onwards, it is not working properly. It's taking long time to copy files. and most probably it ends with time out. I checked for Bad sectors but there's no problem with the data. Next I doubt on the case which I'm using. It's a low cost one. I've assembled the HDD some time back(3-4 months). Is the controller making the issue(??) What could be the issue?

          -Sarath_._ "Great hopes make everything great possible" - Benjamin Franklin

          My blog - Sharing My Thoughts, An Article - Understanding Statepattern

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          Luc Pattyn
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          Hi, some disks have "SMART" technology built-in (Self Monitoring something). Google for "disk SMART utility" or something like that, download and run the tool, it will tell you whether your disk supports it, and if it does, how healthy it is. I am not sure SMART works over USB too though. :)

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            shouvik.d wrote:

            your Hard Disk has no problem

            I see no information that backs this up. It may be true, it may be false. As the OP's system has problems, chances are the disk is at fault.

            Luc Pattyn


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            Shouvik Das
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            The thing is if there is a Hrd disk problem more or less it will reslt in corrption of Data rather than slow copy. So generally what happens is the inteface is either 1.1 at times or there is severe fragmentation becase external hard disks are more often sbjected to data transactions like a pen drive. I too had the same problem but got rectified. Hitachi Harddisks have the maximum market share in Laptop harddisks. They are really reliable. I know I'm talking on topic without sfficient proof. the OP can verify with other Hardware vendors too.


            There are only two kinds of people who are really fascinating-people who know absolutely everything, and people who know absolutely nothing. Oscar Wilde (1854-1900) Regards... Shouvik

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              Hi, some disks have "SMART" technology built-in (Self Monitoring something). Google for "disk SMART utility" or something like that, download and run the tool, it will tell you whether your disk supports it, and if it does, how healthy it is. I am not sure SMART works over USB too though. :)

              Luc Pattyn


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              Shouvik Das
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              Luc Pattyn wrote:

              I am not sure SMART works over USB too though.

              SMART works over IDE interface. What OP is using is an IDE to USB interface. It is used as a removable storage device


              There are only two kinds of people who are really fascinating-people who know absolutely everything, and people who know absolutely nothing. Oscar Wilde (1854-1900) Regards... Shouvik

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                You may need more power than a USB port provides. Get an A/C adapter and see if that helps. Someone else suggested defragging the drive - that might help.

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                Shouvik Das
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                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                Get an A/C adapter and see if that helps

                This 1.8" Harddisks are laptop harddisks placed inside a 2.5" casing containing an IDE to USB interface. They draw power from USB only. you have no sockets to give A/C input.


                There are only two kinds of people who are really fascinating-people who know absolutely everything, and people who know absolutely nothing. Oscar Wilde (1854-1900) Regards... Shouvik

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                  Luc Pattyn wrote:

                  I am not sure SMART works over USB too though.

                  SMART works over IDE interface. What OP is using is an IDE to USB interface. It is used as a removable storage device


                  There are only two kinds of people who are really fascinating-people who know absolutely everything, and people who know absolutely nothing. Oscar Wilde (1854-1900) Regards... Shouvik

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                  Luc Pattyn
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                  USB would not prevent someone from implementing SMART; for it to be available, both the disk, the USB-to-IDE converter and the Windows driver must support it. As I said, I don't know whether the PC side is OK, and I sure don't know about the actual device at hand. :)

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                  • S Shouvik Das

                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    Get an A/C adapter and see if that helps

                    This 1.8" Harddisks are laptop harddisks placed inside a 2.5" casing containing an IDE to USB interface. They draw power from USB only. you have no sockets to give A/C input.


                    There are only two kinds of people who are really fascinating-people who know absolutely everything, and people who know absolutely nothing. Oscar Wilde (1854-1900) Regards... Shouvik

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                    Sarath C
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                    I've a cable which can connect to two USB ports. Let me try this option. Thanks alot for the info. Defragging did not help me.

                    -Sarath_._ "Great hopes make everything great possible" - Benjamin Franklin

                    My blog - Sharing My Thoughts, An Article - Understanding Statepattern

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                    • S Shouvik Das

                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                      Get an A/C adapter and see if that helps

                      This 1.8" Harddisks are laptop harddisks placed inside a 2.5" casing containing an IDE to USB interface. They draw power from USB only. you have no sockets to give A/C input.


                      There are only two kinds of people who are really fascinating-people who know absolutely everything, and people who know absolutely nothing. Oscar Wilde (1854-1900) Regards... Shouvik

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                      realJSOP
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                      Some do, some don't. Check out NewEgg.

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      • S Sarath C

                        I have a portable USB HDD. No external power supply. From yesterday onwards, it is not working properly. It's taking long time to copy files. and most probably it ends with time out. I checked for Bad sectors but there's no problem with the data. Next I doubt on the case which I'm using. It's a low cost one. I've assembled the HDD some time back(3-4 months). Is the controller making the issue(??) What could be the issue?

                        -Sarath_._ "Great hopes make everything great possible" - Benjamin Franklin

                        My blog - Sharing My Thoughts, An Article - Understanding Statepattern

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                        S Douglas
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                        Sarath. wrote:

                        I checked for Bad sectors but there's no problem with the data.

                        How did you determine that there where no bad sectors? I have a drive that is dieing scandisk reports nothing wrong but the event log says otherwise. Check the event log for drive errors.


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