All Programmers are not created equal
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All Programmers are not Created Equal[^]
(that is, 10x difference)
If that's the case then why aren't they getting paid 10x as much :confused: Have you ever had to work with one of those developers who had negative productivity? Most everything they wrote had to be redone and while they wrote it they required the assistance of other people thus taking up their time as well.
Todd Smith
Todd Smith wrote:
one of those developers who had negative productivity
Yes, I did. The guy actually created negative progress wherever he worked. His programming was so bad (crowd: "how bad was it?"), you didn't want to read it. You certainly didn't want to talk to him about it, because he could endlessly justify the ineptly Byzantine way he did things. Here's an example:
#define void int
That was to fix "a bug in the compiler" :wtf:.
Software Zen:
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Todd Smith wrote:
one of those developers who had negative productivity
Yes, I did. The guy actually created negative progress wherever he worked. His programming was so bad (crowd: "how bad was it?"), you didn't want to read it. You certainly didn't want to talk to him about it, because he could endlessly justify the ineptly Byzantine way he did things. Here's an example:
#define void int
That was to fix "a bug in the compiler" :wtf:.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
His programming was so bad (crowd: "how bad was it?")
:laugh:
Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
That was to fix "a bug in the compiler"
Did your company shortly thereafter fix the bug of him being employed?
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
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Interesting blog post. I'm curious if you posted it to see who is pompous enough to make a congratulatory self-reference. ;)
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
I know I'm a better programmer than a lot of the people I've worked with, at least at certain things. I'm not quite bastard enough to throw it in their faces, though. Except when it comes to GUI code. These guys suck, which they freely admit.
Software Zen:
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Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
His programming was so bad (crowd: "how bad was it?")
:laugh:
Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
That was to fix "a bug in the compiler"
Did your company shortly thereafter fix the bug of him being employed?
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
It took them a couple of years after I met him (and a couple more projects that nearly floundered because of him) before he was convinced to seek his fortune elsewhere.
Software Zen:
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I know I'm a better programmer than a lot of the people I've worked with, at least at certain things. I'm not quite bastard enough to throw it in their faces, though. Except when it comes to GUI code. These guys suck, which they freely admit.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
I'm not quite bastard enough to throw it in their faces, though.
Exactly. I have no problems with people knowing that they are better at X than someone else. What makes me sick is when people sing the "Splendors of Me." Ugh. Even if it's true that the person is the best in the West, my opinion of them always drops a notch.
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
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It took them a couple of years after I met him (and a couple more projects that nearly floundered because of him) before he was convinced to seek his fortune elsewhere.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
before he was convinced to seek his fortune elsewhere
Perhaps he joined Microsoft to help them fix the void/int bug! :-D
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
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Todd Smith wrote:
one of those developers who had negative productivity
Yes, I did. The guy actually created negative progress wherever he worked. His programming was so bad (crowd: "how bad was it?"), you didn't want to read it. You certainly didn't want to talk to him about it, because he could endlessly justify the ineptly Byzantine way he did things. Here's an example:
#define void int
That was to fix "a bug in the compiler" :wtf:.
Software Zen:
delete this;My favorite for C++ was:
#define private public
Todd Smith
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My favorite for C++ was:
#define private public
Todd Smith
Todd Smith wrote:
#define private public
That's just plain Evil. :suss:
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
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My favorite for C++ was:
#define private public
Todd Smith
Todd Smith wrote:
#define private public
I saw it in one of Herb Sutter's stories :) Have you actually seen it in real life?
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It took them a couple of years after I met him (and a couple more projects that nearly floundered because of him) before he was convinced to seek his fortune elsewhere.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
he was convinced to seek his fortune elsewhere
Does that mean he was promoted to management? :~
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Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
before he was convinced to seek his fortune elsewhere
Perhaps he joined Microsoft to help them fix the void/int bug! :-D
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
Nope. (snicker, snicker) He was hired by one of our competitors.
Software Zen:
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My favorite for C++ was:
#define private public
Todd Smith
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Nope. (snicker, snicker) He was hired by one of our competitors.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
He was hired by one of our competitors.
I assume you mean "ex-competitors." :)
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
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All Programmers are not Created Equal[^]
(that is, 10x difference)
If that's the case then why aren't they getting paid 10x as much :confused: Have you ever had to work with one of those developers who had negative productivity? Most everything they wrote had to be redone and while they wrote it they required the assistance of other people thus taking up their time as well.
Todd Smith
"If you were marooned on a island with the natives that are cannibals, and you had to program your way off the island, who would you want to be there to help you?" No one, because we would just argue about the best way to code ourselves off the island. :doh: Love programming, hate programmers. :)
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My favorite for C++ was:
#define private public
Todd Smith
When we made the switch from pascal to C++, my boss wanted me to do this:
#define begin {
#define end }"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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All Programmers are not Created Equal[^]
(that is, 10x difference)
If that's the case then why aren't they getting paid 10x as much :confused: Have you ever had to work with one of those developers who had negative productivity? Most everything they wrote had to be redone and while they wrote it they required the assistance of other people thus taking up their time as well.
Todd Smith
Todd Smith wrote:
Have you ever had to work with one of those developers who had negative productivity? Most everything they wrote had to be redone and while they wrote it they required the assistance of other people thus taking up their time as well.
That's a two way street. I've worked with idiot developers where I've had to redo everything. Conversely, I've ended up in situations where my work has been redone because it was too complicated for the inhouse developers to understand and maintain. Different symptoms, same disease--bad management, no budget for design and documentation, etc. Marc
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I know I'm a better programmer than a lot of the people I've worked with, at least at certain things. I'm not quite bastard enough to throw it in their faces, though. Except when it comes to GUI code. These guys suck, which they freely admit.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary R. Wheeler wrote:
I know I'm a better programmer than a lot of the people I've worked with
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All Programmers are not Created Equal[^]
(that is, 10x difference)
If that's the case then why aren't they getting paid 10x as much :confused: Have you ever had to work with one of those developers who had negative productivity? Most everything they wrote had to be redone and while they wrote it they required the assistance of other people thus taking up their time as well.
Todd Smith
Todd Smith wrote:
developers who had negative productivity
hahahahahahaha Yes :mad:
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All Programmers are not Created Equal[^]
(that is, 10x difference)
If that's the case then why aren't they getting paid 10x as much :confused: Have you ever had to work with one of those developers who had negative productivity? Most everything they wrote had to be redone and while they wrote it they required the assistance of other people thus taking up their time as well.
Todd Smith
A good programmer, on a good day, is ten times more productive than an average one. It's the managers job to make sure the programmer gas as many good days as possible.
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"If you were marooned on a island with the natives that are cannibals, and you had to program your way off the island, who would you want to be there to help you?" No one, because we would just argue about the best way to code ourselves off the island. :doh: Love programming, hate programmers. :)
I'd want the dumbest idiot I could find. The native could eat him first, giving me more time to code my escape.
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