Windows Vista SP1
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Hopefully not a repost; Windows Vista SP1[^]. What do people think, apart from "Don't use Vista, don't care"?
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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I like Vista, and I hope SP1 irons a few things out. But what on earth is the author on about when he says: "The Windows Update online service is one new way to deliver many OS improvements." It's been around since the old king died!
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martin_hughes wrote:
"The Windows Update online service is one new way to deliver many OS improvements."
It works differently in Vista. In Windows XP it was file based. You'd get the file that was updated. Now it is component based. You get the whole component again. The reason for this is that if you need to roll back out of sequence the file based approach would sometimes leave the system slightly unstable. Since a whole component is rolled back you should no longer get the situation where different parts of the component are at different versions.
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Well to be honest I'm not having any problems with Vista so I'm not really excited about a service pack.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
John Cardinal wrote:
Well to be honest I'm not having any problems with Vista so I'm not really excited about a service pack.
Vista works just fine for me. Although I do hope they fix that I'm-going-to-spend-twice-as-long-as-the-copy-operation-trying-to-work-out-how-long-the-copy-operation-will-take problem.
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Paul Watson wrote:
Hopefully not a repost;
Given that you posted this 90 minutes after the NDA embargo was lifted I would doubt it is a repost.
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90 minutes is a life time on the interwebs :) And I am not that in touch with Windows/Microsoft anymore so I do miss things.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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Hopefully not a repost; Windows Vista SP1[^]. What do people think, apart from "Don't use Vista, don't care"?
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
I'm waiting for SP1 for Vista SP1 - and then maybe SP2 or 3 for SQL Server and Visual Studio 2005. And let's not forget the 9000 Hotfixes that have to be applied.
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John Cardinal wrote:
Well to be honest I'm not having any problems with Vista so I'm not really excited about a service pack.
Vista works just fine for me. Although I do hope they fix that I'm-going-to-spend-twice-as-long-as-the-copy-operation-trying-to-work-out-how-long-the-copy-operation-will-take problem.
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Arrgggh - I hate that. It's my biggest bugbear with Vista.
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90 minutes is a life time on the interwebs :) And I am not that in touch with Windows/Microsoft anymore so I do miss things.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
Paul Watson wrote:
And I am not that in touch with Windows/Microsoft anymore so I do miss things
Really? I never realised that. So, what are you up to these days?
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Arrgggh - I hate that. It's my biggest bugbear with Vista.
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Pete O`Hanlon wrote:
It's my biggest bugbear with Vista.
It is the only thing I've found truely irritating.
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Paul Watson wrote:
And I am not that in touch with Windows/Microsoft anymore so I do miss things
Really? I never realised that. So, what are you up to these days?
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Building web applications for a research institute in Ireland. Mainly working with RSS, Atom, Ruby, JavaScript, MySQL, HTML and CSS. Mainly running on Solaris 10 and Ubuntu. Swapped to Mac OS X last year too.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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Pete O`Hanlon wrote:
It's my biggest bugbear with Vista.
It is the only thing I've found truely irritating.
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Pretty animation though. Gives me something to shout at.
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Hopefully not a repost; Windows Vista SP1[^]. What do people think, apart from "Don't use Vista, don't care"?
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
Forget SP1. I want some freakin Ultimate Extras. It's been a year and so far they've delivered a beta movie wallpaper thingy and a poker game. Don't sound too Ultimate to me...
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Well to be honest I'm not having any problems with Vista so I'm not really excited about a service pack.
"I don't want more choice. I just want better things!" - Edina Monsoon
Yep! Same here. Figure I will wait a while before I install SP1 as I sure do not want to mess it up if there are any problems with it.
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Forget SP1. I want some freakin Ultimate Extras. It's been a year and so far they've delivered a beta movie wallpaper thingy and a poker game. Don't sound too Ultimate to me...
Yeah, I think they should have left that either out of production or made it hidden until there put out some serious extras.
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John Cardinal wrote:
Well to be honest I'm not having any problems with Vista so I'm not really excited about a service pack.
Vista works just fine for me. Although I do hope they fix that I'm-going-to-spend-twice-as-long-as-the-copy-operation-trying-to-work-out-how-long-the-copy-operation-will-take problem.
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
Although I do hope they fix that I'm-going-to-spend-twice-as-long-as-the-copy-operation-trying-to-work-out-how-long-the-copy-operation-will-take problem.
That was supposedly fixed in one of the updates I got last night: When you copy or move a large file, the "estimated time remaining" takes a long time to be calculated and displayed. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/938979 I haven't tried it yet, but it didn't ever seem to big a big problem for me.
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Hopefully not a repost; Windows Vista SP1[^]. What do people think, apart from "Don't use Vista, don't care"?
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
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John Cardinal wrote:
Well to be honest I'm not having any problems with Vista so I'm not really excited about a service pack.
Vista works just fine for me. Although I do hope they fix that I'm-going-to-spend-twice-as-long-as-the-copy-operation-trying-to-work-out-how-long-the-copy-operation-will-take problem.
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
twice
I'd say more like 'ten-or-twenty-times'... I've not used Vista often (I don't use it, I only see it on my Dad's PC), but I've come across that issue several times, and would love to know how MS managed to introduce it and then not manage to find and fix it - I get it copying a file from one part of a local hard disk to another directory on the same disk, FFS!
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Pretty animation though. Gives me something to shout at.
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Pete O`Hanlon wrote:
Pretty animation though. Gives me something to shout at.
Yeah, and I do a lot of shouting at it. It's my only problem with Vista, like many others have said, but I find it extremely irritating. Also, on the same copy speed note, I have noticed that copying a large amount of small files to a USB memory stick takes forever. And by forever, I mean "100 files totalling 1.5Mb taking 5 mins". At first I thought it was my memory stick, but exactly the same operation under XP on another computer finishes up in a matter of seconds. Also, the update they released did nothing to fix it in my opinion... Large files are now better, but lots of small ones are still just as bad. PLEASE let this be fixed :sigh:
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John Cardinal wrote:
Well to be honest I'm not having any problems with Vista so I'm not really excited about a service pack.
Vista works just fine for me. Although I do hope they fix that I'm-going-to-spend-twice-as-long-as-the-copy-operation-trying-to-work-out-how-long-the-copy-operation-will-take problem.
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
Although I do hope they fix that I'm-going-to-spend-twice-as-long-as-the-copy-operation-trying-to-work-out-how-long-the-copy-operation-will-take problem.
Looks as though your wish has been granted; the Vista SP1 whitepaper contains the following under it's 'Performance' section: Improves the speed of copying and extracting files. Whitepaper here.[^]
It's turtles all the way down.
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regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
And with that, Paul closed his browser, sipped his herbal tea, fixed the flower in his hair, and smiled brightly at the multitude of cute, furry animals flocking around the grassy hillside where he sat coding Ruby on his Mac...
Poor guy ;) Next will probably be that you sell your Canon camera and get a Nikon og Olympus :rolleyes: BTW, still enjoying photography? I do, but mostly as a "professional" (Photographing motorsport mostly), not much time for just taking the camera and go for a walk just for the poor enjoyment of photographing.
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John Cardinal wrote:
Well to be honest I'm not having any problems with Vista so I'm not really excited about a service pack.
Vista works just fine for me. Although I do hope they fix that I'm-going-to-spend-twice-as-long-as-the-copy-operation-trying-to-work-out-how-long-the-copy-operation-will-take problem.
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This has been fixed (or at least made a lot better) with a hotfix. Some kind person posted a link here the other day but I'll repost the URL's for anyone who missed them. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=938979[^] Fixes numerous problems, long time spent estimating copy time being one of them. Also resolves a MAJOR issue I had with Vista corrupting large files stored in roaming locations. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=938194[^] Fixes other numerous problems, none of which I'm experiencing. Can't wait for the 1GB SP1 to be released next year!!!
-- The Obliterator