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my department is being boxed and shipped to another city i have no future. X|
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why no future?
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my department is being boxed and shipped to another city i have no future. X|
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Just think outside the box
Michel Wassink
We must make user friendly software. Where are friendly users?
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Now, come on, I'm pretty sure that you'll find a job like the previous one, soon. Just take it easy. Although there are worse things than queuing burgers... like programming in VB6.
Hope is the negation of reality - Raistlin Majere
jgasm : First of all, my best wishes to find a new (and better job).I lived your experience three years ago, and I understand how you feel. But now I'm even happier, since I actually found a better job, hope you'll find too. Fernando A. Gomez F. : As far as VB6 goes, I almost agree with you, but... have you ever programmed in Cobol? No? You lucky man! After having used Cobol for more than two years X| , VB6 looked like a fresh breeze to me.
Marco Turrini
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jgasm : First of all, my best wishes to find a new (and better job).I lived your experience three years ago, and I understand how you feel. But now I'm even happier, since I actually found a better job, hope you'll find too. Fernando A. Gomez F. : As far as VB6 goes, I almost agree with you, but... have you ever programmed in Cobol? No? You lucky man! After having used Cobol for more than two years X| , VB6 looked like a fresh breeze to me.
Marco Turrini
yeah, nothing like forgetting a single period and getting 20 pages of error messages :doh: Steve
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yeah, nothing like forgetting a single period and getting 20 pages of error messages :doh: Steve
Forgetting was the easy part:laugh:: nothing like trying to locate that :mad:#@%£$&:mad: single period. And what about all those MOVE NEXT:zzz: surrounded by pages of verbose code:zzz: just to go from record x to record x+1? Not to forget that frightening OPEN OUTPUT: zillions of records flushed away in a breathe! And what about chasing T-Rex with a stick:cool:? And lighing a fire with two stones? Ah, the old, good times! I'm so happy they're gone forever... [to be continued, I fear...]
Marco Turrini
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my department is being boxed and shipped to another city i have no future. X|
----------------------------------------------------------- Completion Deadline: two days before the day after tomorrow
Well, sometimes you win, sometimes you learn! Take a look to this amazing book written by "Spencer Johnson", called "Who Moved My Cheese? An Amazing Way to Deal with Change in Your Work and in Your Life". I'm sure it'll give you the strength to deal with this new change in your life.
Mehdi Mousavi - Software Architect [ http://www.mehdi.biz/blog/ ]
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jgasm wrote:
i have no future.
See, you've been successfully brainwashed by the 21st century work ethic. If you don't work for the man, you have no future. fuck the man. Marc
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Forgetting was the easy part:laugh:: nothing like trying to locate that :mad:#@%£$&:mad: single period. And what about all those MOVE NEXT:zzz: surrounded by pages of verbose code:zzz: just to go from record x to record x+1? Not to forget that frightening OPEN OUTPUT: zillions of records flushed away in a breathe! And what about chasing T-Rex with a stick:cool:? And lighing a fire with two stones? Ah, the old, good times! I'm so happy they're gone forever... [to be continued, I fear...]
Marco Turrini
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Phil Harding wrote:
work for the man as a highly paid external consultant, and really shaft 'im
Yeah, isn't that what I said? ;) Marc
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my department is being boxed and shipped to another city i have no future. X|
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my department is being boxed and shipped to another city i have no future. X|
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I love changing jobs. There's nothing like starting all over again, with new people, new projects, new office, new everything. Look on the bright side! Starting over can be very refreshing. :)
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
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Sorry to hear it. Now you have new opportunity. You can find another j.o.b. (just over broke), become a contractor, or start your own business. Figure out what you want to do and get active.
My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long
J.O.B. (Just Over Broke) Scam alert! (Amway, Quixtar, Alticor - whatever they're calling it now). Tell Dex he can shove it where the sun don't shine. -CB
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Marco Turrini, in a commercial on TV they say something like: "One of the common humanity errors is to believe that old things will never come back!" :) As for you mate, pick the time to update yourself while searching for a new job. Best luck for you!
AlexCode wrote:
"One of the common humanity errors is to believe that old things will never come back!"
That's exactly the reason why I said "[to be continued, I fear...]":((. I hope a T-Rex [b]eats me before I'm ordered to look at a single line of Cobol code X| X| , which usually spans over several lines of text: how could I ever forget that code had to start at column 8 and end at column 72:mad: (perfect for printing code destroying Amazonic rain forest)?
Marco Turrini
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my department is being boxed and shipped to another city i have no future. X|
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I've felt like this a couple of times before, but it's an illusion. It feels hopeless like this and then you get a job offer. Use your off time to upgrade your skills; it will make you more effective and help you make a better impression at job interviews. Here in Michigan, we have the highest unemployment rate in the US. Ford laid off literally tens of thousands of employees here, flooding the job market while I was looking for a job. I read Effective STL and Effective C# in the months I was unemployed. They enriched my understanding of C++ and C# significantly. I'm glad I did it. Then after over six months, I got two job offers in one week, one of them 12 minutes from home! Hang in there! Keep sending your resume out and going to job interviews. At the very least, you'll get a better idea what skills employers in your area are looking for. I know it sounds like a cliche, but you often get a better job than you had before, that you couldn't have anticipated.
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AlexCode wrote:
"One of the common humanity errors is to believe that old things will never come back!"
That's exactly the reason why I said "[to be continued, I fear...]":((. I hope a T-Rex [b]eats me before I'm ordered to look at a single line of Cobol code X| X| , which usually spans over several lines of text: how could I ever forget that code had to start at column 8 and end at column 72:mad: (perfect for printing code destroying Amazonic rain forest)?
Marco Turrini
If it makes you feel any better, the wood used to make paper is farmed, not harvested from old growth.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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AlexCode wrote:
"One of the common humanity errors is to believe that old things will never come back!"
That's exactly the reason why I said "[to be continued, I fear...]":((. I hope a T-Rex [b]eats me before I'm ordered to look at a single line of Cobol code X| X| , which usually spans over several lines of text: how could I ever forget that code had to start at column 8 and end at column 72:mad: (perfect for printing code destroying Amazonic rain forest)?
Marco Turrini
This is a little off-topic (remember our unemployed pall?) but thankfully I never touched COBOL, but I have an idea that the COBOL language architect(s) was way too lame identifying code sections by the column they were written on... :wtf: I don't want to be misunderstood here, COBOL is a 1950's language (27 years before I was born) and created by a mid 40's woman, that I don't remember the name (Grace I think)... way ahead of anything done 'till then. Still way too lame for me pick it from the shelf on my own ;P and one of the things on the top to be vanished from the face (and underneath :doh:) of the earth X|
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If it makes you feel any better, the wood used to make paper is farmed, not harvested from old growth.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
dan neely wrote:
the wood used to make paper is farmed, not harvested from old growth
Ehm, I knew that, but this sounds much less dramatic:)
dan neely wrote:
You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed"
As a VB Coder I feel myself offended :mad:. I'm joking, of course, but I actually have many fellows who have never written a program without a keyboard (a few of them can't believe you can program without a MOUSE!): it's a matter of people's age, I think, not of people's programming language. Hey, just a moment: do you mean I'm sooooo old?:~ Damn, I'm too old to forget Cobol punched cards, too young to retire:((
Marco Turrini
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my department is being boxed and shipped to another city i have no future. X|
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For now on, try to get to customers also. A developer that can talk to customers (well) can handle himself better. Even in your situation you could always give the kick on the company and get to talk directly to their customers. It may not be ethical but what they've done to you isn't quite good either. There's a market with customers, usually wins who talks better and can deliver the minimum in less time. Mistaken are who thinks that best designed software win projects and customers sympathy, it should be but it isn't. Finding the middle is the key... and again... talk to customers, "sell" yourself.
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dan neely wrote:
the wood used to make paper is farmed, not harvested from old growth
Ehm, I knew that, but this sounds much less dramatic:)
dan neely wrote:
You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed"
As a VB Coder I feel myself offended :mad:. I'm joking, of course, but I actually have many fellows who have never written a program without a keyboard (a few of them can't believe you can program without a MOUSE!): it's a matter of people's age, I think, not of people's programming language. Hey, just a moment: do you mean I'm sooooo old?:~ Damn, I'm too old to forget Cobol punched cards, too young to retire:((
Marco Turrini
Marco Turrini wrote:
but I actually have many fellows who have never written a program without a keyboard (a few of them can't believe you can program without a MOUSE!): it's a matter of people's age, I think, not of people's programming language. Hey, just a moment: do you mean I'm sooooo old?
One of the final projects for my college electronics class was a breadboard 68000 series computer. Programming would've been done via toggling machine code into memory one byte at a time. It would've been an interesting project, but having to rip it apart after finals week so the next class could use all the hardware basically killed it for me. Display was via an oscilloscope so just buying the parts to keep it wasn't an option. I took that class back in 2002(?), so it's still possible to learn retro programming techniques today.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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This is a little off-topic (remember our unemployed pall?) but thankfully I never touched COBOL, but I have an idea that the COBOL language architect(s) was way too lame identifying code sections by the column they were written on... :wtf: I don't want to be misunderstood here, COBOL is a 1950's language (27 years before I was born) and created by a mid 40's woman, that I don't remember the name (Grace I think)... way ahead of anything done 'till then. Still way too lame for me pick it from the shelf on my own ;P and one of the things on the top to be vanished from the face (and underneath :doh:) of the earth X|
AlexCode wrote:
and one of the things on the top to be vanished from the face (and underneath ) of the earth
sadly crufty legacy code is essentially immortal due to the expenses needed to reverse engineer complex and undocumented systems.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer