Speed of light finally broken?

[Josh Smith]

El Corazon wrote:

feeling a bit "puckish" today?

Yes. ;P

:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.

[Chris Maunder]

"in which particles summon up the energy to cross an apparently uncrossable barrier. " Oh man. Someone shoot that journalist. Or point him to this.[^]. There's no energy increase. That's why it's called "tunnelling". If they had summoned up the energy it would be "Quantum climbing-up-the-energy-barrier-and-getting-over-to-the-other-side. Which is no where near as catchy. Seems to me they have to be very careful here: they are relying on Qauntum effects and measuring things very closely whih can cause all sorts of things to happen to the photons waveform. Maybe it's not violation of Special Relativity but merely a problem with interpretation.

cheers, Chris Maunder

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[El Corazon]

Either I mistake your shape and making quite, Or else you are that shrewd and knavish sprite Call'd Robin Goodfellow: are not you he That frights the maidens of the villagery; Skim milk, and sometimes labour in the quern And bootless make the breathless housewife churn; And sometime make the drink to bear no barm; Mislead night-wanderers, laughing at their harm? Those that Hobgoblin call you and sweet Puck, You do their work, and they shall have good luck: Are not you he?

_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

[Roger Wright]

Good enough for me - I've always wanted to violate someone's causality. Now how do I hitch a ride on a photon?:-D

"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

[El Corazon]

Roger Wright wrote:

Now how do I hitch a ride on a photon?

first you must diet until you reach negligable mass... then....

_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

[Josh Smith]

El Corazon wrote:

And bootless make the breathless housewife churn;

Yeah, that's me. ;)

:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.

[Chris Losinger]

i'm guessing it was just a sloppy choice of metaphor.

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[Roger Wright]

:laugh::laugh::laugh: I'm nearly there, much to my coworkers' annoyance. They're all eating microwaved diet meals; I'm feasting on a heap of greasy chips smothered in cheese and guacamole.:-D

"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

[Anton Afanasyev]

Jim Crafton wrote:

Or was this just the typical misrepresentation of science by a journo unable to comprehend beyond the 6th grade?

That more like the truth. I still dont get how they can teach that "it turns back time". All that happens is that you start seeing things that happened some time ago, is all. You dont actually "turn back time", you just see the lighting that happened some time ago. Though even that is not _really_ possible, since light goes out in all direction from Earth, and since you cant just make an object(of a relatively large size) move at the speed of light immediately, the object will start moving at that speed somewhere in space, beyond Earth, where it just wont be able to see "object" as it does on Earth - they would be distorted due to light travelling in all directions. Not sure if what I said made sense, since its only my interpretation based on what I know/understand, but essentially it doesnt turn back time, you just start seeing objects as they appeared some time ago.

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[Nathan Holt at EMOM]

Jim Crafton wrote:

"Travelling faster than light also, in theory, turns back time. According to conventional physics, an astronaut moving beyond light speed would arrive at his destination before leaving." Does anyone know if this is *really* what current theories about this state? Or was this just the typical misrepresentation of science by a journo unable to comprehend beyond the 6th grade?

It's an over simplification. The special theory of reletivity describes how things traveling at different speeds have time going in different directions. If someone traveled faster than light to alpha centauri, he could easily arrive after he left from our view point, but someone traveling at near light speed in the right direction would see him arrive before he left. It is true that any means to travel faster than light can be used to travel back in time. Nathan Holt

[Dan Neely]

It is. When added relativistically your speed in space and speed in time equal the speed of light. If your speed in space is greater than C your speed in time actually is negative. It's not just outracing your photons you really could go back in time and try to kill your father before you were born.

-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

[Jorgen Sigvardsson]

You have to give the photon some extra boost. Speed = c does not violate causality. It will only violate the law of energy conservation. Since you have mass, you will have infinite kinetic energy, which means that all the energy in the universe will be in/on/with you (what is the proper preposition anyway?) Perhaps that is how big bang started? Some moron managed to travel at c :-D

-- Smell-o-vision users, insert nostril tubes now

[Jorgen Sigvardsson]

Atkins diet?

-- From the Makers of Futurama

[Paul Watson]

Chris Maunder wrote:

causality

Don't you love the way The Merovingian says that word? Monica Belluci is gorgeous and all but he makes that one word sexier than she can ever hope to be. Errr... back to that speed of light thing...

regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

Shog9 wrote:

And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

[Paul Watson]

I'm guessing it is more that unlike Chris and a few others on planet Earth, to us mortals it is rocket science. The journalist is a mere mortal too[^]. Tough to write about that which you don't understand.

regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

Shog9 wrote:

And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...

[codemunkeh]

It's not something I've given much phot-on recently. If Joke_Unclear Then Phot_on = "Thought On"

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Ninja (the Nerd)
Confused? You will be...

[codemunkeh]

Summoning energy? Soon, we're going to have the equivalent of a UAC to control energy elevations of various objects for every object in the universe. If Microsoft have anything to do with it it'll likely crash the universe.

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Ninja (the Nerd)
Confused? You will be...

[Mike Hankey]

Is nothing sacred? If that is true then the laws of Physics will need some updating. By the way if you get younger when traveling faster than light when does the next ship leave? Mike

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. "George Carlin"

[Rocky Moore]

Yeah, it is hard to imagine anyone believes that anymore.

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