New to C# Programming

[PIEBALDconsult]

If, by "with out a gui" you mean; without an IDE, I'd say, no, definitely use an IDE (Visual Studio perhaps). But starting out writing console applications with that IDE is a very good idea.

[ghle]

Naw, you gotta do the typical "Hello World" first, which would be GUI. Definitely use a visual IDE to develop your code. Gary

[humayunlalzad]

If you have enough time start with GUI then commandLine and then GUI forever.

[Christian Graus]

No, he plainly doesn't mean that. He means should he write console or GUI programs.

Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

[Christian Graus]

Write command line programs first. If you do, you'll be streets ahead of most other people learning today, who learn by playing with the forms designer, and have big holes in their knowledge as a result.

Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

[invalidsyntax1010]

Thanks for the answers I will continue to use SharpDevelop since vs2005 is to much dough ugh boring command line lol oh well I will search for some good tutorials... anyone like sharpdeveoplemt or vs2005 (rich folks lol)

[ChrisKo 0]

SharpDevelope used to be great, until MS release the Express versions of Visual Studio. I would recommend you download a copy of VS Express to learn on. http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/express/default.aspx[^]

[Luc Pattyn]

My advice is twofold: - download Visual Studio Express Edition, it is free and it works really well; - buy at least one up-to-date introductory book on the programming language of your choice, make sure the book targets Windows and if it relies on a specific IDE it better be Visual Studio; and then work your way through the book to make sure you fully understand the language; it will teach you the most important classes, and it will probably show you how to do console apps first, windows apps later. At first, don't try to figure it all out yourself, let the book be your guide ! It will be much much faster, and much more thorough at the same time. :)

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[George L Jackson]

Stick with learning just the language via the console. Learning with a GUI will distract you from learning the fundamentals. You need to crawl (console) before you walk (GUI).

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[Colin Angus Mackay]

humayunlalzad wrote:

start with GUI then commandLine and then GUI forever.

:confused: Why? And GUI forever is not valid. There are many types of program, not all require a GUI. (A windows service, for example)

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[invalidsyntax1010]

Thanks for all the input on command vs gui for noobs... also thanks for the express edition link much appreciated and if you have any wisdom regarding programming please share :) Thanks alot Mark Nooby programmer

[Thomas Stockwell]

If you were new to programming and starting with C++ I would suggest a non-GUI application. However C# is made for the GUI interface and makes learning GUI programming very easy. Still, the approach for commandline programs in C# and C++ is quite a bit different.

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[George L Jackson]

Yes, you are right. In C++ and C++/CLI, you can write a simple program inside of the main function. However, C# requires you write your simple program inside of a class inside of a static method. Thus, a new programmer has to contend with OOP at the start before learning about the fundamentals such as variable scope and iteration. When you add the GUI in the picture, you are dropping a lot of learning overhead that overwhelms many new programmers. Thus, they may miss learning what they really need to be solid programmers. In a nutshell, keep it simple and build on a solid base. Fancy GUI programming can be learned later with the fundamentals under their belts.

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