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  • F Fred_Smith

    think my favourite iss still this - just because it's so absurdly easy once you see it: A monk decides to spend a few days praying on a mountian top. So at crack of dawn (about 6 am) he has his cup of tea then starts walking up the meandering path that leads to the top. He rests every now and then, but presses on, and eventually arrives early afternoon sometime. He spends a couple of days up there in deep meditation, then decides it's tea time again, so on the third day, again soon after dawn, he starts off down the same path to the bottom. Obviously it's a quicker going down than up, but still it takes him a few hours, and he arrives back at his monastery late morning. Now the question is: can you prove (or disprove) that there is a point on the path that he occupied at exactly the same time of day on both journeys? .... Fred

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    Yes, on the way up he leaves at 6am, and arrives at early afternoon... On the way down, he leaves at 6am and arrives late morning... Therefore, for the journey up and down he must have crossed the same point at the same time *somewhere*, as his journey times are overlapping.

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    • E El Corazon

      okay, I got to meet more of my wife's family, including her niece (I am now uncle Jeff -- strange that). She had about a dozen logic puzzles, which I returned three on her. Time to gear up on ammo.... what are your favorite logic puzzles? Here are the ones I got her with: 1) You are driving a bus in a busy downtown city. When you come to first stop 15 people get on. At the second stop, 9 people get on, 2 people get off. At the third stop 6 people get off, 5 people get on. At the fourth, 4 people get on, 6 people get off. What is the name of the bus driver? 2) (an oldie) You are standing in a room with all southern exposure. You see a bear walk by. What is the color of the bear? 3) A boat sinks in the middle of the Mississippi river, on which side do you bury the survivors? 1) your name, you are the bus driver. 2) white, all wall point south, you are at the north pole, the bear is a polar bear. 3) neither, you do not bury survivors. -- modified at 16:39 Monday 27th August, 2007

      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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      How about these ones: Can you use the word "and" five times in a row in a complete and correct English sentence? One answer: You are trying to explain to a painter who is painting your sign for your business "Smith and Sons" that you aren't happy. You could say "The gaps between Smith and and and and and Sons are not wide enough". What are the next two letters in the following sequence? O, T, T, F, F, S. Answer: S, E. (they are the first letters of the words for 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8) How far can a dog walk into a forest? Answer: Half way, then he's walking out of the forest again. What belongs to you, but is used almost entirely by other people? Answer: Your name. What can you put into a barrel but not take out, and when you put them into the barrel, the barrel gets lighter? Answer: Holes. Imagine you are in a sinking rowboat surrounded by hungry sharks. How would you survive? Answer: (This one is a sneaky one.) You stop imagining. I am a precious gift, but I have no beginning, no end, and nothing in the middle. What am I? Answer: A ring. A girl has a certain number of pets. All but two are dogs, all but two are cats, and all but two are goats. How many pets does this girl have? Answer: Three. One dog, one cat and one goat. -- modified to add the answers above

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        How about these ones: Can you use the word "and" five times in a row in a complete and correct English sentence? One answer: You are trying to explain to a painter who is painting your sign for your business "Smith and Sons" that you aren't happy. You could say "The gaps between Smith and and and and and Sons are not wide enough". What are the next two letters in the following sequence? O, T, T, F, F, S. Answer: S, E. (they are the first letters of the words for 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8) How far can a dog walk into a forest? Answer: Half way, then he's walking out of the forest again. What belongs to you, but is used almost entirely by other people? Answer: Your name. What can you put into a barrel but not take out, and when you put them into the barrel, the barrel gets lighter? Answer: Holes. Imagine you are in a sinking rowboat surrounded by hungry sharks. How would you survive? Answer: (This one is a sneaky one.) You stop imagining. I am a precious gift, but I have no beginning, no end, and nothing in the middle. What am I? Answer: A ring. A girl has a certain number of pets. All but two are dogs, all but two are cats, and all but two are goats. How many pets does this girl have? Answer: Three. One dog, one cat and one goat. -- modified to add the answers above

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        _Damian S_ wrote:

        What belongs to you, but is used almost entirely by other people?

        Your name?

        _Damian S_ wrote:

        Imagine you are in a sinking rowboat surrounded by hungry sharks. How would you survive?

        Miraculously? ;P

        _Damian S_ wrote:

        I am a precious gift, but I have no beginning, no end, and nothing in the middle. What am I?

        A precious gift? ;P

        _Damian S_ wrote:

        A girl has a certain number of pets. All but two are dogs, all but two are cats, and all but two are goats. How many pets does this girl have?

        Two? And they are something else than dogs, cats or goats.

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          _Damian S_ wrote:

          What belongs to you, but is used almost entirely by other people?

          Your name?

          _Damian S_ wrote:

          Imagine you are in a sinking rowboat surrounded by hungry sharks. How would you survive?

          Miraculously? ;P

          _Damian S_ wrote:

          I am a precious gift, but I have no beginning, no end, and nothing in the middle. What am I?

          A precious gift? ;P

          _Damian S_ wrote:

          A girl has a certain number of pets. All but two are dogs, all but two are cats, and all but two are goats. How many pets does this girl have?

          Two? And they are something else than dogs, cats or goats.

          Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix Chihuahua, Mexico

          My Blog!

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          _Damian S_
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          Yes. Kind of. More specific please. No.

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          • _ _Damian S_

            Yes. Kind of. More specific please. No.

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            _Damian S_ wrote:

            Kind of.

            By luck? divine power?

            _Damian S_ wrote:

            More specific please.

            I have no idea, I was just kidding (you said at the beginning "I'm a precious gift") :)

            _Damian S_ wrote:

            No.

            Three, one of each?

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            • E El Corazon

              okay, I got to meet more of my wife's family, including her niece (I am now uncle Jeff -- strange that). She had about a dozen logic puzzles, which I returned three on her. Time to gear up on ammo.... what are your favorite logic puzzles? Here are the ones I got her with: 1) You are driving a bus in a busy downtown city. When you come to first stop 15 people get on. At the second stop, 9 people get on, 2 people get off. At the third stop 6 people get off, 5 people get on. At the fourth, 4 people get on, 6 people get off. What is the name of the bus driver? 2) (an oldie) You are standing in a room with all southern exposure. You see a bear walk by. What is the color of the bear? 3) A boat sinks in the middle of the Mississippi river, on which side do you bury the survivors? 1) your name, you are the bus driver. 2) white, all wall point south, you are at the north pole, the bear is a polar bear. 3) neither, you do not bury survivors. -- modified at 16:39 Monday 27th August, 2007

              _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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              Paul Conrad
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              I've heard other variations of #3...

              "Any sort of work in VB6 is bound to provide several WTF moments." - Christian Graus

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              • L Luis Alonso Ramos

                _Damian S_ wrote:

                Kind of.

                By luck? divine power?

                _Damian S_ wrote:

                More specific please.

                I have no idea, I was just kidding (you said at the beginning "I'm a precious gift") :)

                _Damian S_ wrote:

                No.

                Three, one of each?

                Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix Chihuahua, Mexico

                My Blog!

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                _Damian S_
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                I will post the answers in about 30 mins to give others a chance... But you have the last one right also now.

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                • _ _Damian S_

                  I will post the answers in about 30 mins to give others a chance... But you have the last one right also now.

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                  Luis Alonso Ramos
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                  Still, I think my previous answer of two is correct too. All of them but two are dogs (that leaves no dogs), all of them but two are cats (no cats).... two pets that are neither cats, dogs nor goats. :)

                  Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix Chihuahua, Mexico

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                  • M mav northwind

                    Another one (although probably not for a 14 year old...) A woman is 21 years older than her daughter. Six years from now she'll be 5 times her daughter's age. How old are the woman and her daughter now? Extra points will be awarded for the accompanying question: Where is the father? (sounds funny, but can really be solved) ;)

                    Regards, mav -- Black holes are the places where God divided by 0...

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                    Chris Maunder
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                    mav.northwind wrote:

                    Where is the father?

                    Do you want the kid-sister friendly answer or the other one? :-D

                    cheers, Chris Maunder

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                    • _ _Damian S_

                      Yes, on the way up he leaves at 6am, and arrives at early afternoon... On the way down, he leaves at 6am and arrives late morning... Therefore, for the journey up and down he must have crossed the same point at the same time *somewhere*, as his journey times are overlapping.

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                      Fred_Smith
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                      Yes, it's obvious enough, but just stating it as you have won't necesarily convince a 14-year old - you've just stated the answer withot saying why. The lateral thinking "trick" that might is to envisage two monks making that same journey on the same day - at some point they will meet on the path...

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                      • J Jim Crafton

                        You're waiting for your wife to finish dressing for an evening out. She turns to you and says, "Does this dress make me look fat?" How do you respond?

                        ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                        Jim Crafton wrote:

                        How do you respond?

                        "Yes, you look great."   Works like a charm.

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                        • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                          A doctor gives you three pills and tells you to take one every half hour, how long do the pills last.


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                          Two minutes, while I fetch a glass of water.  I always like trying out more than the recommended dose, especially tranquilisers .

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                          • M mav northwind

                            Another one (although probably not for a 14 year old...) A woman is 21 years older than her daughter. Six years from now she'll be 5 times her daughter's age. How old are the woman and her daughter now? Extra points will be awarded for the accompanying question: Where is the father? (sounds funny, but can really be solved) ;)

                            Regards, mav -- Black holes are the places where God divided by 0...

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                            Mothers age: x Daughters age: y From the first statement we get: x = 21 + y The second one gives us: x + 6 = 5(y + 6) Solving the second one for x gives us: x = 5y + 24 Therefore: x = 21 + y = 5y + 24 => y = 5y + 3 => -4y = 3 => y = -3/4 So the daughter is -3/4 years old, or minus 9 months. And that means that the location of the father is actually soapbox material :-) [modified]well this was obviously supposed to be an answer to the post above the one this actually got attachted to...[/modified]


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                            • L Lost User

                              First one I worked out - second one is off a kids movie cant remember the name so I knew the answer to that one - both good ones though. A man goes to work every day and gets the elevator to floor 20 then walks 5 flights to his office apart from when it is raining when he goes straight to the 25th floor Why is this? Dan

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                              Because he has a heart conrdition and needs the exercise. When it is raining, he is wearing a heavy coat to stay warm and dry, so he does not WANT to suffer from the heart attack, so he skips his daily exercise.

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                              • J Jim Crafton

                                You're waiting for your wife to finish dressing for an evening out. She turns to you and says, "Does this dress make me look fat?" How do you respond?

                                ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                                No honey, your FAT makes you look fat.

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                                • _ _Damian S_

                                  How about these ones: Can you use the word "and" five times in a row in a complete and correct English sentence? One answer: You are trying to explain to a painter who is painting your sign for your business "Smith and Sons" that you aren't happy. You could say "The gaps between Smith and and and and and Sons are not wide enough". What are the next two letters in the following sequence? O, T, T, F, F, S. Answer: S, E. (they are the first letters of the words for 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8) How far can a dog walk into a forest? Answer: Half way, then he's walking out of the forest again. What belongs to you, but is used almost entirely by other people? Answer: Your name. What can you put into a barrel but not take out, and when you put them into the barrel, the barrel gets lighter? Answer: Holes. Imagine you are in a sinking rowboat surrounded by hungry sharks. How would you survive? Answer: (This one is a sneaky one.) You stop imagining. I am a precious gift, but I have no beginning, no end, and nothing in the middle. What am I? Answer: A ring. A girl has a certain number of pets. All but two are dogs, all but two are cats, and all but two are goats. How many pets does this girl have? Answer: Three. One dog, one cat and one goat. -- modified to add the answers above

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                                  _Damian S_ wrote:

                                  I am a precious gift, but I have no beginning, no end, and nothing in the middle. What am I? Answer: A ring.

                                  A Krispy Kreme doughnut!

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                                  • P Pete OHanlon

                                    He's a "Person of restricted growth" who can't reach the button - except for the days he has his umbrella with him.

                                    Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                                    Nope its actually because the elevator only works past the 20th floor in the rain..... Just kidding you got it in one - heard it before or worked it out? It took me 30mins and umpteen guesses to get that one when my Grandad asked me. Looking at the facts thought it isnt that difficult so I must just be a little slow :-D

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                                    • E El Corazon

                                      okay, I got to meet more of my wife's family, including her niece (I am now uncle Jeff -- strange that). She had about a dozen logic puzzles, which I returned three on her. Time to gear up on ammo.... what are your favorite logic puzzles? Here are the ones I got her with: 1) You are driving a bus in a busy downtown city. When you come to first stop 15 people get on. At the second stop, 9 people get on, 2 people get off. At the third stop 6 people get off, 5 people get on. At the fourth, 4 people get on, 6 people get off. What is the name of the bus driver? 2) (an oldie) You are standing in a room with all southern exposure. You see a bear walk by. What is the color of the bear? 3) A boat sinks in the middle of the Mississippi river, on which side do you bury the survivors? 1) your name, you are the bus driver. 2) white, all wall point south, you are at the north pole, the bear is a polar bear. 3) neither, you do not bury survivors. -- modified at 16:39 Monday 27th August, 2007

                                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                      El Corazon wrote:

                                      1. You are driving a bus in a busy downtown city. When you come to first stop 15 people get on. At the second stop, 9 people get on, 2 people get off. At the third stop 6 people get off, 5 people get on. At the fourth, 4 people get on, 6 people get off. What is the name of the bus driver?

                                      I would have said "I don't know, because I can not be certain that the same people getting on don't imemdiately exit the bus." It is an unstated assumption, perhaps. Much like when we were at Disneyland the other day and my daughter insisted on riding the Merry-Go-Round, but as soon as I sat her on the horse, she started scremaing to get off. She got on, and then she got right back off before the ride even started! 15 + (9 - 2) = 22 unique people (same people got on get back off - wrong bus) 22 + (5 - 6) = 21 unique people (same people got off get back on - wrong stop!) 21 + (4 - 6) = 19 unique people (same people got on get back off - wrong bus) So, there is not enough information to determine the name of the driver!

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                                        El Corazon wrote:

                                        1. You are driving a bus in a busy downtown city. When you come to first stop 15 people get on. At the second stop, 9 people get on, 2 people get off. At the third stop 6 people get off, 5 people get on. At the fourth, 4 people get on, 6 people get off. What is the name of the bus driver?

                                        I would have said "I don't know, because I can not be certain that the same people getting on don't imemdiately exit the bus." It is an unstated assumption, perhaps. Much like when we were at Disneyland the other day and my daughter insisted on riding the Merry-Go-Round, but as soon as I sat her on the horse, she started scremaing to get off. She got on, and then she got right back off before the ride even started! 15 + (9 - 2) = 22 unique people (same people got on get back off - wrong bus) 22 + (5 - 6) = 21 unique people (same people got off get back on - wrong stop!) 21 + (4 - 6) = 19 unique people (same people got on get back off - wrong bus) So, there is not enough information to determine the name of the driver!

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                                        Blake Miller wrote:

                                        So, there is not enough information to determine the name of the driver!

                                        No there is enough information to determine the name of the driver, you're trying to determine the number of passengers. The two aren't related.

                                        -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                                          Blake Miller wrote:

                                          So, there is not enough information to determine the name of the driver!

                                          No there is enough information to determine the name of the driver, you're trying to determine the number of passengers. The two aren't related.

                                          -- You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer

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                                          Doh! I see it says "You are the driver of a bus..." then goes on to distract you with all this meaningless nformaiton about passengers. This indirection technique kind of reminds me of a Clinton political campaign!

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