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  • A Anton Afanasyev

    Just noticed this: while I'm in Notepad2, and i start typing stuff, something inside my computer produces a noise. A crackling/buzzing/frying/ANNOYING very high-pitched noise. Nobody else I've asked can hear it, but then again, there are many things that I can hear and people around me cant. Same thing happens when I scroll inside Notepad2. Now, whilst this doesnt happen outside of Notepad2, I dont think its an issue that is specific to this program alone, I think that something got messed up in my system. Anyone else has had this kind of noise? Any pointers? Thanks. /me puts on headphones and doubles the volume...

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    raicuandi
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    Yeah, happened to me too some years ago, at an old PC. Have you tried using another monitor? Maybe if a friend has a new LCD one, you could give it a try, can't hurt...

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    • A Anton Afanasyev

      Just noticed this: while I'm in Notepad2, and i start typing stuff, something inside my computer produces a noise. A crackling/buzzing/frying/ANNOYING very high-pitched noise. Nobody else I've asked can hear it, but then again, there are many things that I can hear and people around me cant. Same thing happens when I scroll inside Notepad2. Now, whilst this doesnt happen outside of Notepad2, I dont think its an issue that is specific to this program alone, I think that something got messed up in my system. Anyone else has had this kind of noise? Any pointers? Thanks. /me puts on headphones and doubles the volume...

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      DBuckner
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      I hear that kind of sound if I don't plug in the audio on the KVM switch I use. Maybe not the same case as you, but who knows. :) Dave

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      • A Anton Afanasyev

        Just noticed this: while I'm in Notepad2, and i start typing stuff, something inside my computer produces a noise. A crackling/buzzing/frying/ANNOYING very high-pitched noise. Nobody else I've asked can hear it, but then again, there are many things that I can hear and people around me cant. Same thing happens when I scroll inside Notepad2. Now, whilst this doesnt happen outside of Notepad2, I dont think its an issue that is specific to this program alone, I think that something got messed up in my system. Anyone else has had this kind of noise? Any pointers? Thanks. /me puts on headphones and doubles the volume...

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        Norbie
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        I've had a similar thing happen on older PCs. I put it down to electromagnetic emissions from the CPU/RAM/whatever being picked up by the circuitry driving the PC speaker, which amplifies it into that annoying buzzing noise. Try disconnecting your speaker and see if the noise goes away!

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        • A Anton Afanasyev

          Just noticed this: while I'm in Notepad2, and i start typing stuff, something inside my computer produces a noise. A crackling/buzzing/frying/ANNOYING very high-pitched noise. Nobody else I've asked can hear it, but then again, there are many things that I can hear and people around me cant. Same thing happens when I scroll inside Notepad2. Now, whilst this doesnt happen outside of Notepad2, I dont think its an issue that is specific to this program alone, I think that something got messed up in my system. Anyone else has had this kind of noise? Any pointers? Thanks. /me puts on headphones and doubles the volume...

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          Chris Maunder
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          Anton Afanasyev wrote:

          something inside my computer produces a noise

          Step away from the computer. Slowly. And find a stick.

          cheers, Chris Maunder

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          • A Anton Afanasyev

            Just noticed this: while I'm in Notepad2, and i start typing stuff, something inside my computer produces a noise. A crackling/buzzing/frying/ANNOYING very high-pitched noise. Nobody else I've asked can hear it, but then again, there are many things that I can hear and people around me cant. Same thing happens when I scroll inside Notepad2. Now, whilst this doesnt happen outside of Notepad2, I dont think its an issue that is specific to this program alone, I think that something got messed up in my system. Anyone else has had this kind of noise? Any pointers? Thanks. /me puts on headphones and doubles the volume...

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            peterchen
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            Mine does when I minimize/restore a window, but only if it does the animation. As norbie said, probably some graphics card electronics picking up other electronics garbage.


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            • A Anton Afanasyev

              Just noticed this: while I'm in Notepad2, and i start typing stuff, something inside my computer produces a noise. A crackling/buzzing/frying/ANNOYING very high-pitched noise. Nobody else I've asked can hear it, but then again, there are many things that I can hear and people around me cant. Same thing happens when I scroll inside Notepad2. Now, whilst this doesnt happen outside of Notepad2, I dont think its an issue that is specific to this program alone, I think that something got messed up in my system. Anyone else has had this kind of noise? Any pointers? Thanks. /me puts on headphones and doubles the volume...

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              Member 96
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              Yeah I had this happen before, I too hear those high pitched whines. I can walk through a neighborhood at night and tell every house that has a CRT type tv on just from that whining sound they make. It's likely your monitor, I have never heard it since I went to an LCD. I remember hearing it when I was doing specific things like opening a file or scrolling with the mouse wheel.


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              • A Anton Afanasyev

                Just noticed this: while I'm in Notepad2, and i start typing stuff, something inside my computer produces a noise. A crackling/buzzing/frying/ANNOYING very high-pitched noise. Nobody else I've asked can hear it, but then again, there are many things that I can hear and people around me cant. Same thing happens when I scroll inside Notepad2. Now, whilst this doesnt happen outside of Notepad2, I dont think its an issue that is specific to this program alone, I think that something got messed up in my system. Anyone else has had this kind of noise? Any pointers? Thanks. /me puts on headphones and doubles the volume...

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                Luca Leonardo Scorcia
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                Happens to me all the time. I found that the electrical paths on the motherboard for the audio card are near to the ones of my hard drive. Thus, I hear a high-pitched noise every time the hard drive is in use. As you, I just cover it up with music...

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                • A Anton Afanasyev

                  Just noticed this: while I'm in Notepad2, and i start typing stuff, something inside my computer produces a noise. A crackling/buzzing/frying/ANNOYING very high-pitched noise. Nobody else I've asked can hear it, but then again, there are many things that I can hear and people around me cant. Same thing happens when I scroll inside Notepad2. Now, whilst this doesnt happen outside of Notepad2, I dont think its an issue that is specific to this program alone, I think that something got messed up in my system. Anyone else has had this kind of noise? Any pointers? Thanks. /me puts on headphones and doubles the volume...

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                  nplumridge
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                  My Dell laptop makes a high-pitched whining noise when the wi-fi is turned on. The sound of that changes as I scroll, or move the mouse around. Really annoying! I've seen references to faulty capacitors when I've hunted for information about it, but since it's mostly used at work with a network cable I've never done anything about it.

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                  • A Anton Afanasyev

                    El Corazon wrote:

                    Actually I too hear beyond "average" human hearing

                    Dunno what your range is, but for me, TVs are a pain to be near when they show nothing on the screen...even to the point where I had to ask one of my teachers in school to turn the TV off, as there was a powerpoint streaming to it, and it was annoying. It was hard to explain to the teacher...... :/

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                    Lost User
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                    Flyback oscillator noise, 16kHz or so. The joy of flat panels :cool:

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                    • A Anton Afanasyev

                      Just noticed this: while I'm in Notepad2, and i start typing stuff, something inside my computer produces a noise. A crackling/buzzing/frying/ANNOYING very high-pitched noise. Nobody else I've asked can hear it, but then again, there are many things that I can hear and people around me cant. Same thing happens when I scroll inside Notepad2. Now, whilst this doesnt happen outside of Notepad2, I dont think its an issue that is specific to this program alone, I think that something got messed up in my system. Anyone else has had this kind of noise? Any pointers? Thanks. /me puts on headphones and doubles the volume...

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                      ikhavkin
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                      Anton, do not panic! :) You are not alone :)) I do hear high-frequency sound sometimes when just scrolling text when most of cooling fans are running on low speed :) (I have LCD monitor, sound seems to be coming from motherboard). AFAIK such problems occur very frequently, my second (older) computer has even more 'loud' sound in some cases (and there was even thread on hardware forum for specific motherboard of those computer, many others suffered from it). Some notebooks have similar problems too. I believe that in most cases this sound is caused by circuits of motherboard powering CPU. Modern CPUs consume a lot of energy and exact amount of energy that is needed depends on task of CPU. Those rapid changes in power consumption may cause such noise in power circuit near CPU (some people believe it is caused by inductances vibrating, somebody even tried to fix it by superglue on most 'noisy' inductance :)) personally I'm not going to try to fix it this way, I'm just saying that there could be cases when hi-frequency sounds are caused mostly by one component on motherboard) I have found interesting study about such noises - Acoustic cryptanalysis (I hope it is not dedicated to 1st of April :))) ) - http://people.csail.mit.edu/tromer/acoustic/ It is about possibility to use such sound for cryptoanalysis, and they state that sound (interesting for their purpose) are usually higher than 10kHz (so 'high-frequency audible hiss' seems to be suitable for such sounds perfectly :) ). Igor.

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                      • A Anton Afanasyev

                        Just noticed this: while I'm in Notepad2, and i start typing stuff, something inside my computer produces a noise. A crackling/buzzing/frying/ANNOYING very high-pitched noise. Nobody else I've asked can hear it, but then again, there are many things that I can hear and people around me cant. Same thing happens when I scroll inside Notepad2. Now, whilst this doesnt happen outside of Notepad2, I dont think its an issue that is specific to this program alone, I think that something got messed up in my system. Anyone else has had this kind of noise? Any pointers? Thanks. /me puts on headphones and doubles the volume...

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                        wbjohnson
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                        hi are u using a dual core cpu? there are a few reports out there that new Santa Rosa cpu range can make funny high pitched noises :S

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                        • R raicuandi

                          Yeah, happened to me too some years ago, at an old PC. Have you tried using another monitor? Maybe if a friend has a new LCD one, you could give it a try, can't hurt...

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                          Joel S
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                          I would suggest trying a new monitor too. I had a similar problem with "buzzing" noise caused by certain applications and mouse movement. Some type of frequency interference i think. New monitor worked for me. I also had a noise problem with an old laptop that i never figured out...perhaps it was just at the end of its life.

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                          • A Anton Afanasyev

                            Just noticed this: while I'm in Notepad2, and i start typing stuff, something inside my computer produces a noise. A crackling/buzzing/frying/ANNOYING very high-pitched noise. Nobody else I've asked can hear it, but then again, there are many things that I can hear and people around me cant. Same thing happens when I scroll inside Notepad2. Now, whilst this doesnt happen outside of Notepad2, I dont think its an issue that is specific to this program alone, I think that something got messed up in my system. Anyone else has had this kind of noise? Any pointers? Thanks. /me puts on headphones and doubles the volume...

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                            FanatiX
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                            hi, i have this problem too. in fact it source are a: fan controller's manual volume control wich produces "flanger" noise wich is finally send out by my tuner AND b: the voltage converters.... i even hear it when the pc is idle (the volume control thing). i assume its a whistling sound wich occurs on your pc. thats the noise wich is often produced by these voltage converters. try to locate them and listen... but. hey...even if you are able to locate the noise source you have to replace the mobo to (propably) fix it.

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                            • A Anton Afanasyev

                              Just noticed this: while I'm in Notepad2, and i start typing stuff, something inside my computer produces a noise. A crackling/buzzing/frying/ANNOYING very high-pitched noise. Nobody else I've asked can hear it, but then again, there are many things that I can hear and people around me cant. Same thing happens when I scroll inside Notepad2. Now, whilst this doesnt happen outside of Notepad2, I dont think its an issue that is specific to this program alone, I think that something got messed up in my system. Anyone else has had this kind of noise? Any pointers? Thanks. /me puts on headphones and doubles the volume...

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                              Jasper 3 1415926
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                              Hi Anton!

                              Anton Afanasyev wrote:

                              something inside my computer produces a noise

                              I've often had similar experience. Im my case it was the keyboard cable inducing noise into the speaker ciruitry. To much more extent cellular phones have such effect onto various electric ciruitry. Do you have active speakers? You may try to insolate speaker cables from keyboard cables or use shielded cables.

                              Jasper

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                              • A Anton Afanasyev

                                Just noticed this: while I'm in Notepad2, and i start typing stuff, something inside my computer produces a noise. A crackling/buzzing/frying/ANNOYING very high-pitched noise. Nobody else I've asked can hear it, but then again, there are many things that I can hear and people around me cant. Same thing happens when I scroll inside Notepad2. Now, whilst this doesnt happen outside of Notepad2, I dont think its an issue that is specific to this program alone, I think that something got messed up in my system. Anyone else has had this kind of noise? Any pointers? Thanks. /me puts on headphones and doubles the volume...

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                                Lost User
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                                As a matter of fact, I hear something like that when debugging hardware shaders, the noise is even higher than the TV-noise (which no one seems to hear either)

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                                • A Anton Afanasyev

                                  Well, ive though about it already...took the case off, and its coming somewhere from...either RAM, video card, or the motherboard itself. Not exactly easy to isolate. Whats worse, is that the closer i listen to it(ie, bring my ear closer to each of these components), the less I can hear the sound. Ah well, I'll wait some time until maybe somebody has any other suggestions (doubt it though, a very broad/unanswerable question :/ ). Over the weekend I just might try removing RAM sticks one by one (i got 4..oh joy), see if that makes a difference. Then maybe swap the video card...ahh, sounds like a fun weekend away from code :laugh:

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                                  Andre Sanches alvs
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                                  I can also hear this high pitched noise, it's even more evident when you put the computer to sleep (not hibernate). Try that with your case open and it should be easier to isolate.

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                                  • A Anton Afanasyev

                                    Just noticed this: while I'm in Notepad2, and i start typing stuff, something inside my computer produces a noise. A crackling/buzzing/frying/ANNOYING very high-pitched noise. Nobody else I've asked can hear it, but then again, there are many things that I can hear and people around me cant. Same thing happens when I scroll inside Notepad2. Now, whilst this doesnt happen outside of Notepad2, I dont think its an issue that is specific to this program alone, I think that something got messed up in my system. Anyone else has had this kind of noise? Any pointers? Thanks. /me puts on headphones and doubles the volume...

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                                    Thunderbox666
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                                    Anton Afanasyev wrote:

                                    but then again, there are many things that I can hear and people around me cant

                                    Im the same... but my psyciatrist said that the voices arnt real. :laugh: But seriously, I would check the moving parts first (fans, HDD, CD/DVD, etc), and if they are all fine, maybe you just are sensitive to certain frequencies or something. I know i hear the high pitch screaming from monitors and TVs and stuff like that.

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                                    • A Anton Afanasyev

                                      Just noticed this: while I'm in Notepad2, and i start typing stuff, something inside my computer produces a noise. A crackling/buzzing/frying/ANNOYING very high-pitched noise. Nobody else I've asked can hear it, but then again, there are many things that I can hear and people around me cant. Same thing happens when I scroll inside Notepad2. Now, whilst this doesnt happen outside of Notepad2, I dont think its an issue that is specific to this program alone, I think that something got messed up in my system. Anyone else has had this kind of noise? Any pointers? Thanks. /me puts on headphones and doubles the volume...

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                                      BoneSoft
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                                      If you're running Vista, it's probably internally bitching about you using something so simple and un-bloated. However, a couple of months ago I started to notice a similar noise that would happen anytime the process was in constant use. After a month it was really noticable. Two weeks later it was noticable sitting idle, and loud when the processor was pegged. Then is started spontaneously rebooting. Checked hardware monitors in the BIOS and noticed that the power supply fan was running low RPMs. I replaced the PS two weeks ago, and it's feeling much better now.


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                                      • A Anton Afanasyev

                                        Well, ive though about it already...took the case off, and its coming somewhere from...either RAM, video card, or the motherboard itself. Not exactly easy to isolate. Whats worse, is that the closer i listen to it(ie, bring my ear closer to each of these components), the less I can hear the sound. Ah well, I'll wait some time until maybe somebody has any other suggestions (doubt it though, a very broad/unanswerable question :/ ). Over the weekend I just might try removing RAM sticks one by one (i got 4..oh joy), see if that makes a difference. Then maybe swap the video card...ahh, sounds like a fun weekend away from code :laugh:

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                                        BoneSoft
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                                        It can't be the RAM, they have no moving parts. I would bet on a fan or the power supply. That reminds me of a story... I had a processor fan that was starting to die, at first it sounded like a cable was slightly too close the the blades. But then it stopped running. If you thumped it, it would start and run, it just couldn't get started on it's own. So I went to Best Buy looking for a new fan, and this Best Buy kid tried to tell me that it was the heat sink and not the fan that was making noise. So for 10 minutes, I made him try to explain to me how the heat sink could make broken fan noises. He tried, it was good entertainment.


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                                        • J Joel S

                                          I would suggest trying a new monitor too. I had a similar problem with "buzzing" noise caused by certain applications and mouse movement. Some type of frequency interference i think. New monitor worked for me. I also had a noise problem with an old laptop that i never figured out...perhaps it was just at the end of its life.

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                                          BoneSoft
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                                          That's true, some old CRTs can make noise especially when there's a lot of white background (for some odd reason). But it sounds like you're hearing it in the case.


                                          Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.

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