Working conditions
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I've just read Justin's post that has recently been moved to the soapbox and there was something that stroke me as odd. He mentioned I work in a pretty small office, maybe 30 programmers/electrical engineers. I know the US is a fan and pioneer of cubicles, but a numerous books of management and productivity at the work place have been written as of 1999 (the eldest I can remember: Peopleware - by Tom DeMarco and Timothy Lister) which bring to attention the fact that poorly designed working places have a great negative impact on productivity. Is nobody reading them anymore? Working conditions are something I take into balance seriously when presented with a new job offer because they're an important factor in job satisfaction, and I'm sure others feel the same. I'm just curious. What are your working conditions in regard to space and occupancy? Our location comprises of 3 rooms with 4 people in each with plenty of space to go along.
Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy
The office is actually pretty large, by small I meant the number of people here. Being that this is my in office job, 30 people might actually be very large, I don't know. There are 8 Offices, about 20 x 15 feet. The rest are cubicles, which are 10x10 feet. They are fairly spacious, I feel I have plenty of room. The chair they gave me is very comfortable, which is all I care about, mostly.
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I've just read Justin's post that has recently been moved to the soapbox and there was something that stroke me as odd. He mentioned I work in a pretty small office, maybe 30 programmers/electrical engineers. I know the US is a fan and pioneer of cubicles, but a numerous books of management and productivity at the work place have been written as of 1999 (the eldest I can remember: Peopleware - by Tom DeMarco and Timothy Lister) which bring to attention the fact that poorly designed working places have a great negative impact on productivity. Is nobody reading them anymore? Working conditions are something I take into balance seriously when presented with a new job offer because they're an important factor in job satisfaction, and I'm sure others feel the same. I'm just curious. What are your working conditions in regard to space and occupancy? Our location comprises of 3 rooms with 4 people in each with plenty of space to go along.
Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy
Mircea Grelus wrote:
I'm just curious. What are your working conditions in regard to space and occupancy?
I have my own office, the others share. But mine is going away. Only management will have their own offices, we'll have a lab and shared working environments. Industry flexes from time to time, right now it is moving toward group-as-a-group organization and development. So the group shares the space, shares the equipment, is constantly around each other to help/hinder as the case may be (hopefully more of the former than latter).
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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I've just read Justin's post that has recently been moved to the soapbox and there was something that stroke me as odd. He mentioned I work in a pretty small office, maybe 30 programmers/electrical engineers. I know the US is a fan and pioneer of cubicles, but a numerous books of management and productivity at the work place have been written as of 1999 (the eldest I can remember: Peopleware - by Tom DeMarco and Timothy Lister) which bring to attention the fact that poorly designed working places have a great negative impact on productivity. Is nobody reading them anymore? Working conditions are something I take into balance seriously when presented with a new job offer because they're an important factor in job satisfaction, and I'm sure others feel the same. I'm just curious. What are your working conditions in regard to space and occupancy? Our location comprises of 3 rooms with 4 people in each with plenty of space to go along.
Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy
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I've just read Justin's post that has recently been moved to the soapbox and there was something that stroke me as odd. He mentioned I work in a pretty small office, maybe 30 programmers/electrical engineers. I know the US is a fan and pioneer of cubicles, but a numerous books of management and productivity at the work place have been written as of 1999 (the eldest I can remember: Peopleware - by Tom DeMarco and Timothy Lister) which bring to attention the fact that poorly designed working places have a great negative impact on productivity. Is nobody reading them anymore? Working conditions are something I take into balance seriously when presented with a new job offer because they're an important factor in job satisfaction, and I'm sure others feel the same. I'm just curious. What are your working conditions in regard to space and occupancy? Our location comprises of 3 rooms with 4 people in each with plenty of space to go along.
Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy
Since we are a small group so everyone has their own office. Mine is around 11 foot x 11 foot and almost every inch of wall space is dominated by computer equipment...
John
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I've just read Justin's post that has recently been moved to the soapbox and there was something that stroke me as odd. He mentioned I work in a pretty small office, maybe 30 programmers/electrical engineers. I know the US is a fan and pioneer of cubicles, but a numerous books of management and productivity at the work place have been written as of 1999 (the eldest I can remember: Peopleware - by Tom DeMarco and Timothy Lister) which bring to attention the fact that poorly designed working places have a great negative impact on productivity. Is nobody reading them anymore? Working conditions are something I take into balance seriously when presented with a new job offer because they're an important factor in job satisfaction, and I'm sure others feel the same. I'm just curious. What are your working conditions in regard to space and occupancy? Our location comprises of 3 rooms with 4 people in each with plenty of space to go along.
Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy
Mircea Grelus wrote:
What are your working conditions in regard to space and occupancy?
Office: tiny cube. So i work from home most days. Plenty of room, provided i don't leave too much stuff piled around...
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I've just read Justin's post that has recently been moved to the soapbox and there was something that stroke me as odd. He mentioned I work in a pretty small office, maybe 30 programmers/electrical engineers. I know the US is a fan and pioneer of cubicles, but a numerous books of management and productivity at the work place have been written as of 1999 (the eldest I can remember: Peopleware - by Tom DeMarco and Timothy Lister) which bring to attention the fact that poorly designed working places have a great negative impact on productivity. Is nobody reading them anymore? Working conditions are something I take into balance seriously when presented with a new job offer because they're an important factor in job satisfaction, and I'm sure others feel the same. I'm just curious. What are your working conditions in regard to space and occupancy? Our location comprises of 3 rooms with 4 people in each with plenty of space to go along.
Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy
Yeah corporate business is ALL OVER IT dude! Cubicles, no control over lighting, temperature or noise. No door to shut so people just walk up and start talking to you. As you can see the company spares no expense in providing developers with a highly productive environment (they call it "Synergy") to go alone with with one of their major tenets "being deadline focused". Yes as Scott Adams (Dilbert) points out very clearly, managers/executives are completely useless (in most cases) and are nothing more than monkeys in suits.
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Mircea Grelus wrote:
I'm just curious. What are your working conditions in regard to space and occupancy?
I have my own office, the others share. But mine is going away. Only management will have their own offices, we'll have a lab and shared working environments. Industry flexes from time to time, right now it is moving toward group-as-a-group organization and development. So the group shares the space, shares the equipment, is constantly around each other to help/hinder as the case may be (hopefully more of the former than latter).
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
WOW AN OFFICE!!! like with 4 walls? Did you design the original layout of the office?
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I've just read Justin's post that has recently been moved to the soapbox and there was something that stroke me as odd. He mentioned I work in a pretty small office, maybe 30 programmers/electrical engineers. I know the US is a fan and pioneer of cubicles, but a numerous books of management and productivity at the work place have been written as of 1999 (the eldest I can remember: Peopleware - by Tom DeMarco and Timothy Lister) which bring to attention the fact that poorly designed working places have a great negative impact on productivity. Is nobody reading them anymore? Working conditions are something I take into balance seriously when presented with a new job offer because they're an important factor in job satisfaction, and I'm sure others feel the same. I'm just curious. What are your working conditions in regard to space and occupancy? Our location comprises of 3 rooms with 4 people in each with plenty of space to go along.
Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy
I work in a hedge fund. I myself have my own office as do the other 3 people who are apart of the company and then we have interns who write small programs and monitor trading. They have their own large rooms with several computers at their disposal. No cubicles.
Think of it this way...using a Stradivarius violin to pound nails should not be considered a sound construction technique
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I've just read Justin's post that has recently been moved to the soapbox and there was something that stroke me as odd. He mentioned I work in a pretty small office, maybe 30 programmers/electrical engineers. I know the US is a fan and pioneer of cubicles, but a numerous books of management and productivity at the work place have been written as of 1999 (the eldest I can remember: Peopleware - by Tom DeMarco and Timothy Lister) which bring to attention the fact that poorly designed working places have a great negative impact on productivity. Is nobody reading them anymore? Working conditions are something I take into balance seriously when presented with a new job offer because they're an important factor in job satisfaction, and I'm sure others feel the same. I'm just curious. What are your working conditions in regard to space and occupancy? Our location comprises of 3 rooms with 4 people in each with plenty of space to go along.
Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy
I run my business out of my house and it's pretty comfortable. I work in of a nice cozy 16x12 office that has nice amenities like colorful walls, nice paintings and photos &, a 70lb 15 year old Doberman sleeping at my feet.
My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long
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I've just read Justin's post that has recently been moved to the soapbox and there was something that stroke me as odd. He mentioned I work in a pretty small office, maybe 30 programmers/electrical engineers. I know the US is a fan and pioneer of cubicles, but a numerous books of management and productivity at the work place have been written as of 1999 (the eldest I can remember: Peopleware - by Tom DeMarco and Timothy Lister) which bring to attention the fact that poorly designed working places have a great negative impact on productivity. Is nobody reading them anymore? Working conditions are something I take into balance seriously when presented with a new job offer because they're an important factor in job satisfaction, and I'm sure others feel the same. I'm just curious. What are your working conditions in regard to space and occupancy? Our location comprises of 3 rooms with 4 people in each with plenty of space to go along.
Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy
I work in a 9 x 9 Cubical. I am the only one in it, luckily. I am mildly ADD and almost everything distracts me. Years ago, when we were moved to a common area, I got almost nothing done due to the distractions. I started signing up for conference rooms so I could go in there by myself and focus.
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WOW AN OFFICE!!! like with 4 walls? Did you design the original layout of the office?
StevenWalsh wrote:
Did you design the original layout of the office?
oh, yeah... sure... on my -22th birthday I designed it. I work in post WWII buildings. ;P
StevenWalsh wrote:
like with 4 walls?
yup, 4 walls, blackboard, fusebox in my office and even a window (looks directly into the side of the next building -- but if I lean a LOT, I can see mountains). I inherited it from my boss when she left. Back then there were only three of us for all the programming tasks, we all three had offices. We've hired more, but I still had the office, but no more. :sigh:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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I've just read Justin's post that has recently been moved to the soapbox and there was something that stroke me as odd. He mentioned I work in a pretty small office, maybe 30 programmers/electrical engineers. I know the US is a fan and pioneer of cubicles, but a numerous books of management and productivity at the work place have been written as of 1999 (the eldest I can remember: Peopleware - by Tom DeMarco and Timothy Lister) which bring to attention the fact that poorly designed working places have a great negative impact on productivity. Is nobody reading them anymore? Working conditions are something I take into balance seriously when presented with a new job offer because they're an important factor in job satisfaction, and I'm sure others feel the same. I'm just curious. What are your working conditions in regard to space and occupancy? Our location comprises of 3 rooms with 4 people in each with plenty of space to go along.
Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy
I work from home in a cosy office with a lovely view over the Berkshire countryside. Right now I can smell the cakes my wife and daughter are baking in the kitchen downstairs, behind me one of our cats is gently snoring, and within reaching distance is an acoustic guitar I sometimes pick up when my laptop is busy linking one of my enormous projects. I have my iPod hi-fi on shuffle (loud as I like) and, well, life is good. However, I do tend to forget the time and often end up working longer hours than I would do if I commuted into the office every day. Still, I don't miss the drive - especially in the winter. When I do go in I still have the luxury of my own office, although I am amazed it hasn't been torn down to expand the open-plan office next door. I think that is only a matter of time - I have worked for this company for nearly 20 years, so I guess no-one wants to upset me just yet. :)
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I run my business out of my house and it's pretty comfortable. I work in of a nice cozy 16x12 office that has nice amenities like colorful walls, nice paintings and photos &, a 70lb 15 year old Doberman sleeping at my feet.
My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long
Chris Austin wrote:
a 70lb 15 year old Doberman sleeping at my feet
Ah. This explains your comment about your 'significant other' a day or two ago. :)
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StevenWalsh wrote:
Did you design the original layout of the office?
oh, yeah... sure... on my -22th birthday I designed it. I work in post WWII buildings. ;P
StevenWalsh wrote:
like with 4 walls?
yup, 4 walls, blackboard, fusebox in my office and even a window (looks directly into the side of the next building -- but if I lean a LOT, I can see mountains). I inherited it from my boss when she left. Back then there were only three of us for all the programming tasks, we all three had offices. We've hired more, but I still had the office, but no more. :sigh:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
El Corazon wrote:
oh, yeah... sure... on my -22th birthday I designed it. I work in post WWII buildings.
I was referncing a dilbert episode where he redesigned the office building so he could have his own office :)
El Corazon wrote:
yup, 4 walls, blackboard, fusebox in my office and even a window (looks directly into the side of the next building -- but if I lean a LOT, I can see mountains). I inherited it from my boss when she left. Back then there were only three of us for all the programming tasks, we all three had offices. We've hired more, but I still had the office, but no more.
There was hope for programmers around the world until that last part :(
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I've just read Justin's post that has recently been moved to the soapbox and there was something that stroke me as odd. He mentioned I work in a pretty small office, maybe 30 programmers/electrical engineers. I know the US is a fan and pioneer of cubicles, but a numerous books of management and productivity at the work place have been written as of 1999 (the eldest I can remember: Peopleware - by Tom DeMarco and Timothy Lister) which bring to attention the fact that poorly designed working places have a great negative impact on productivity. Is nobody reading them anymore? Working conditions are something I take into balance seriously when presented with a new job offer because they're an important factor in job satisfaction, and I'm sure others feel the same. I'm just curious. What are your working conditions in regard to space and occupancy? Our location comprises of 3 rooms with 4 people in each with plenty of space to go along.
Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy
I currently work in a 10x10 cube, in the middle of a farm of about 60. This is soon to turn into a 7x10 cube in another part of the building, in the middle of a farm of about 40. They're down-sizing all of the cubicles :suss: in order to make room for more hardware staff :(. Other than the size issues, the work environment's pretty good. The amenities in the building are great (cafeteria w/ hot food, fitness room w/ lockers, etc.). Even though the cube farms are pretty large, the noise problem isn't bad. They chose good quality cube materials (lots of sound absorbent foam).
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I've just read Justin's post that has recently been moved to the soapbox and there was something that stroke me as odd. He mentioned I work in a pretty small office, maybe 30 programmers/electrical engineers. I know the US is a fan and pioneer of cubicles, but a numerous books of management and productivity at the work place have been written as of 1999 (the eldest I can remember: Peopleware - by Tom DeMarco and Timothy Lister) which bring to attention the fact that poorly designed working places have a great negative impact on productivity. Is nobody reading them anymore? Working conditions are something I take into balance seriously when presented with a new job offer because they're an important factor in job satisfaction, and I'm sure others feel the same. I'm just curious. What are your working conditions in regard to space and occupancy? Our location comprises of 3 rooms with 4 people in each with plenty of space to go along.
Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy
I am looking at a new job and a small factor is air conditioning - at the current place if it is 22C outside with no breeze chocolate on my desk can melt! Lots of equipment and no ventilation. Of course this means I can't leave chocolate on my desk for long...
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I've just read Justin's post that has recently been moved to the soapbox and there was something that stroke me as odd. He mentioned I work in a pretty small office, maybe 30 programmers/electrical engineers. I know the US is a fan and pioneer of cubicles, but a numerous books of management and productivity at the work place have been written as of 1999 (the eldest I can remember: Peopleware - by Tom DeMarco and Timothy Lister) which bring to attention the fact that poorly designed working places have a great negative impact on productivity. Is nobody reading them anymore? Working conditions are something I take into balance seriously when presented with a new job offer because they're an important factor in job satisfaction, and I'm sure others feel the same. I'm just curious. What are your working conditions in regard to space and occupancy? Our location comprises of 3 rooms with 4 people in each with plenty of space to go along.
Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy
I work at home so my office is great. My team works in this office[^], and they better like it, or else. Mark
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I've just read Justin's post that has recently been moved to the soapbox and there was something that stroke me as odd. He mentioned I work in a pretty small office, maybe 30 programmers/electrical engineers. I know the US is a fan and pioneer of cubicles, but a numerous books of management and productivity at the work place have been written as of 1999 (the eldest I can remember: Peopleware - by Tom DeMarco and Timothy Lister) which bring to attention the fact that poorly designed working places have a great negative impact on productivity. Is nobody reading them anymore? Working conditions are something I take into balance seriously when presented with a new job offer because they're an important factor in job satisfaction, and I'm sure others feel the same. I'm just curious. What are your working conditions in regard to space and occupancy? Our location comprises of 3 rooms with 4 people in each with plenty of space to go along.
Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy
My cube is about 10 feet by 8 feet or something like that. There is good space in the rows between cubicles. When I worked at Citibank they were at the OSHA minimum to cram as many cubicles in as possible. There are offices in the building but it seems like people here prefer to be with others on the floor.
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I've just read Justin's post that has recently been moved to the soapbox and there was something that stroke me as odd. He mentioned I work in a pretty small office, maybe 30 programmers/electrical engineers. I know the US is a fan and pioneer of cubicles, but a numerous books of management and productivity at the work place have been written as of 1999 (the eldest I can remember: Peopleware - by Tom DeMarco and Timothy Lister) which bring to attention the fact that poorly designed working places have a great negative impact on productivity. Is nobody reading them anymore? Working conditions are something I take into balance seriously when presented with a new job offer because they're an important factor in job satisfaction, and I'm sure others feel the same. I'm just curious. What are your working conditions in regard to space and occupancy? Our location comprises of 3 rooms with 4 people in each with plenty of space to go along.
Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy
Office. But I still have to close the door and use headphones so I don't get interrupted by the noise outside from IT.
Todd Smith
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Chris Austin wrote:
a 70lb 15 year old Doberman sleeping at my feet
Ah. This explains your comment about your 'significant other' a day or two ago. :)
Software Zen:
delete this;OY! :)
My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long
