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    :confused: I just noticed this happening... I have a matrix of 4 monitors. 2 19" on the bottom and 2 17" on the top. I can move the mouse horizontally between the two 17" monitors as slow as I want with no problem. I can do the same vertically between the 19" and the 17" monitors. The problem comes in when tyring to move horizontally between the two 19" monitors on the bottom. If I move the mouse slowly (no real way to quantify what 'slow' really is here so it's just slow) the mouse pointer will NOT cross the border, BUT... If I back the pointer up and get some 'inertia' and slam the mouse pointer against the edge of the screen then it will cross the border and move to the other monitor. It acts this way in both directions. It also acts this way even if I am dragging a window across the border. Doing it slow will cause the drag to stall once O get to the mouse pointer but if I drag quick it will go across. VERY odd... :confused:


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      :confused: I just noticed this happening... I have a matrix of 4 monitors. 2 19" on the bottom and 2 17" on the top. I can move the mouse horizontally between the two 17" monitors as slow as I want with no problem. I can do the same vertically between the 19" and the 17" monitors. The problem comes in when tyring to move horizontally between the two 19" monitors on the bottom. If I move the mouse slowly (no real way to quantify what 'slow' really is here so it's just slow) the mouse pointer will NOT cross the border, BUT... If I back the pointer up and get some 'inertia' and slam the mouse pointer against the edge of the screen then it will cross the border and move to the other monitor. It acts this way in both directions. It also acts this way even if I am dragging a window across the border. Doing it slow will cause the drag to stall once O get to the mouse pointer but if I drag quick it will go across. VERY odd... :confused:


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      Ray Cassick wrote:

      I have a matrix of 4 monitors.

      :omg: You lucky boy. :cool:

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        :confused: I just noticed this happening... I have a matrix of 4 monitors. 2 19" on the bottom and 2 17" on the top. I can move the mouse horizontally between the two 17" monitors as slow as I want with no problem. I can do the same vertically between the 19" and the 17" monitors. The problem comes in when tyring to move horizontally between the two 19" monitors on the bottom. If I move the mouse slowly (no real way to quantify what 'slow' really is here so it's just slow) the mouse pointer will NOT cross the border, BUT... If I back the pointer up and get some 'inertia' and slam the mouse pointer against the edge of the screen then it will cross the border and move to the other monitor. It acts this way in both directions. It also acts this way even if I am dragging a window across the border. Doing it slow will cause the drag to stall once O get to the mouse pointer but if I drag quick it will go across. VERY odd... :confused:


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        ...maybe... :)

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          :confused: I just noticed this happening... I have a matrix of 4 monitors. 2 19" on the bottom and 2 17" on the top. I can move the mouse horizontally between the two 17" monitors as slow as I want with no problem. I can do the same vertically between the 19" and the 17" monitors. The problem comes in when tyring to move horizontally between the two 19" monitors on the bottom. If I move the mouse slowly (no real way to quantify what 'slow' really is here so it's just slow) the mouse pointer will NOT cross the border, BUT... If I back the pointer up and get some 'inertia' and slam the mouse pointer against the edge of the screen then it will cross the border and move to the other monitor. It acts this way in both directions. It also acts this way even if I am dragging a window across the border. Doing it slow will cause the drag to stall once O get to the mouse pointer but if I drag quick it will go across. VERY odd... :confused:


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          Sand down any rough spots and high points on those edges of the monitors.:-D

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            :confused: I just noticed this happening... I have a matrix of 4 monitors. 2 19" on the bottom and 2 17" on the top. I can move the mouse horizontally between the two 17" monitors as slow as I want with no problem. I can do the same vertically between the 19" and the 17" monitors. The problem comes in when tyring to move horizontally between the two 19" monitors on the bottom. If I move the mouse slowly (no real way to quantify what 'slow' really is here so it's just slow) the mouse pointer will NOT cross the border, BUT... If I back the pointer up and get some 'inertia' and slam the mouse pointer against the edge of the screen then it will cross the border and move to the other monitor. It acts this way in both directions. It also acts this way even if I am dragging a window across the border. Doing it slow will cause the drag to stall once O get to the mouse pointer but if I drag quick it will go across. VERY odd... :confused:


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            Ray Cassick wrote:

            It acts this way in both directions.

            You really shouldn't get the escher montitor series... it is uphill both directions. :doh:

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              :confused: I just noticed this happening... I have a matrix of 4 monitors. 2 19" on the bottom and 2 17" on the top. I can move the mouse horizontally between the two 17" monitors as slow as I want with no problem. I can do the same vertically between the 19" and the 17" monitors. The problem comes in when tyring to move horizontally between the two 19" monitors on the bottom. If I move the mouse slowly (no real way to quantify what 'slow' really is here so it's just slow) the mouse pointer will NOT cross the border, BUT... If I back the pointer up and get some 'inertia' and slam the mouse pointer against the edge of the screen then it will cross the border and move to the other monitor. It acts this way in both directions. It also acts this way even if I am dragging a window across the border. Doing it slow will cause the drag to stall once O get to the mouse pointer but if I drag quick it will go across. VERY odd... :confused:


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              Ray Cassick wrote:

              VERY odd...

              Okay, getting serious now... which for me is hard (ouch, I think I broke something... oops there I go again). 1) what is your graphics card (or multiple cards)? 2) what software is merging the desktop? (windows or other desktop manager) 3) What other desktop assistants are running (nview, etc.) 4) what version of driver(s)? I have never had this particular problem, but there are issues merging desktops of different resolutions (say 1024x768 for one and 1280x1024 for another), especially in mixing many desktops. Uniformity is often the answer, unfortunately that doesn't always fit the native resolution of the LCDs.

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                ...maybe... :)

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                Optical :) I even changed mice just to be sure.


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                  Optical :) I even changed mice just to be sure.


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                  Well, in that case you may need Dogbert's $800.00 mouse pad upgrade... :-D And yes - someone has to scan in all Dilbert comics and OCR the heck out of 'em so we can find these things...

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                    Ray Cassick wrote:

                    VERY odd...

                    Okay, getting serious now... which for me is hard (ouch, I think I broke something... oops there I go again). 1) what is your graphics card (or multiple cards)? 2) what software is merging the desktop? (windows or other desktop manager) 3) What other desktop assistants are running (nview, etc.) 4) what version of driver(s)? I have never had this particular problem, but there are issues merging desktops of different resolutions (say 1024x768 for one and 1280x1024 for another), especially in mixing many desktops. Uniformity is often the answer, unfortunately that doesn't always fit the native resolution of the LCDs.

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                    1. I am running 2 NVIDIA Cards. 1 - 5200 and 1 - 5500. I have the two lower monitors running on one card and the to uppers on the others just to make sure that I was not splitting resolutions between cards. The two giving issues are the 1600 x 1200 and that is the native resolutions on both those monitors. They are also both the exact same brand monitor and are even in fact only a few numbers off in serial number so they were even made around the same time. 2) I am just using the native Windows screen manager. 3) Nothing else really running that manages the screen but I do have Yahoo widgets running all the time. 4) Not sure. I had to get new ones about a year ago when I went to 64 bit so they are not too awful old.

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                      :confused: I just noticed this happening... I have a matrix of 4 monitors. 2 19" on the bottom and 2 17" on the top. I can move the mouse horizontally between the two 17" monitors as slow as I want with no problem. I can do the same vertically between the 19" and the 17" monitors. The problem comes in when tyring to move horizontally between the two 19" monitors on the bottom. If I move the mouse slowly (no real way to quantify what 'slow' really is here so it's just slow) the mouse pointer will NOT cross the border, BUT... If I back the pointer up and get some 'inertia' and slam the mouse pointer against the edge of the screen then it will cross the border and move to the other monitor. It acts this way in both directions. It also acts this way even if I am dragging a window across the border. Doing it slow will cause the drag to stall once O get to the mouse pointer but if I drag quick it will go across. VERY odd... :confused:


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                      How far apart are the two monitors? I find that if the gap is more tha a few inches I need a decent run up to jump it, but if they are within a few millimetres it will cross relatively easily. Seriously though, as you are using an optical mouse, could there be a problem with the surface that happens to coincide with where your mouse normally is when sitting on the monitor border? Maybe a pattern on your mousemat, or something relfective?


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                        1. I am running 2 NVIDIA Cards. 1 - 5200 and 1 - 5500. I have the two lower monitors running on one card and the to uppers on the others just to make sure that I was not splitting resolutions between cards. The two giving issues are the 1600 x 1200 and that is the native resolutions on both those monitors. They are also both the exact same brand monitor and are even in fact only a few numbers off in serial number so they were even made around the same time. 2) I am just using the native Windows screen manager. 3) Nothing else really running that manages the screen but I do have Yahoo widgets running all the time. 4) Not sure. I had to get new ones about a year ago when I went to 64 bit so they are not too awful old.

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                        Nothing else really running that manages the screen

                        not even nView? with nVidia that is actually difficult. There was someone else who recommended a multi-monitor desktop software about 6+ months ago when I was talking about multiple monitors. Mine are on different machines, so I run Synergy. But there is another product that helps with multiple monitors on the same machine, I just don't recall its name (and so far google hasn't helped yet).

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                          1. I am running 2 NVIDIA Cards. 1 - 5200 and 1 - 5500. I have the two lower monitors running on one card and the to uppers on the others just to make sure that I was not splitting resolutions between cards. The two giving issues are the 1600 x 1200 and that is the native resolutions on both those monitors. They are also both the exact same brand monitor and are even in fact only a few numbers off in serial number so they were even made around the same time. 2) I am just using the native Windows screen manager. 3) Nothing else really running that manages the screen but I do have Yahoo widgets running all the time. 4) Not sure. I had to get new ones about a year ago when I went to 64 bit so they are not too awful old.

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                          Instead of google, I searched CP for synergy, found the threads mentioning it and other desktop monitors (synergy is for multiple computers interlinked). http://www.realtimesoft.com/ultramon/[^] maybe that would help?

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                            How far apart are the two monitors? I find that if the gap is more tha a few inches I need a decent run up to jump it, but if they are within a few millimetres it will cross relatively easily. Seriously though, as you are using an optical mouse, could there be a problem with the surface that happens to coincide with where your mouse normally is when sitting on the monitor border? Maybe a pattern on your mousemat, or something relfective?


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                            Maybe it would be better if I put a little ramp at the edge :) I just tried putting down a mono-colored piece of paper and using that as a mouse pad. No better. I usually just use my desktop though. It has a very fine dotted printing and is supposed to look like green sandstone. I might try booting up with nothing loaded and see what happens.


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                              Ray Cassick wrote:

                              VERY odd...

                              Okay, getting serious now... which for me is hard (ouch, I think I broke something... oops there I go again). 1) what is your graphics card (or multiple cards)? 2) what software is merging the desktop? (windows or other desktop manager) 3) What other desktop assistants are running (nview, etc.) 4) what version of driver(s)? I have never had this particular problem, but there are issues merging desktops of different resolutions (say 1024x768 for one and 1280x1024 for another), especially in mixing many desktops. Uniformity is often the answer, unfortunately that doesn't always fit the native resolution of the LCDs.

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                              I think you meant, "Please send all four here for immediate and intense diagnostics. Don't expect them back soon."

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                                :confused: I just noticed this happening... I have a matrix of 4 monitors. 2 19" on the bottom and 2 17" on the top. I can move the mouse horizontally between the two 17" monitors as slow as I want with no problem. I can do the same vertically between the 19" and the 17" monitors. The problem comes in when tyring to move horizontally between the two 19" monitors on the bottom. If I move the mouse slowly (no real way to quantify what 'slow' really is here so it's just slow) the mouse pointer will NOT cross the border, BUT... If I back the pointer up and get some 'inertia' and slam the mouse pointer against the edge of the screen then it will cross the border and move to the other monitor. It acts this way in both directions. It also acts this way even if I am dragging a window across the border. Doing it slow will cause the drag to stall once O get to the mouse pointer but if I drag quick it will go across. VERY odd... :confused:


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                                  Optical :) I even changed mice just to be sure.


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                                  Either border is mis adjusted....

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                                    :confused: I just noticed this happening... I have a matrix of 4 monitors. 2 19" on the bottom and 2 17" on the top. I can move the mouse horizontally between the two 17" monitors as slow as I want with no problem. I can do the same vertically between the 19" and the 17" monitors. The problem comes in when tyring to move horizontally between the two 19" monitors on the bottom. If I move the mouse slowly (no real way to quantify what 'slow' really is here so it's just slow) the mouse pointer will NOT cross the border, BUT... If I back the pointer up and get some 'inertia' and slam the mouse pointer against the edge of the screen then it will cross the border and move to the other monitor. It acts this way in both directions. It also acts this way even if I am dragging a window across the border. Doing it slow will cause the drag to stall once O get to the mouse pointer but if I drag quick it will go across. VERY odd... :confused:


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                                    Sounds like he mouse gets "caught" if it's within a few pixels of the border in question (mouse events don't cover every pixel, so with some speed, the mouse will never be in the catch area). I never had this, but there are some possibilities - a custom toolbar/tool windw that does funny things with mouse capture+position, or mouse rect? Probably something that is not multimon aware and tries to be helpful. Some multi monitor apps allow to define "no-cross" corners or borders. They are usually intented to let you "ram" the mouse in one of the corners even if there's an adjancted monitor. Flaky mouse add on utility


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                                      Ray Cassick wrote:

                                      Nothing else really running that manages the screen

                                      not even nView? with nVidia that is actually difficult. There was someone else who recommended a multi-monitor desktop software about 6+ months ago when I was talking about multiple monitors. Mine are on different machines, so I run Synergy. But there is another product that helps with multiple monitors on the same machine, I just don't recall its name (and so far google hasn't helped yet).

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                                      ultramon. With synergy, have you found a way to make it work with fullscreen apps? When I tried as soon as I mouse out of one it immediately minimized.

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