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  • M Mark Salsbery

    BuckBrown wrote:

    but it started as someone elses code and now I'm just confused as to why this was supposed to help

    Fun fun! :)

    Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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    Luc Pattyn
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    Hi Mark, It seems I have been providing the fun here, I suggested Buck to look into my Sokoban article for printing, but then that's in C# and does not know about circular reference problems... :)

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      Hi Mark, It seems I have been providing the fun here, I suggested Buck to look into my Sokoban article for printing, but then that's in C# and does not know about circular reference problems... :)

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      George L Jackson
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      It gets worse when you start using Generics in C++/CLI in this situation! :((

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        It gets worse when you start using Generics in C++/CLI in this situation! :((

        "We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give." --Winston Churchill

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        Hi George, thanks for the warning. I haven't used generics much yet, no problems so far... :)

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          Hi George, thanks for the warning. I haven't used generics much yet, no problems so far... :)

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          George L Jackson
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          I guess you know how to keep yourself away from big issues; however, I don't. In certain situations, even with formal coding techniques, the compiler will still view your class (with a base clase of Foo) as a basic ref class with just a base class of Object. The only way I was able to get the code to compile was to create an IFoo generic interface and made Foo a Template class. Geo

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            I guess you know how to keep yourself away from big issues; however, I don't. In certain situations, even with formal coding techniques, the compiler will still view your class (with a base clase of Foo) as a basic ref class with just a base class of Object. The only way I was able to get the code to compile was to create an IFoo generic interface and made Foo a Template class. Geo

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            iddqd515
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            That's interesting. There's a bug where the C++/CLI compiler won't recognize that a managed array implements System::Array. The result is you can't pass a managed array to a function that takes an argument as IEnumerable^ or something similar. What you're saying makes it sound like this bug might just be a more specific case of a general problem the C++/CLI compiler has with generics. Unless I'm misunderstanding you.

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              That's interesting. There's a bug where the C++/CLI compiler won't recognize that a managed array implements System::Array. The result is you can't pass a managed array to a function that takes an argument as IEnumerable^ or something similar. What you're saying makes it sound like this bug might just be a more specific case of a general problem the C++/CLI compiler has with generics. Unless I'm misunderstanding you.

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              George L Jackson
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              iddqd515 wrote:

              There's a bug where the C++/CLI compiler won't recognize that a managed array implements System::Array. The result is you can't pass a managed array to a function that takes an argument as IEnumerable^ or something similar. What you're saying makes it sound like this bug might just be a more specific case of a general problem the C++/CLI compiler has with generics.

              I don't know if what I said applies to that. Nevertheless, translating C# code to C++/CLI may require some extensive hoop jumping. On the other hand, with the help of templates and other C++ idiosyncrasies, you can write code not possible in C#. Since I don't currently have time to write articles, I have been posting in my blog on Code Project some C++/CLI code and brief comments. I will be adding some code on this as soon as my wife allows me to. Any, any comments good, bad or indifferent are welcomed. -- modified at 10:57 Tuesday 21st August, 2007

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              • G George L Jackson

                iddqd515 wrote:

                There's a bug where the C++/CLI compiler won't recognize that a managed array implements System::Array. The result is you can't pass a managed array to a function that takes an argument as IEnumerable^ or something similar. What you're saying makes it sound like this bug might just be a more specific case of a general problem the C++/CLI compiler has with generics.

                I don't know if what I said applies to that. Nevertheless, translating C# code to C++/CLI may require some extensive hoop jumping. On the other hand, with the help of templates and other C++ idiosyncrasies, you can write code not possible in C#. Since I don't currently have time to write articles, I have been posting in my blog on Code Project some C++/CLI code and brief comments. I will be adding some code on this as soon as my wife allows me to. Any, any comments good, bad or indifferent are welcomed. -- modified at 10:57 Tuesday 21st August, 2007

                "We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give." --Winston Churchill

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                I forgot to read what I posted. I meant a function with an argument of the generic interface IEnumerable^ not IEnumerable^. That's what prompted me to connect your problem with that bug. I'm about to try fiddling with it.

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                • I iddqd515

                  I forgot to read what I posted. I meant a function with an argument of the generic interface IEnumerable^ not IEnumerable^. That's what prompted me to connect your problem with that bug. I'm about to try fiddling with it.

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                  Visit my blog. I did address something about that and it may or may not be helpful: http://www.codeproject.com/script/profile/whos_who.asp?id=207715[^]

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                    Visit my blog. I did address something about that and it may or may not be helpful: http://www.codeproject.com/script/profile/whos_who.asp?id=207715[^]

                    "We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give." --Winston Churchill

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                    iddqd515
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                    Interesting stuff, but I'm not sure its quite along the lines I'm looking for. Do you have a code example or solution that demonstrates the problem where the compiler doesn't recognize the proper base class of the derived class and just thinks its a System::Object?

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                    • I iddqd515

                      Interesting stuff, but I'm not sure its quite along the lines I'm looking for. Do you have a code example or solution that demonstrates the problem where the compiler doesn't recognize the proper base class of the derived class and just thinks its a System::Object?

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                      George L Jackson
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                      Yes I do. I will try to post it as soon as I get time! Also, the problem you refering to is something like the following where I have to use a safe_cast to get it to work:

                      using namespace System;
                      using namespace System::Collections::Generic;

                      generic <typename T>
                      void Foo(IEnumerable<T>^ col)
                      {
                      for each (T val in col)
                      {
                      Console::WriteLine(val);
                      }
                      }

                      int main(array<System::String ^> ^args)
                      {
                      array<int>^ arr = {10, 20, 30, 40, 50};

                      Foo(safe\_cast<IEnumerable<int>^>(arr));
                      
                      return 0;
                      

                      }

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                      • G George L Jackson

                        Yes I do. I will try to post it as soon as I get time! Also, the problem you refering to is something like the following where I have to use a safe_cast to get it to work:

                        using namespace System;
                        using namespace System::Collections::Generic;

                        generic <typename T>
                        void Foo(IEnumerable<T>^ col)
                        {
                        for each (T val in col)
                        {
                        Console::WriteLine(val);
                        }
                        }

                        int main(array<System::String ^> ^args)
                        {
                        array<int>^ arr = {10, 20, 30, 40, 50};

                        Foo(safe\_cast<IEnumerable<int>^>(arr));
                        
                        return 0;
                        

                        }

                        "We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give." --Winston Churchill

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                        iddqd515
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                        yeah that's exactly the problem. Alternatively you could call Foo(arr). The C# compiler properly recognizes that an array is System::Array so it doesn't require that cast. I don't believe there's any way to dynamically get the generic type argument with typeof or GetType(). It seems this would make it quite difficult to use generics dynamically based on user input or something similar.

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