which is the BEST love vs Friendship
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El Corazon wrote:
and I could have the unit replaced by ohhhh... December.
By which time you can just open the window! Gads, where do you work (I mean, company, home???) Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
Gads, where do you work
Company, of course. If it were home, I would grit my teeth, work some numbers, diet a little more and buy an AC on credit hoping to pay the money back from the reduced expenses. As long as it is a "direct" expense, getting something is relatively easy (in fact 2 minutes ago I was told that I needed any hardware, a few thousand or less -- 4-5k -- I could get what I want), but that is "project money" it is a direct expense to the cost of doing work. Direct expens for project A uses money from project A, easy accounting. Indirect expense, or "overhead" is things like furnature, heating, cooling, lighting, etc. Indirect expense is time consuming to authorize, difficult to manage, and has more red-tape in the company before you ever get outside the company. Fixing A/C is also a union issue. If I were to run out and buy my own and install it, I would get into a LOT of trouble. So you wait, scrounge a few fans (once I found the second things are much better -- one blowing in, one blowing out), and make yourself as comfortable as possible. Now if my computer overheats because of the heat in the room, I could request a part and fed ex it out here and have it done, myself, in 4-5 days. :) About 4 years ago I think it was, the AC broke in April, they didn't get it fixed until I was hospitalized in late July. I didn't drink enough water to make up for the temperature difference. When I returned from the ER two days later, they were already working on the A/C. If you almost die, it will get done, but if you aren't that far gone, you can wait 6-9 months.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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If he was working from home sticking box air conditioners in a few strategic locations would alleviate the worst of the overheating.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
dan neely wrote:
sticking box air conditioners in a few strategic locations would alleviate the worst of the overheating
I did that in Alamogordo when my apartment cooling went out. But I still only had to wait 48 hours.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Marc Clifton wrote:
Gads, where do you work
Company, of course. If it were home, I would grit my teeth, work some numbers, diet a little more and buy an AC on credit hoping to pay the money back from the reduced expenses. As long as it is a "direct" expense, getting something is relatively easy (in fact 2 minutes ago I was told that I needed any hardware, a few thousand or less -- 4-5k -- I could get what I want), but that is "project money" it is a direct expense to the cost of doing work. Direct expens for project A uses money from project A, easy accounting. Indirect expense, or "overhead" is things like furnature, heating, cooling, lighting, etc. Indirect expense is time consuming to authorize, difficult to manage, and has more red-tape in the company before you ever get outside the company. Fixing A/C is also a union issue. If I were to run out and buy my own and install it, I would get into a LOT of trouble. So you wait, scrounge a few fans (once I found the second things are much better -- one blowing in, one blowing out), and make yourself as comfortable as possible. Now if my computer overheats because of the heat in the room, I could request a part and fed ex it out here and have it done, myself, in 4-5 days. :) About 4 years ago I think it was, the AC broke in April, they didn't get it fixed until I was hospitalized in late July. I didn't drink enough water to make up for the temperature difference. When I returned from the ER two days later, they were already working on the A/C. If you almost die, it will get done, but if you aren't that far gone, you can wait 6-9 months.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
sounds like you need to fake heatstroke then :laugh::laugh::laugh:
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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Marc Clifton wrote:
Gads, where do you work
Company, of course. If it were home, I would grit my teeth, work some numbers, diet a little more and buy an AC on credit hoping to pay the money back from the reduced expenses. As long as it is a "direct" expense, getting something is relatively easy (in fact 2 minutes ago I was told that I needed any hardware, a few thousand or less -- 4-5k -- I could get what I want), but that is "project money" it is a direct expense to the cost of doing work. Direct expens for project A uses money from project A, easy accounting. Indirect expense, or "overhead" is things like furnature, heating, cooling, lighting, etc. Indirect expense is time consuming to authorize, difficult to manage, and has more red-tape in the company before you ever get outside the company. Fixing A/C is also a union issue. If I were to run out and buy my own and install it, I would get into a LOT of trouble. So you wait, scrounge a few fans (once I found the second things are much better -- one blowing in, one blowing out), and make yourself as comfortable as possible. Now if my computer overheats because of the heat in the room, I could request a part and fed ex it out here and have it done, myself, in 4-5 days. :) About 4 years ago I think it was, the AC broke in April, they didn't get it fixed until I was hospitalized in late July. I didn't drink enough water to make up for the temperature difference. When I returned from the ER two days later, they were already working on the A/C. If you almost die, it will get done, but if you aren't that far gone, you can wait 6-9 months.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
I'm borderline surprised you're able to just bring fans in and plug them into the wall without them going through a bureaucratic safety and efficiency approval process that takes as long as fixing the AC.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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Marc Clifton wrote:
Gads, where do you work
Company, of course. If it were home, I would grit my teeth, work some numbers, diet a little more and buy an AC on credit hoping to pay the money back from the reduced expenses. As long as it is a "direct" expense, getting something is relatively easy (in fact 2 minutes ago I was told that I needed any hardware, a few thousand or less -- 4-5k -- I could get what I want), but that is "project money" it is a direct expense to the cost of doing work. Direct expens for project A uses money from project A, easy accounting. Indirect expense, or "overhead" is things like furnature, heating, cooling, lighting, etc. Indirect expense is time consuming to authorize, difficult to manage, and has more red-tape in the company before you ever get outside the company. Fixing A/C is also a union issue. If I were to run out and buy my own and install it, I would get into a LOT of trouble. So you wait, scrounge a few fans (once I found the second things are much better -- one blowing in, one blowing out), and make yourself as comfortable as possible. Now if my computer overheats because of the heat in the room, I could request a part and fed ex it out here and have it done, myself, in 4-5 days. :) About 4 years ago I think it was, the AC broke in April, they didn't get it fixed until I was hospitalized in late July. I didn't drink enough water to make up for the temperature difference. When I returned from the ER two days later, they were already working on the A/C. If you almost die, it will get done, but if you aren't that far gone, you can wait 6-9 months.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
El Corazon wrote:
Fixing A/C is also a union issue.
I despise unions. Maybe in the 1920's they were a good thing, helping to improve labor conditions, health insurance, things like that, but nowadays they are a leech on the productivity of this country.
El Corazon wrote:
When I returned from the ER two days later, they were already working on the A/C. If you almost die, it will get done, but if you aren't that far gone, you can wait 6-9 months.
That's a sad thing. Same for traffic lights and speed limits though. I was involved in a traffic accident that broke my leg (I was biking and clearly had the right of way and truly did NOT see the guy coming). They changed the light to a three way light. The road out here was 55 until a lovely young girl died on it the year we moved here. Now it's 40, and the area she got killed in is now 30 because of the curves. Marc
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El Corazon wrote:
Fixing A/C is also a union issue.
I despise unions. Maybe in the 1920's they were a good thing, helping to improve labor conditions, health insurance, things like that, but nowadays they are a leech on the productivity of this country.
El Corazon wrote:
When I returned from the ER two days later, they were already working on the A/C. If you almost die, it will get done, but if you aren't that far gone, you can wait 6-9 months.
That's a sad thing. Same for traffic lights and speed limits though. I was involved in a traffic accident that broke my leg (I was biking and clearly had the right of way and truly did NOT see the guy coming). They changed the light to a three way light. The road out here was 55 until a lovely young girl died on it the year we moved here. Now it's 40, and the area she got killed in is now 30 because of the curves. Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
I despise unions. Maybe in the 1920's they were a good thing, helping to improve labor conditions, health insurance, things like that, but nowadays they are a leech on the productivity of this country.
agree overall. It took at least 3 unions and 5 trips to move a fridge where my mom works. Electricians union to un/plug the fridge on each end. metal workers union to remove/replace the shelves on each end. people who move heavy stuff union to physically haul it across the room. :wtf::omg::wtf: Edit: A more recent and local to where I live incident. About a week ago a union announced plans to sue the company whose workers they represent over plans to close the plant. The company and union had been fighting for at least a year over costs, the Johnstown facility was the companies most expensive, and fed up with union stonewalling Freightcar America decided to cut its losses and shut the operation down.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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Marc Clifton wrote:
I despise unions. Maybe in the 1920's they were a good thing, helping to improve labor conditions, health insurance, things like that, but nowadays they are a leech on the productivity of this country.
agree overall. It took at least 3 unions and 5 trips to move a fridge where my mom works. Electricians union to un/plug the fridge on each end. metal workers union to remove/replace the shelves on each end. people who move heavy stuff union to physically haul it across the room. :wtf::omg::wtf: Edit: A more recent and local to where I live incident. About a week ago a union announced plans to sue the company whose workers they represent over plans to close the plant. The company and union had been fighting for at least a year over costs, the Johnstown facility was the companies most expensive, and fed up with union stonewalling Freightcar America decided to cut its losses and shut the operation down.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
dan neely wrote:
It took at least 3 unions and 5 trips to move a fridge where my mom works.
What kind of fridge was that? I mean, my idea is you unplug the 120VAC, pull out the shelves, and get a dolly and the buff neighbor to haul it out!
dan neely wrote:
and fed up with union stonewalling Freightcar America decided to cut its losses and shut the operation down.
When a union puts a company out of business or forces a plant to shut down(and affects the very people working at the company), then there's something truly wrong. Marc
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dan neely wrote:
It took at least 3 unions and 5 trips to move a fridge where my mom works.
What kind of fridge was that? I mean, my idea is you unplug the 120VAC, pull out the shelves, and get a dolly and the buff neighbor to haul it out!
dan neely wrote:
and fed up with union stonewalling Freightcar America decided to cut its losses and shut the operation down.
When a union puts a company out of business or forces a plant to shut down(and affects the very people working at the company), then there's something truly wrong. Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
What kind of fridge was that? I mean, my idea is you unplug the 120VAC, pull out the shelves, and get a dolly and the buff neighbor to haul it out!
One trapped in the fever swamps of union dementiaville. It's used to store samples for testing in a hospital lab, I don't know if that imposes any extra requirements (besides not being cheap junk) or not.
Marc Clifton wrote:
When a union puts a company out of business or forces a plant to shut down(and affects the very people working at the company), then there's something truly wrong.
FCA itself is fine, they're just transferring all the work that would've been sent here to other locations. For some months prior they'd been publicly stating what they'd do unless they received concessions of some sort from the local union (no clue if the other locations are unionized or not) but they kept voting to cut their own throat and FCA finally obliged them. :doh:
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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I'm borderline surprised you're able to just bring fans in and plug them into the wall without them going through a bureaucratic safety and efficiency approval process that takes as long as fixing the AC.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
dan neely wrote:
I'm borderline surprised you're able to just bring fans in and plug them into the wall without them going through a bureaucratic safety and efficiency approval process that takes as long as fixing the AC.
Oh, I am sure if we actually tried to "have them" as "fans" we could not, all safety issues aside, if the AC is an issue there is "someone" to fix it. But we have high speed cameras. The hard part about testing high speed cameras is having a ready target to look at. Are you going to drive through a 15mph zone at 150mph just to test your camera? not likely. Fans are useful things. To us, they are "high speed optical timing calibration units." ;) In other words you put it in front of a camera, aim at the blades and with a properly tuned camera you should be able to film it as if it were not moving even on high. :) Since our cameras are just now leaving for something, the timing calibraton units are free to be multi-purposed. I am just "holding" them until the cameras come back. ;P
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Marc Clifton wrote:
What kind of fridge was that? I mean, my idea is you unplug the 120VAC, pull out the shelves, and get a dolly and the buff neighbor to haul it out!
One trapped in the fever swamps of union dementiaville. It's used to store samples for testing in a hospital lab, I don't know if that imposes any extra requirements (besides not being cheap junk) or not.
Marc Clifton wrote:
When a union puts a company out of business or forces a plant to shut down(and affects the very people working at the company), then there's something truly wrong.
FCA itself is fine, they're just transferring all the work that would've been sent here to other locations. For some months prior they'd been publicly stating what they'd do unless they received concessions of some sort from the local union (no clue if the other locations are unionized or not) but they kept voting to cut their own throat and FCA finally obliged them. :doh:
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
dan neely wrote:
One trapped in the fever swamps of union dementiaville. It's used to store samples for testing in a hospital lab, I don't know if that imposes any extra requirements (besides not being cheap junk) or not.
Depending on its age, it does. My grandfather worked well past retirement age because he was the only person qualified (without a union too) to handle several of those fridges and medical cooling systems of various types, including hospital A/Cs. He retired when the last unit he was qualified to service was retired. I would hope they are better now, but given the desire to keep medical systems completely independant of mainstream equivalents to have a dedicated market, I would expect it is simply worse. :)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)