Chicken Pox
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Marc Clifton wrote:
[step on soapbox] Good heavens. "Agony" is definitely not the right word. And frankly, parents nowadays are all too whimpy about their kids suffering some pain. Geez. Learning about pain, that you live through it, and so forth is an important part of growing up. Stop pampering. Your kid won't have a clue how to deal with a stubbed toe otherwise. (And yes, I have seen kids scream bloody murder when they stub their toe because they have had no other experiences with pain). Geez. Don't make your a kid spineless. Pain is a part of life. [/step off soapbox]
That's not soapbox, that's just common sense. Sadly we are witnessing the birth of one of the most useless generations ever to live on planet earth.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
I know, we can call them Gen Don't Know. :)
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar]
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Justin Perez wrote:
I can see why parents do that, but I think it's very, uhmm... cruel.
It's really not that bad. The kids I know enjoy the time off from school. And it's a lot less cruel than discovering that the chicken pox vaccination doesn't properly protect you as an adult.
Justin Perez wrote:
I would just feel so bad to see my child in agony
[step on soapbox] Good heavens. "Agony" is definitely not the right word. And frankly, parents nowadays are all too whimpy about their kids suffering some pain. Geez. Learning about pain, that you live through it, and so forth is an important part of growing up. Stop pampering. Your kid won't have a clue how to deal with a stubbed toe otherwise. (And yes, I have seen kids scream bloody murder when they stub their toe because they have had no other experiences with pain). Geez. Don't make your a kid spineless. Pain is a part of life. [/step off soapbox] [potential quackery] For example: What we do know as a result of vaccination for measles, another previously common childhood infection--also thought to be much less serious if contracted between the ages of 3-9, is that for many, the vaccine does not confer lifelong immunity, it merely POSTPONES one's susceptibility. Prior to widespread measles vaccination, epidemics in college-aged people were unheard of -- today (or a least prior to requiring re-immunization of college freshman) college students have become more common victims, and face a greater potential for complications then children. -- Source[^] (dubious as it may be) [/potential quackery] The point is, make an informed decision rather than what the media, your friends, me, or your doctor tells you. Hmmm. I guess an informed decision is pretty much impossible nowadays! Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
The point is, make an informed decision rather than what the media, your friends, me, or your doctor tells you.
Isn't an informed decision just balancing these information sources?
Marc Clifton wrote:
I guess an informed decision is pretty much impossible nowadays!
Because you are the bottleneck, Marc! :D Up to a certain amount, we need to stop seeing sickness as a "broken machine, needs to be fixed", and more as "down for maintenance". This doesn't work for terminal cancer, but certainly for the common cold.
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Marc Clifton wrote:
[step on soapbox] Good heavens. "Agony" is definitely not the right word. And frankly, parents nowadays are all too whimpy about their kids suffering some pain. Geez. Learning about pain, that you live through it, and so forth is an important part of growing up. Stop pampering. Your kid won't have a clue how to deal with a stubbed toe otherwise. (And yes, I have seen kids scream bloody murder when they stub their toe because they have had no other experiences with pain). Geez. Don't make your a kid spineless. Pain is a part of life. [/step off soapbox]
That's not soapbox, that's just common sense. Sadly we are witnessing the birth of one of the most useless generations ever to live on planet earth.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
<soapbox> Welcome to the long-lasting results of
Political Correctnessgone to far, or just gone plain wrong. We would all be better off learning (and thus teaching) that it is OK to be offended, and be uncomfortable and/or in pain every now and then - thus are some of the most memorable moments of the Human Condition. Deal with 'em. Besides, many of us as kids learned what and what not to do by the results of pain from a particular scenario. </soapbox> Peace!-=- James
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Last night my Wife and I were talked about chicken pox. We started talking about when we each got them, I was 7 and she was 10. Most people we know got them when they were younger(Well, the people we have known for a long time). That usually isn't a question you ask a new friend, unless you are weird. So, we are curious, how old were most people when they got them? Has anyone never had them, or were you older when you got them? Does anyone know anyone that got them after the age of, say, 18?
I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")
Nope, never had it. I was even at a holiday camp when I was a child where everyone came down with it. Except me. Or my sister. Oh well, lucky in one thing, anyway.
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If I remember right I had it only once when I was 5. It wasn't bad and cleared up very quickly which is odd considering it took my immune system 3 goes to get a handle on mumps and 4 for German measles. Each time being worse than the last. Most of these things are worse the older you are when you get them. I'm not sure if it's a body mass thing, an immune response side effect thing or an immune recognition speed thing. Is Doctor House in the house?
Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.
Matthew Faithfull wrote:
Most of these things are worse the older you are when you get them. I'm not sure if it's a body mass thing, an immune response side effect thing or an immune recognition speed thing. Is Doctor House in the house?
Not sure of the exact cause, but the immune response in strongest in babies and weakens as you age. The reason little kids are always getting sick isn't a deficiency in the immune system itself, but that they're encountering every disease for the first time and don't have any canned antibodies in place to slow it while they mobilize.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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Marc Clifton wrote:
The point is, make an informed decision rather than what the media, your friends, me, or your doctor tells you.
Isn't an informed decision just balancing these information sources?
Marc Clifton wrote:
I guess an informed decision is pretty much impossible nowadays!
Because you are the bottleneck, Marc! :D Up to a certain amount, we need to stop seeing sickness as a "broken machine, needs to be fixed", and more as "down for maintenance". This doesn't work for terminal cancer, but certainly for the common cold.
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
My first real C# project | Linkify!|FoldWithUs! | sighistpeterchen wrote:
we need to stop seeing sickness as a "broken machine, needs to be fixed", and more as "down for maintenance".
Exactly! Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote:
[step on soapbox] Good heavens. "Agony" is definitely not the right word. And frankly, parents nowadays are all too whimpy about their kids suffering some pain. Geez. Learning about pain, that you live through it, and so forth is an important part of growing up. Stop pampering. Your kid won't have a clue how to deal with a stubbed toe otherwise. (And yes, I have seen kids scream bloody murder when they stub their toe because they have had no other experiences with pain). Geez. Don't make your a kid spineless. Pain is a part of life. [/step off soapbox]
That's not soapbox, that's just common sense. Sadly we are witnessing the birth of one of the most useless generations ever to live on planet earth.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
John Cardinal wrote:
Sadly we are witnessing the birth of one of the most useless generations ever to live on planet earth.
Such is the price of technological advance without the corresponding social advances, I tend to think. Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote:
[step on soapbox] Good heavens. "Agony" is definitely not the right word. And frankly, parents nowadays are all too whimpy about their kids suffering some pain. Geez. Learning about pain, that you live through it, and so forth is an important part of growing up. Stop pampering. Your kid won't have a clue how to deal with a stubbed toe otherwise. (And yes, I have seen kids scream bloody murder when they stub their toe because they have had no other experiences with pain). Geez. Don't make your a kid spineless. Pain is a part of life. [/step off soapbox]
That's not soapbox, that's just common sense. Sadly we are witnessing the birth of one of the most useless generations ever to live on planet earth.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
John Cardinal wrote:
useless generations ever
I was just yesterday reading about a book, where author mentioned that people are increasingly seeing children as useless but emotionally priceless. :doh: Ankita
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Last night my Wife and I were talked about chicken pox. We started talking about when we each got them, I was 7 and she was 10. Most people we know got them when they were younger(Well, the people we have known for a long time). That usually isn't a question you ask a new friend, unless you are weird. So, we are curious, how old were most people when they got them? Has anyone never had them, or were you older when you got them? Does anyone know anyone that got them after the age of, say, 18?
I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")
I got it when I was seven or eight. It wasn't a very bad case, but was apparently bad enough for my immune system to become immune. Chicken Pox and Shingles are pretty much the same thing - the overwhelming majority of the time, children exhibit Chicken Pox symptoms a few times, and adults exhibit recurring cases of Shingles for life. Chicken Pox, Shingles, etc... are all Herpes-simplex viruses, like cold-sores/fever-blisters and genital herpes. The virus, once in the body, never leaves, and is never "killed" (nor are other viruses IIRC). The body just gets really good at smacking the virus down to the point that no symptoms are ever visible. For example, the overwhelming majority of the population has the herpes-simplex virus that causes cold-sores, but only a small portion of them will ever actually develop cold-sores. They can still pass it on, though not as easily as a person who has a cold-sore. I'm in the unfortunate minority that develops cold-sores once in awhile, as is my dad. My mother and sisters do not get them. There's not a chance in the world that my mother and sisters haven't been exposed - but for some reason their bodies are able to contain the virus to the point that they don't exhibit any symptoms, and are very unlikely to pass it on. I've been getting them since early childhood, too, so it's not like I got to do anything fun to get it either! :) The medicines advertised to greatly contain and prevent most genital herpes outbreaks are prescribed to contain Shingles and cold-sore outbreaks as well. They do a great job at it too. My outbreaks were never bad enough or frequent enough to require medication, though. For myself, using UV-blocking lip gloss drastically cut down my outbreak frequency - I typically get only 1 or 2 a year now. As far as Chicken Pox, however, get your kids infected between 3 and 5 years of age if you can. A young child is a germ- and virus-smackdown machine, and it repairs itself ridiculously quickly. Of course, ask your pediatrician for specifics, and follow their guidelines. But don't try and shield your child from real life - you can't. Let them build their immunity during childhood, lest they be plagued in adulthood by diseases their bodies could have learned to deal with easily in childhood.
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Marc Clifton wrote:
[step on soapbox] Good heavens. "Agony" is definitely not the right word. And frankly, parents nowadays are all too whimpy about their kids suffering some pain. Geez. Learning about pain, that you live through it, and so forth is an important part of growing up. Stop pampering. Your kid won't have a clue how to deal with a stubbed toe otherwise. (And yes, I have seen kids scream bloody murder when they stub their toe because they have had no other experiences with pain). Geez. Don't make your a kid spineless. Pain is a part of life. [/step off soapbox]
That's not soapbox, that's just common sense. Sadly we are witnessing the birth of one of the most useless generations ever to live on planet earth.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
every generation says the same thing about the one coming after it. :rolleyes:
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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Last night my Wife and I were talked about chicken pox. We started talking about when we each got them, I was 7 and she was 10. Most people we know got them when they were younger(Well, the people we have known for a long time). That usually isn't a question you ask a new friend, unless you are weird. So, we are curious, how old were most people when they got them? Has anyone never had them, or were you older when you got them? Does anyone know anyone that got them after the age of, say, 18?
I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")
I had it when I was 10. I was a full week at home, and that's when I really got into programming. I remember trying to make a lottery game in GW-BASIC that I never finished (I had used QBasic before). Around that date I also started reading K&R C book.
Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix Chihuahua, Mexico
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every generation says the same thing about the one coming after it. :rolleyes:
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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Last night my Wife and I were talked about chicken pox. We started talking about when we each got them, I was 7 and she was 10. Most people we know got them when they were younger(Well, the people we have known for a long time). That usually isn't a question you ask a new friend, unless you are weird. So, we are curious, how old were most people when they got them? Has anyone never had them, or were you older when you got them? Does anyone know anyone that got them after the age of, say, 18?
I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")
I got them in the 5th or 6th grade which makes it 9 or 10 years old as I started first grade when I was 4.
John
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They do but this time there is real cause for concern.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
your parents and grandparents said the same thing about yours.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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Last night my Wife and I were talked about chicken pox. We started talking about when we each got them, I was 7 and she was 10. Most people we know got them when they were younger(Well, the people we have known for a long time). That usually isn't a question you ask a new friend, unless you are weird. So, we are curious, how old were most people when they got them? Has anyone never had them, or were you older when you got them? Does anyone know anyone that got them after the age of, say, 18?
I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")
Nope, never had them. Do not plan to either ;)
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your parents and grandparents said the same thing about yours.
-- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
We'll see I guess but I the coddling I see going on is so widespread and so harmful to the adult that those children are going to grow up to be some day that I can only make comparisons with children I knew growing up that were treated that way which was rare and without exception they've grown up to be some very fucked up adults.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
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Last night my Wife and I were talked about chicken pox. We started talking about when we each got them, I was 7 and she was 10. Most people we know got them when they were younger(Well, the people we have known for a long time). That usually isn't a question you ask a new friend, unless you are weird. So, we are curious, how old were most people when they got them? Has anyone never had them, or were you older when you got them? Does anyone know anyone that got them after the age of, say, 18?
I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")
Had it when I was 22, not much fun. I was out of action for nearly month at a time when I was meant to be finishing off the project element of my degree. This resulted in a month or so without any booze. First day back in circulation there was a promotional event - "Owd Rodger" (strong British beer) at some giveawy price. I remember saying to a friend, I've had quite a few of these and I can't feel the effect at all. A moment later it felt like someone hit me over the head with a shovel and inserted some fuzzy logic between my head and my legs. The rest is unpleasant history. Rich
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Last night my Wife and I were talked about chicken pox. We started talking about when we each got them, I was 7 and she was 10. Most people we know got them when they were younger(Well, the people we have known for a long time). That usually isn't a question you ask a new friend, unless you are weird. So, we are curious, how old were most people when they got them? Has anyone never had them, or were you older when you got them? Does anyone know anyone that got them after the age of, say, 18?
I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")
I had them as a kid. My Ex actually has several skin defects because of chicken pox and no treatment at all (the biggest one, though, is a scar from some vaccination). I also had measles as a child, but I only got mumps when I was 16. When I was 18, I had scarlet fever, and had to wear a longtime ECG monitor/alarm because my heart had skipped some beats when I was at the doctors. Luckily, the heart muscle infection healed well.
Cheers, Sebastian -- "If it was two men, the non-driver would have challenged the driver to simply crash through the gates. The macho image thing, you know." - Marc Clifton
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Last night my Wife and I were talked about chicken pox. We started talking about when we each got them, I was 7 and she was 10. Most people we know got them when they were younger(Well, the people we have known for a long time). That usually isn't a question you ask a new friend, unless you are weird. So, we are curious, how old were most people when they got them? Has anyone never had them, or were you older when you got them? Does anyone know anyone that got them after the age of, say, 18?
I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")
I've never had chicken pox, but was exposed to it......at work!!!! It was 1 week before my wedding and some idiot that sat 6 feet away from me came into work with chicken pox!!!! I immediately called HR, and told them that if I develop chicken pox, I was going to have a lawsuit against them for every single penny I would lose on my wedding/honeymoon if I developed them. Within 5 minutes, they had security escort him out of the building. But it was an overly stressful time because of the fear of developing chicken pox before the wedding.
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Last night my Wife and I were talked about chicken pox. We started talking about when we each got them, I was 7 and she was 10. Most people we know got them when they were younger(Well, the people we have known for a long time). That usually isn't a question you ask a new friend, unless you are weird. So, we are curious, how old were most people when they got them? Has anyone never had them, or were you older when you got them? Does anyone know anyone that got them after the age of, say, 18?
I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")
29 from a friends child. Was pretty miserable, still have some scars on my forehead.