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    Does anyone actually install the Debug Symbols on their development machines? I have the symbols for Windows 2000, SP1 and SP2 on CD. Just trying to determine if it is worth installing them. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "In Summer, I like to dance naked on the roof to celebrate the event of the temperature finally falling below 40C (usually about midnight). But the neighbors have lately taken up the habit of staying up late. And looking up, at times, from their dreary, pointless lives..." - Roger Wright 15/05/2002

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      Does anyone actually install the Debug Symbols on their development machines? I have the symbols for Windows 2000, SP1 and SP2 on CD. Just trying to determine if it is worth installing them. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "In Summer, I like to dance naked on the roof to celebrate the event of the temperature finally falling below 40C (usually about midnight). But the neighbors have lately taken up the habit of staying up late. And looking up, at times, from their dreary, pointless lives..." - Roger Wright 15/05/2002

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      I never really installed debug symbols, however, i am very interested to know if there are debug symbols for the file pstorec.dll since I am doing research on this DLL and want to see if I could get some useful information from the debug symbols. If you come across it, let me know! Jeremy Pullicino http://www.drinkinginthesun.com "Hey man, Taliban, Tali me Banana."

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        Does anyone actually install the Debug Symbols on their development machines? I have the symbols for Windows 2000, SP1 and SP2 on CD. Just trying to determine if it is worth installing them. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "In Summer, I like to dance naked on the roof to celebrate the event of the temperature finally falling below 40C (usually about midnight). But the neighbors have lately taken up the habit of staying up late. And looking up, at times, from their dreary, pointless lives..." - Roger Wright 15/05/2002

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        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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        I always install them. Infact I hate debugging on machines where they are not installed. I find them very valuable not only for debugging but also for reverse engineering Windows code.

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          Does anyone actually install the Debug Symbols on their development machines? I have the symbols for Windows 2000, SP1 and SP2 on CD. Just trying to determine if it is worth installing them. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "In Summer, I like to dance naked on the roof to celebrate the event of the temperature finally falling below 40C (usually about midnight). But the neighbors have lately taken up the habit of staying up late. And looking up, at times, from their dreary, pointless lives..." - Roger Wright 15/05/2002

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          Hell YES!!!! In fact, I am using the debug symbol server now. :) Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?

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            I always install them. Infact I hate debugging on machines where they are not installed. I find them very valuable not only for debugging but also for reverse engineering Windows code.

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            Rama Krishna wrote: I always install them. Infact I hate debugging on machines where they are not installed. I find them very valuable not only for debugging but also for reverse engineering Windows code. Well sounds like I better get my finger out and install them. I did install them on my old machine, but it was so slow I didn't end up coding on it. So I didn't use them to see if they were useful. Also from memory the original symbols install easily but the service pack ones had some new directories that needed manual intervention. Not sure if this is actually true though, bad memory and all. When you say reverse engineering Windows, what do you actually mean? Not inferring anything illegal is happening just interested what you do. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "In Summer, I like to dance naked on the roof to celebrate the event of the temperature finally falling below 40C (usually about midnight). But the neighbors have lately taken up the habit of staying up late. And looking up, at times, from their dreary, pointless lives..." - Roger Wright 15/05/2002

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              Rama Krishna wrote: I always install them. Infact I hate debugging on machines where they are not installed. I find them very valuable not only for debugging but also for reverse engineering Windows code. Well sounds like I better get my finger out and install them. I did install them on my old machine, but it was so slow I didn't end up coding on it. So I didn't use them to see if they were useful. Also from memory the original symbols install easily but the service pack ones had some new directories that needed manual intervention. Not sure if this is actually true though, bad memory and all. When you say reverse engineering Windows, what do you actually mean? Not inferring anything illegal is happening just interested what you do. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "In Summer, I like to dance naked on the roof to celebrate the event of the temperature finally falling below 40C (usually about midnight). But the neighbors have lately taken up the habit of staying up late. And looking up, at times, from their dreary, pointless lives..." - Roger Wright 15/05/2002

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              Michael Martin wrote: Not inferring anything illegal is happening just interested what you do. Of course it is nothing illegal. I just try to understand how some functions in Windows work. Example, CoInitialize you can find out what is all does? You need extereme patience to do that. .NET debug symbols were very useful in understanding how the method calls actually get done. If my application crashes I can find out whether it is my fault or windows fault. Infact I have seen people finding all kind of useful stuff using debug symbols.

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                Hell YES!!!! In fact, I am using the debug symbol server now. :) Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?

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                Tim Smith wrote: Hell YES!!!! Another vote for installing them. Tim Smith wrote: In fact, I am using the debug symbol server now. Excuse the ignorance, but does this mean you are using the Windows 2000 Server version of the symbols or a Microsoft online resource for symbols :confused: Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "In Summer, I like to dance naked on the roof to celebrate the event of the temperature finally falling below 40C (usually about midnight). But the neighbors have lately taken up the habit of staying up late. And looking up, at times, from their dreary, pointless lives..." - Roger Wright 15/05/2002

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                  Does anyone actually install the Debug Symbols on their development machines? I have the symbols for Windows 2000, SP1 and SP2 on CD. Just trying to determine if it is worth installing them. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "In Summer, I like to dance naked on the roof to celebrate the event of the temperature finally falling below 40C (usually about midnight). But the neighbors have lately taken up the habit of staying up late. And looking up, at times, from their dreary, pointless lives..." - Roger Wright 15/05/2002

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                  I've never installed them - not becuase I don't want to install them, but becuase I don't know how! Every time I try to install them, I get a ton of errors. Not sure if it's becuase I'm running with Windows 2000 SP2 and Visual SP5, and that messes up the install or something... :confused: So I've always just given up and not put in the effort to figure out how to do it. No generalization is 100% true. Not even this one.

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                    I've never installed them - not becuase I don't want to install them, but becuase I don't know how! Every time I try to install them, I get a ton of errors. Not sure if it's becuase I'm running with Windows 2000 SP2 and Visual SP5, and that messes up the install or something... :confused: So I've always just given up and not put in the effort to figure out how to do it. No generalization is 100% true. Not even this one.

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                    Navin wrote: I've never installed them - not becuase I don't want to install them, but becuase I don't know how! Every time I try to install them, I get a ton of errors. Not sure if it's becuase I'm running with Windows 2000 SP2 and Visual SP5, and that messes up the install or something... :confused: So I've always just given up and not put in the effort to figure out how to do it. I have the same setup as you and successfully installed the Windows 2000/SP1/SP2 symbols this afternoon. Do you have the symbols downloaded on HDD or on a CD or are you trying to install from the web? Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "In Summer, I like to dance naked on the roof to celebrate the event of the temperature finally falling below 40C (usually about midnight). But the neighbors have lately taken up the habit of staying up late. And looking up, at times, from their dreary, pointless lives..." - Roger Wright 15/05/2002

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