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    He is insane.

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    Pot calling the kettle black?

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      Here is an article from 60 Minutes[^]. It almost seems as if he is trying to find the right button to push. He either has great big balls or is completely stupid.


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      It's a farse, just like the past six years under our current administration. He and Bush are both pawns in the hands of radical ideological groups that would otherwise not be in power if the relatively secular but completely ignorant minds saw their them in their full force. It's already too late for Iran, they won't break free of their extremist leadership, that's been in place for 30-something years. America still has that choice, even if elections are rigged, as long as the Constitution still stands and the Courts are willing to uphold it. You may want to vote me down, but look... as the right buttons get pushed, a zombified populace will always go along with what seems right at that moment, going along with the "leader" that says what they want to hear. That's why we are in Iraq, that's why millions of Jews have been killed in the concentration camps. Psyched up but totaly ignorant people. In case of Iraq, there hasn't been any sufficient planning put in before the invasion. Just tons of excitement, money and scantly clad celebrities posing in camouflage-themed rags. In the case of the masacre brought on by the Nazis, it's just an instance of picking a scapegoat for the problems the society has brought on to itself. During the French Revolution, the people were justifiably angry at the royal family, but then after they have been removed from the throne, the new government wasn't able to handle the same problems, but the "enemy of the people" spirit hadn't wore off, and the response to continue killing, and killing, and killing. Now think of Stalin. If that wan't enough, Pol Pot. And this was thoroughly modern nations. Things like this may continute to repeat as long as nobody learns from history. It's about time Soapbox-ians stopped blindly arguing and trolling, and sat down to think. Roswell

      "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
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        It's a farse, just like the past six years under our current administration. He and Bush are both pawns in the hands of radical ideological groups that would otherwise not be in power if the relatively secular but completely ignorant minds saw their them in their full force. It's already too late for Iran, they won't break free of their extremist leadership, that's been in place for 30-something years. America still has that choice, even if elections are rigged, as long as the Constitution still stands and the Courts are willing to uphold it. You may want to vote me down, but look... as the right buttons get pushed, a zombified populace will always go along with what seems right at that moment, going along with the "leader" that says what they want to hear. That's why we are in Iraq, that's why millions of Jews have been killed in the concentration camps. Psyched up but totaly ignorant people. In case of Iraq, there hasn't been any sufficient planning put in before the invasion. Just tons of excitement, money and scantly clad celebrities posing in camouflage-themed rags. In the case of the masacre brought on by the Nazis, it's just an instance of picking a scapegoat for the problems the society has brought on to itself. During the French Revolution, the people were justifiably angry at the royal family, but then after they have been removed from the throne, the new government wasn't able to handle the same problems, but the "enemy of the people" spirit hadn't wore off, and the response to continue killing, and killing, and killing. Now think of Stalin. If that wan't enough, Pol Pot. And this was thoroughly modern nations. Things like this may continute to repeat as long as nobody learns from history. It's about time Soapbox-ians stopped blindly arguing and trolling, and sat down to think. Roswell

        "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
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        City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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        R Giskard Reventlov
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          It's a farse, just like the past six years under our current administration. He and Bush are both pawns in the hands of radical ideological groups that would otherwise not be in power if the relatively secular but completely ignorant minds saw their them in their full force. It's already too late for Iran, they won't break free of their extremist leadership, that's been in place for 30-something years. America still has that choice, even if elections are rigged, as long as the Constitution still stands and the Courts are willing to uphold it. You may want to vote me down, but look... as the right buttons get pushed, a zombified populace will always go along with what seems right at that moment, going along with the "leader" that says what they want to hear. That's why we are in Iraq, that's why millions of Jews have been killed in the concentration camps. Psyched up but totaly ignorant people. In case of Iraq, there hasn't been any sufficient planning put in before the invasion. Just tons of excitement, money and scantly clad celebrities posing in camouflage-themed rags. In the case of the masacre brought on by the Nazis, it's just an instance of picking a scapegoat for the problems the society has brought on to itself. During the French Revolution, the people were justifiably angry at the royal family, but then after they have been removed from the throne, the new government wasn't able to handle the same problems, but the "enemy of the people" spirit hadn't wore off, and the response to continue killing, and killing, and killing. Now think of Stalin. If that wan't enough, Pol Pot. And this was thoroughly modern nations. Things like this may continute to repeat as long as nobody learns from history. It's about time Soapbox-ians stopped blindly arguing and trolling, and sat down to think. Roswell

          "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
          Antonio VillaRaigosa
          City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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          Stan Shannon
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          RoswellNX wrote:

          a zombified populace will always go along with what seems right at that moment, going along with the "leader" that says what they want to hear.

          Except for you, of course... :rolleyes:

          RoswellNX wrote:

          It's about time Soapbox-ians stopped blindly arguing and trolling, and sat down to think.

          Isn't it a little arrogant to assume that anyone who "sat down to think" is going to arrive at the same conclusions as yourself? Frankly, when I set down to think, what occurs to me is something along the lines of "Sweet Jesus but those democrats are fucking socialists!" Doesn't it ever occur to you while you are setting down and thinking that in a democracy the winning side is always going to appear to be "a zombified populace" to the loseing side? As far as I am concerned, the fact that you cannot distinquish between the processess that put Bush into power and those that put Ahmadinejad into power, leads me to conclude that I hope people who think like you do when they set down stay as far the fuck away from power as possible.

          The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hyprocrisy is no morality at all.

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            RoswellNX wrote:

            a zombified populace will always go along with what seems right at that moment, going along with the "leader" that says what they want to hear.

            Except for you, of course... :rolleyes:

            RoswellNX wrote:

            It's about time Soapbox-ians stopped blindly arguing and trolling, and sat down to think.

            Isn't it a little arrogant to assume that anyone who "sat down to think" is going to arrive at the same conclusions as yourself? Frankly, when I set down to think, what occurs to me is something along the lines of "Sweet Jesus but those democrats are fucking socialists!" Doesn't it ever occur to you while you are setting down and thinking that in a democracy the winning side is always going to appear to be "a zombified populace" to the loseing side? As far as I am concerned, the fact that you cannot distinquish between the processess that put Bush into power and those that put Ahmadinejad into power, leads me to conclude that I hope people who think like you do when they set down stay as far the fuck away from power as possible.

            The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hyprocrisy is no morality at all.

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            Stan Shannon wrote:

            when I set down to think, what occurs to me is something along the lines of "Sweet Jesus but those democrats are f****ing socialists!

            :laugh:

            Stan Shannon wrote:

            the winning side is always going to appear to be "a zombified populace

            isn't this the typical american line of thinking? "im so smart, the "other guys" are so stupid, why cant they all see my points." its always the losing side who thinks that they've been screwed by democracy. we're all spoiled children at the end of the day, bitching because we lost the game of kick ball...

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              RoswellNX wrote:

              a zombified populace will always go along with what seems right at that moment, going along with the "leader" that says what they want to hear.

              Except for you, of course... :rolleyes:

              RoswellNX wrote:

              It's about time Soapbox-ians stopped blindly arguing and trolling, and sat down to think.

              Isn't it a little arrogant to assume that anyone who "sat down to think" is going to arrive at the same conclusions as yourself? Frankly, when I set down to think, what occurs to me is something along the lines of "Sweet Jesus but those democrats are fucking socialists!" Doesn't it ever occur to you while you are setting down and thinking that in a democracy the winning side is always going to appear to be "a zombified populace" to the loseing side? As far as I am concerned, the fact that you cannot distinquish between the processess that put Bush into power and those that put Ahmadinejad into power, leads me to conclude that I hope people who think like you do when they set down stay as far the fuck away from power as possible.

              The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hyprocrisy is no morality at all.

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              Quote: Except for you, of course... She was demonstrating the Lake Wobegon Effect: Experiments and surveys have repeatedly shown that most people believe that they possess attributes that are better or more desirable than average.

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                Quote: Except for you, of course... She was demonstrating the Lake Wobegon Effect: Experiments and surveys have repeatedly shown that most people believe that they possess attributes that are better or more desirable than average.

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                INITCOMMONCONTROLSEX wrote:

                Experiments and surveys have repeatedly shown that most people believe that they possess attributes that are better or more desirable than average.

                Obviously. But for some of us one of those attributes includes being humble about being better...

                The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hyprocrisy is no morality at all.

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                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                  when I set down to think, what occurs to me is something along the lines of "Sweet Jesus but those democrats are f****ing socialists!

                  :laugh:

                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                  the winning side is always going to appear to be "a zombified populace

                  isn't this the typical american line of thinking? "im so smart, the "other guys" are so stupid, why cant they all see my points." its always the losing side who thinks that they've been screwed by democracy. we're all spoiled children at the end of the day, bitching because we lost the game of kick ball...

                  [Insert Witty Sig Here]

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                  VonHagNDaz wrote:

                  isn't this the typical american line of thinking? "im so smart, the "other guys" are so stupid, why cant they all see my points." its always the losing side who thinks that they've been screwed by democracy. we're all spoiled children at the end of the day, bitching because we lost the game of kick ball...

                  :sigh:

                  The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hyprocrisy is no morality at all.

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                    It's a farse, just like the past six years under our current administration. He and Bush are both pawns in the hands of radical ideological groups that would otherwise not be in power if the relatively secular but completely ignorant minds saw their them in their full force. It's already too late for Iran, they won't break free of their extremist leadership, that's been in place for 30-something years. America still has that choice, even if elections are rigged, as long as the Constitution still stands and the Courts are willing to uphold it. You may want to vote me down, but look... as the right buttons get pushed, a zombified populace will always go along with what seems right at that moment, going along with the "leader" that says what they want to hear. That's why we are in Iraq, that's why millions of Jews have been killed in the concentration camps. Psyched up but totaly ignorant people. In case of Iraq, there hasn't been any sufficient planning put in before the invasion. Just tons of excitement, money and scantly clad celebrities posing in camouflage-themed rags. In the case of the masacre brought on by the Nazis, it's just an instance of picking a scapegoat for the problems the society has brought on to itself. During the French Revolution, the people were justifiably angry at the royal family, but then after they have been removed from the throne, the new government wasn't able to handle the same problems, but the "enemy of the people" spirit hadn't wore off, and the response to continue killing, and killing, and killing. Now think of Stalin. If that wan't enough, Pol Pot. And this was thoroughly modern nations. Things like this may continute to repeat as long as nobody learns from history. It's about time Soapbox-ians stopped blindly arguing and trolling, and sat down to think. Roswell

                    "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
                    Antonio VillaRaigosa
                    City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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                    lost in transition
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                    RoswellNX wrote:

                    You may want to vote me down

                    Wasn't going to.

                    RoswellNX wrote:

                    Soapbox-ians stopped blindly arguing and trolling

                    I hope you don't think I was. Just waking up so bare with me. Things are what they are, and learning from history isn't going to change much. Why, because someone will learn the mistakes of the Nazis, Stalin, and even Saddam. People with evil intent will also have evil on the mind. There will always be the majority that is blind and goes about doing whatever they are told because it feels right at the time. Also, there is a group of people that are willing to lead them, whether the leader's intention are for good or evil that makes the difference. My position is: we should hang Bin Ladin, Saddam got what he deserved. If Ahmadinejad gets out of line and starts killing his people like Saddam or if he makes a move at Israel and/or any acts against other countries. Then we should go destroy his army, hang him, and then leave that country. Wars are going to happen, people innocent or not will die, and there will even be someone who makes a lot of money out of it. That is, in my opinion, just human nature. Not sure if I made sense, I am still waking up.


                    God Bless, Jason
                    I am not perfect but I try to be better than those before me. So those who come after me will be better than I am.

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                      Stan Shannon wrote:

                      when I set down to think, what occurs to me is something along the lines of "Sweet Jesus but those democrats are f****ing socialists!

                      :laugh:

                      Stan Shannon wrote:

                      the winning side is always going to appear to be "a zombified populace

                      isn't this the typical american line of thinking? "im so smart, the "other guys" are so stupid, why cant they all see my points." its always the losing side who thinks that they've been screwed by democracy. we're all spoiled children at the end of the day, bitching because we lost the game of kick ball...

                      [Insert Witty Sig Here]

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                      VonHagNDaz wrote:

                      isn't this the typical american line of thinking?

                      I seems to apply pretty well to Europeans and others as well.

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                        VonHagNDaz wrote:

                        isn't this the typical american line of thinking?

                        I seems to apply pretty well to Europeans and others as well.

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                        yup yup, were just more vocal with our complaints

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                          Here is an article from 60 Minutes[^]. It almost seems as if he is trying to find the right button to push. He either has great big balls or is completely stupid.


                          God Bless, Jason
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                          I watched an interview with Ed Koch (former NYC Mayor) and he said that under the law, NYC must give him a police escort. But he said they should do what Laguardia (another former mayor) did years ago when a German representative came to the U.N. He asked for Jewish officers to volunteer for the escort.

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                            INITCOMMONCONTROLSEX wrote:

                            Experiments and surveys have repeatedly shown that most people believe that they possess attributes that are better or more desirable than average.

                            Obviously. But for some of us one of those attributes includes being humble about being better...

                            The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hyprocrisy is no morality at all.

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                            led mike
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                            Stan Shannon wrote:

                            But for some of us one of those attributes includes being humble about being better...

                            :laugh::laugh: Now that was funny!

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                              Here is an article from 60 Minutes[^]. It almost seems as if he is trying to find the right button to push. He either has great big balls or is completely stupid.


                              God Bless, Jason
                              I am not perfect but I try to be better than those before me. So those who come after me will be better than I am.

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                              I couldn't care less. If Ahmadinejad wants to go to the site, let him.

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                                It's a farse, just like the past six years under our current administration. He and Bush are both pawns in the hands of radical ideological groups that would otherwise not be in power if the relatively secular but completely ignorant minds saw their them in their full force. It's already too late for Iran, they won't break free of their extremist leadership, that's been in place for 30-something years. America still has that choice, even if elections are rigged, as long as the Constitution still stands and the Courts are willing to uphold it. You may want to vote me down, but look... as the right buttons get pushed, a zombified populace will always go along with what seems right at that moment, going along with the "leader" that says what they want to hear. That's why we are in Iraq, that's why millions of Jews have been killed in the concentration camps. Psyched up but totaly ignorant people. In case of Iraq, there hasn't been any sufficient planning put in before the invasion. Just tons of excitement, money and scantly clad celebrities posing in camouflage-themed rags. In the case of the masacre brought on by the Nazis, it's just an instance of picking a scapegoat for the problems the society has brought on to itself. During the French Revolution, the people were justifiably angry at the royal family, but then after they have been removed from the throne, the new government wasn't able to handle the same problems, but the "enemy of the people" spirit hadn't wore off, and the response to continue killing, and killing, and killing. Now think of Stalin. If that wan't enough, Pol Pot. And this was thoroughly modern nations. Things like this may continute to repeat as long as nobody learns from history. It's about time Soapbox-ians stopped blindly arguing and trolling, and sat down to think. Roswell

                                "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
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                                City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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                                RoswellNX wrote:

                                It's a farse

                                Hmm, would that be a 'Pharsee farce'

                                Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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                                  I couldn't care less. If Ahmadinejad wants to go to the site, let him.

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                                  oilFactotum wrote:

                                  I couldn't care less. If Ahmadinejad wants to go to the site, let him.

                                  And the world releases a collective gasp!


                                  If liberals are not traitors, their only fallback argument at this point is that they're really stupid. -Ann Coulter

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                                    oilFactotum wrote:

                                    I couldn't care less. If Ahmadinejad wants to go to the site, let him.

                                    And the world releases a collective gasp!


                                    If liberals are not traitors, their only fallback argument at this point is that they're really stupid. -Ann Coulter

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                                    :zzz:

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                                      Pot calling the kettle black?

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                                      Marijuana calling the kettle a nigger?

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                                        Marijuana calling the kettle a nigger?

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                                        Marijuana calling the kettle a nigger?

                                        I thought salvia was your drug of choice, asshole? :mad:

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