How many hours do you work?
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I am just curious how many hours most cpians actually work. I have been doing programming for a while and find I have a fairly addictive personality, so hours work does not mean a whole lot to me. But, my loving wife is always rattling my cage about working too many hours. So I am just curious what number of hours is the norm for people who come on this site. For me, a problem I have is I love what I do and I have a commitment to deliver, even if it requires occasionally extra hours. On average I work about 50-55 hours a week with some 60-70 hour weeks peppered in. Just Curious? Aaron
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Around 36-45 hours. I don't exceed 50hours, that's for sure. If I consider personal projects and consultant work, then I am spending around 65hours/week. God bless, Ernest Laurentin
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Baconbutty wrote:
The door shuts, mind closes until tomorrow.
You can do that? I wish I could as the only time I feel that I am away from my job is when I go on vacation and I do not bring any electronic devices with me...
John
Mental visualization is a terrible and wonderful thing, aint it!! Sometimes I forget that I get paid for this. I love the feeling of realization, you know, you pulled out your hair, looked at the problem every way possible, and then you are talking with your wife and all of a sudden, AHA, the solution becomes so clear. I know, visualizing code during discussions is bad, but it is not always controllable. :-D Aaron
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I am just curious how many hours most cpians actually work. I have been doing programming for a while and find I have a fairly addictive personality, so hours work does not mean a whole lot to me. But, my loving wife is always rattling my cage about working too many hours. So I am just curious what number of hours is the norm for people who come on this site. For me, a problem I have is I love what I do and I have a commitment to deliver, even if it requires occasionally extra hours. On average I work about 50-55 hours a week with some 60-70 hour weeks peppered in. Just Curious? Aaron
_____________________________________________________________________ Our developers never release code. Rather, it tends to escape, pillaging the countryside all around. The Enlightenment Project (paraphrased comment) Visit Me at GISDevCafe
You have yellow-belt-syndrome. I'll never forget studying Kenpo for years... when I got my yellow belt. I thought I could take all comers and leave em hurting. I was ready to take on the world. I studied forever. I worked out at every session. I starched my clothing rigorously. I put all I had into it. Then a rather veteran brown belt (my older brother, who is one heck of an awesome guy) pulled me over and said, "Look. Rome wasn't built in day. New York doesn't get it all done in 8 hours. Inspiration is great but make sure you temper your inspiration with a balance for the rest of your life." As young as I was I had no clue what he meant. Then I became self-employed in 2004 and started working 100 hour weeks in a fight for family and life. He gave me the same chat and at 30 I was too young to understand what he meant. Now at 33 I understand what he meant. If you are truly inspired that is one thing. But use caution lest your inspiration become you. I'd suggest that your wife may not want "more" of your time but she wants her time with you to have "more" value. I don't know this for certain but all I can say is defer to your wife in this. God help me for saying this but our wives seem to understand our needs better than we do. I think your wife is vocalizing more concern over you and working so much than she is over time with her. She's putting herself on your chopping block though to try and make you see that. If you are more curious then you need to give me a call sometime so I can tell you more of my story, what it *now* means to me and why I think you should get your job done and then *RACE* home to be with your wife who will someday be the matriarch of your family. Marines have a few sayings that I like: - "Pain is weakness leaving the body." - "God, Country, Corp, Family" But here's my own saying: - "Put your family higher up in your priorities than you place yourself and then start counting your many blessings." What really got me was watching my grandparents die. My grandfather was a brilliant nuclear physicist, built Anderson Dam and ran it for 25 years. He was the most loving knife craftsmen you have ever seen. He neglected his family and devoted his life to his work. We still loved him and we tried so hard to be there for him. But he died by having massive heart failure in the bathroom, falling over and rupturing his skull on the toilet and he was entirely alone. My mother found him hours later. My grandmother dedicated her entire life to her family. Her grandchildren she counted as her greatest bles
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I am just curious how many hours most cpians actually work. I have been doing programming for a while and find I have a fairly addictive personality, so hours work does not mean a whole lot to me. But, my loving wife is always rattling my cage about working too many hours. So I am just curious what number of hours is the norm for people who come on this site. For me, a problem I have is I love what I do and I have a commitment to deliver, even if it requires occasionally extra hours. On average I work about 50-55 hours a week with some 60-70 hour weeks peppered in. Just Curious? Aaron
_____________________________________________________________________ Our developers never release code. Rather, it tends to escape, pillaging the countryside all around. The Enlightenment Project (paraphrased comment) Visit Me at GISDevCafe
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Mental visualization is a terrible and wonderful thing, aint it!! Sometimes I forget that I get paid for this. I love the feeling of realization, you know, you pulled out your hair, looked at the problem every way possible, and then you are talking with your wife and all of a sudden, AHA, the solution becomes so clear. I know, visualizing code during discussions is bad, but it is not always controllable. :-D Aaron
_____________________________________________________________________ Our developers never release code. Rather, it tends to escape, pillaging the countryside all around. The Enlightenment Project (paraphrased comment) Visit Me at GISDevCafe
It's nice the way you describe it and you may truly enjoy what you're doing. However, the bottom line is you work to get paid so that you can live and enjoy life with your friends and family. The job is just means to reach that goal. If you enjoy what you're doing, all the better, you are among few people who enjoy their work. However, like I said, family, friends and personal life should come first. I have no problem with working long hours in a bind, however losing sight of the objective is a very dangerous thing. You can always find a new job should you employers not be satisfied with your 40 hour a week performance, however you cannot find new family just as easy.
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You have yellow-belt-syndrome. I'll never forget studying Kenpo for years... when I got my yellow belt. I thought I could take all comers and leave em hurting. I was ready to take on the world. I studied forever. I worked out at every session. I starched my clothing rigorously. I put all I had into it. Then a rather veteran brown belt (my older brother, who is one heck of an awesome guy) pulled me over and said, "Look. Rome wasn't built in day. New York doesn't get it all done in 8 hours. Inspiration is great but make sure you temper your inspiration with a balance for the rest of your life." As young as I was I had no clue what he meant. Then I became self-employed in 2004 and started working 100 hour weeks in a fight for family and life. He gave me the same chat and at 30 I was too young to understand what he meant. Now at 33 I understand what he meant. If you are truly inspired that is one thing. But use caution lest your inspiration become you. I'd suggest that your wife may not want "more" of your time but she wants her time with you to have "more" value. I don't know this for certain but all I can say is defer to your wife in this. God help me for saying this but our wives seem to understand our needs better than we do. I think your wife is vocalizing more concern over you and working so much than she is over time with her. She's putting herself on your chopping block though to try and make you see that. If you are more curious then you need to give me a call sometime so I can tell you more of my story, what it *now* means to me and why I think you should get your job done and then *RACE* home to be with your wife who will someday be the matriarch of your family. Marines have a few sayings that I like: - "Pain is weakness leaving the body." - "God, Country, Corp, Family" But here's my own saying: - "Put your family higher up in your priorities than you place yourself and then start counting your many blessings." What really got me was watching my grandparents die. My grandfather was a brilliant nuclear physicist, built Anderson Dam and ran it for 25 years. He was the most loving knife craftsmen you have ever seen. He neglected his family and devoted his life to his work. We still loved him and we tried so hard to be there for him. But he died by having massive heart failure in the bathroom, falling over and rupturing his skull on the toilet and he was entirely alone. My mother found him hours later. My grandmother dedicated her entire life to her family. Her grandchildren she counted as her greatest bles
Ill definately take that to heart code frog. I have read your story and find it truly inspiring. I wish you luck. Aaron
_____________________________________________________________________ Our developers never release code. Rather, it tends to escape, pillaging the countryside all around. The Enlightenment Project (paraphrased comment) Visit Me at GISDevCafe
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I am just curious how many hours most cpians actually work. I have been doing programming for a while and find I have a fairly addictive personality, so hours work does not mean a whole lot to me. But, my loving wife is always rattling my cage about working too many hours. So I am just curious what number of hours is the norm for people who come on this site. For me, a problem I have is I love what I do and I have a commitment to deliver, even if it requires occasionally extra hours. On average I work about 50-55 hours a week with some 60-70 hour weeks peppered in. Just Curious? Aaron
_____________________________________________________________________ Our developers never release code. Rather, it tends to escape, pillaging the countryside all around. The Enlightenment Project (paraphrased comment) Visit Me at GISDevCafe
I work 40-45 hours a week at my 'day job'. If I've got an outside contract, I'll put in up to 20 hours a week on that.
Software Zen:
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You guys work so much... 80-90 hrs of work with no fun..you all must be a millionare ..isn't it ? hmm One day when you ll realize to have some fun that day you might be 60+ :-D:-D:-D So work and fun should go equally...
I really enjoy my work, so for me time spent working is time spent having fun! :-D
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You have yellow-belt-syndrome. I'll never forget studying Kenpo for years... when I got my yellow belt. I thought I could take all comers and leave em hurting. I was ready to take on the world. I studied forever. I worked out at every session. I starched my clothing rigorously. I put all I had into it. Then a rather veteran brown belt (my older brother, who is one heck of an awesome guy) pulled me over and said, "Look. Rome wasn't built in day. New York doesn't get it all done in 8 hours. Inspiration is great but make sure you temper your inspiration with a balance for the rest of your life." As young as I was I had no clue what he meant. Then I became self-employed in 2004 and started working 100 hour weeks in a fight for family and life. He gave me the same chat and at 30 I was too young to understand what he meant. Now at 33 I understand what he meant. If you are truly inspired that is one thing. But use caution lest your inspiration become you. I'd suggest that your wife may not want "more" of your time but she wants her time with you to have "more" value. I don't know this for certain but all I can say is defer to your wife in this. God help me for saying this but our wives seem to understand our needs better than we do. I think your wife is vocalizing more concern over you and working so much than she is over time with her. She's putting herself on your chopping block though to try and make you see that. If you are more curious then you need to give me a call sometime so I can tell you more of my story, what it *now* means to me and why I think you should get your job done and then *RACE* home to be with your wife who will someday be the matriarch of your family. Marines have a few sayings that I like: - "Pain is weakness leaving the body." - "God, Country, Corp, Family" But here's my own saying: - "Put your family higher up in your priorities than you place yourself and then start counting your many blessings." What really got me was watching my grandparents die. My grandfather was a brilliant nuclear physicist, built Anderson Dam and ran it for 25 years. He was the most loving knife craftsmen you have ever seen. He neglected his family and devoted his life to his work. We still loved him and we tried so hard to be there for him. But he died by having massive heart failure in the bathroom, falling over and rupturing his skull on the toilet and he was entirely alone. My mother found him hours later. My grandmother dedicated her entire life to her family. Her grandchildren she counted as her greatest bles
code-frog wrote:
When you life begins to fade it won't be source code that gives you comfort.
Amen.
Software Zen:
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It's nice the way you describe it and you may truly enjoy what you're doing. However, the bottom line is you work to get paid so that you can live and enjoy life with your friends and family. The job is just means to reach that goal. If you enjoy what you're doing, all the better, you are among few people who enjoy their work. However, like I said, family, friends and personal life should come first. I have no problem with working long hours in a bind, however losing sight of the objective is a very dangerous thing. You can always find a new job should you employers not be satisfied with your 40 hour a week performance, however you cannot find new family just as easy.
JazzJackRabbit wrote:
You can always find a new job should you employers not be satisfied with your 40 hour a week performance, however you cannot find new family just as easy.
Amen to that. I'm living proof of it as well. In 10 years time I've worked for 6 different employers. I don't mind collecting W-2's, and 401k's roll over. I have no problem letting my home phone ring, my cell phone ring, and my inbox fill up when it's not between the hours of 8am - 5pm. I know people who actually seem to have a Pavlovian response to telephones. The moment it rings they believe the world is going to end if they don't answer it. As far as I'm concerned, CallerID and answering machines are two of the best additions to modern life ever invented. I've been known to sit in front of the television and not even LOOK at the caller ID when the phone's ringing. Simply put, I don't care. If it's an emergency, then obviously they'll leave a message and I can get back to them. But that's just it: *I* decide what an emergency is for *me*. I don't give other people that power. I exist on this planet to enjoy life. And for me, that is defined as having time with my family. Any and all other considerations are secondary to that. In a conflict between my job and my family, my family will always win. I've had 5 different employers in my son's 7 years of life. But I've never missed a single event of his. I don't care if it's "crunch time" either. My son's 2nd grade play so greatly outranks any deliverable schedule as to be a laughable comparison. I've been fired before. It's no longer a mystery to me. Life goes on. There will *always* be another employer right around the corner for people with marketable skills.