Oracle and the contract crisis
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Hi It is a great day for all Microsoftonians. Oracle and the contract crisis: http://news.com.com/2100-1017-935394.html Spread the joy :) It is good to hear someone else stepped into pile of shit with the government and this time it isn't MS. There has been numerous complains about Microsoft's licensing schema, well talk about being overcharged $41 million dollars - courtesy of Oracle. Quotes... "At another point, Mehta asks whether Oracle would "consider making a charitable contribution [to] Stanford" and earmark it to support the son of a state senator who was a student at the university." "Herb Wesson--While we have already made a contribution to Herb, I believe as speaker he will be very helpful to Oracle. I am planning a dinner meeting with Herb...on the 22nd of January. I'd like to give him a check for $10K at the dinner." "Marco Firebaugh--We should deliver the 10K check that you originally requested. I would like to do this at the dinner with Herb." Mike M WinInsider.com
Oracle sucks, their product sucks ( at least the front end is so bad that they should all be shot for it ), and if I see Larry Ellison in the gleam of my headlights one rainy night, I won't be slowing down. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
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Christian Graus wrote: at least the front end is so bad that they should all be shot for it Same reason Java was(is by some) frowned upon when it first came out. So much for not judging a book by its cover. But I agree in Oracle's case, they just goofed up the UI(this is esp. true, when working on lower end computers)
A.A. wrote: they just goofed up the UI( So this is a Universal Opinion. How can these guys not know that they screwed up bug time
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Oracle sucks, their product sucks ( at least the front end is so bad that they should all be shot for it ), and if I see Larry Ellison in the gleam of my headlights one rainy night, I won't be slowing down. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
Christian Graus wrote: at least the front end is so bad that they should all be shot for it Same reason Java was(is by some) frowned upon when it first came out. So much for not judging a book by its cover. But I agree in Oracle's case, they just goofed up the UI(this is esp. true, when working on lower end computers)
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Christian Graus wrote: at least the front end is so bad that they should all be shot for it Same reason Java was(is by some) frowned upon when it first came out. So much for not judging a book by its cover. But I agree in Oracle's case, they just goofed up the UI(this is esp. true, when working on lower end computers)
A.A. wrote: But I agree in Oracle's case, they just goofed up the UI(this is esp. true, when working on lower end computers) I have a reasonable sort of PC, the thing is, I would have to work HARD to make a UI this bad in C++. For example, the table view has a scrollbar. If I scroll it too far, the display is corrupted, and cannot be restored, I need to close and reopen the view. That is not just bad design, it is abortional. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
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A.A. wrote: But I agree in Oracle's case, they just goofed up the UI(this is esp. true, when working on lower end computers) I have a reasonable sort of PC, the thing is, I would have to work HARD to make a UI this bad in C++. For example, the table view has a scrollbar. If I scroll it too far, the display is corrupted, and cannot be restored, I need to close and reopen the view. That is not just bad design, it is abortional. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
Christian Graus wrote: That is not just bad design, it is abortional. That is the best description of Oracle UI I have heard so far. Almost everything has a refresh problem esp. their java help window that pops up when you view the documentation in a browser. The things which kills me are their error messages they could have done far better job atleast for that. Christian Graus wrote: Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. I have to disagree on that one:)
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Oracle sucks, their product sucks ( at least the front end is so bad that they should all be shot for it ), and if I see Larry Ellison in the gleam of my headlights one rainy night, I won't be slowing down. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
I like your turn of phrase: "gleam of headlights", etc. I'll have to remember that for the next review with our subcontractor... :-D Gary R. Wheeler
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Christian Graus wrote: That is not just bad design, it is abortional. That is the best description of Oracle UI I have heard so far. Almost everything has a refresh problem esp. their java help window that pops up when you view the documentation in a browser. The things which kills me are their error messages they could have done far better job atleast for that. Christian Graus wrote: Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. I have to disagree on that one:)
Rama Krishna wrote: The things which kills me are their error messages they could have done far better job atleast for that. I got a progress dialog when I asked for help, and a message to say that if I pressed cancel, it would close the dialog, but not end the process. I typed in two search words, and 10 minutes later killed the process because it was still searching, and THAT cancel button did nothing. Rama Krishna wrote: I have to disagree on that one I'm just quoting someone else, you'll have to disagree with him :-) Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
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:omg: :wtf: :omg: :wtf: :laugh: :wtf: :omg: :wtf: :omg: I call it emoticon art I think I recently read that Larry Ellison hired an investigator to investigate Bill Gate's wrong doings (he won the big brother award I think) maybe Bill should be doing the same :) Mike.NET So how do you fit into the .NET puzzle? ;P -:suss:Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179
Could you Would you with a goat? - Dr Suess****Matt Newman wrote: I call it emoticon art :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :laugh: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: Wish there was some music accompanying it
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Hi It is a great day for all Microsoftonians. Oracle and the contract crisis: http://news.com.com/2100-1017-935394.html Spread the joy :) It is good to hear someone else stepped into pile of shit with the government and this time it isn't MS. There has been numerous complains about Microsoft's licensing schema, well talk about being overcharged $41 million dollars - courtesy of Oracle. Quotes... "At another point, Mehta asks whether Oracle would "consider making a charitable contribution [to] Stanford" and earmark it to support the son of a state senator who was a student at the university." "Herb Wesson--While we have already made a contribution to Herb, I believe as speaker he will be very helpful to Oracle. I am planning a dinner meeting with Herb...on the 22nd of January. I'd like to give him a check for $10K at the dinner." "Marco Firebaugh--We should deliver the 10K check that you originally requested. I would like to do this at the dinner with Herb." Mike M WinInsider.com
:omg: :wtf: :omg: :wtf: :laugh: :wtf: :omg: :wtf: :omg: I call it emoticon art I think I recently read that Larry Ellison hired an investigator to investigate Bill Gate's wrong doings (he won the big brother award I think) maybe Bill should be doing the same :) Mike.NET So how do you fit into the .NET puzzle? ;P -:suss:Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179
Could you Would you with a goat? - Dr Suess -
****Matt Newman wrote: I call it emoticon art :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :laugh: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: Wish there was some music accompanying it
Rama Krishna wrote: Wish there was some music accompanying it There is, You just have to turn up your speakers really really loud. Next make sure the volume on your microphone is cranked way up and put the mic next to the speaker :) -:suss:Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179
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There is, You just have to turn up your speakers really really loud. Next make sure the volume on your microphone is cranked way up and put the mic next to the speaker If at this point your computer just squeals at you. It is a sign that you aren't pure. That or it is channeling farm animals. Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?
Tim Smith wrote: If at this point your computer just squeals at you. It is a sign that you aren't pure. That or it is channeling farm animals. LOL I painfully remeber compaqs stupid decision to integrate the mic and speakers into the monitor. X| -:suss:Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179
Could you Would you with a goat? - Dr Suess -
Rama Krishna wrote: Wish there was some music accompanying it There is, You just have to turn up your speakers really really loud. Next make sure the volume on your microphone is cranked way up and put the mic next to the speaker :) -:suss:Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179
Could you Would you with a goat? - Dr SuessThere is, You just have to turn up your speakers really really loud. Next make sure the volume on your microphone is cranked way up and put the mic next to the speaker If at this point your computer just squeals at you. It is a sign that you aren't pure. That or it is channeling farm animals. Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?
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****Matt Newman wrote: maybe Bill should be doing the same Who do you think started all the noise?;)
Eddie Velasquez: A Squeezed Devil
Checkout General Guidelines for C# Class ImplementationI thought it showed up when they found out they overpaid $41 Million? -:suss:Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179
Could you Would you with a goat? - Dr Suess -
:omg: :wtf: :omg: :wtf: :laugh: :wtf: :omg: :wtf: :omg: I call it emoticon art I think I recently read that Larry Ellison hired an investigator to investigate Bill Gate's wrong doings (he won the big brother award I think) maybe Bill should be doing the same :) Mike.NET So how do you fit into the .NET puzzle? ;P -:suss:Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179
Could you Would you with a goat? - Dr Suess****Matt Newman wrote: maybe Bill should be doing the same Who do you think started all the noise?;)
Eddie Velasquez: A Squeezed Devil
Checkout General Guidelines for C# Class Implementation -
****Matt Newman wrote: So how do you fit into the .NET puzzle? .NET puzzle? :confused: Mike M WinInsider.com
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:omg: :wtf: :omg: :wtf: :laugh: :wtf: :omg: :wtf: :omg: I call it emoticon art I think I recently read that Larry Ellison hired an investigator to investigate Bill Gate's wrong doings (he won the big brother award I think) maybe Bill should be doing the same :) Mike.NET So how do you fit into the .NET puzzle? ;P -:suss:Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179
Could you Would you with a goat? - Dr Suess****Matt Newman wrote: So how do you fit into the .NET puzzle? .NET puzzle? :confused: Mike M WinInsider.com
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A.A. wrote: But I agree in Oracle's case, they just goofed up the UI(this is esp. true, when working on lower end computers) I have a reasonable sort of PC, the thing is, I would have to work HARD to make a UI this bad in C++. For example, the table view has a scrollbar. If I scroll it too far, the display is corrupted, and cannot be restored, I need to close and reopen the view. That is not just bad design, it is abortional. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002
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I thought it showed up when they found out they overpaid $41 Million? -:suss:Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179
Could you Would you with a goat? - Dr SuessBut somebody had to blow the whistle.:suss:
Eddie Velasquez: A Squeezed Devil
Checkout General Guidelines for C# Class Implementation -
****Matt Newman wrote: It was a joke about your nick Mike.NET Hi my name is Mike and I am slow ;P :-D :-D :wtf: Don't X| Mike M WinInsider.com
I'm sorry, it was a pretty lame joke -:suss:Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179
Could you Would you with a goat? - Dr Suess