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  • F Fred_Smith

    They would get the best treatment available - which would be nowhere near any hospital you'd send yours to die in. I reckon mine would stand a better chance of sirvival than yours, whatever the type of cancer they had. And have a better quality of life in the meantime. If it was down to me, I'd have you all done for child cruelty, for giving your kids radiation therapy and chemo and sentencing them to life-imprisonment in some ghastly hospital ward or hospice while they're dying.

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    73Zeppelin
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    Fred_Smith wrote:

    They would get the best treatment available - which would be nowhere near any hospital you'd send yours to die in. I reckon mine would stand a better chance of sirvival than yours, whatever the type of cancer they had. And have a better quality of life in the meantime. If it was down to me, I'd have you all done for child cruelty, for giving your kids radiation therapy and chemo and sentencing them to life-imprisonment in some ghastly hospital ward or hospice while they're dying.

    You like to run-off at the mouth. You post alot of big words, but they're vacuous. I have an idea - why don't you go watch a terminal cancer patient die before you write this shit.

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      Fred_Smith wrote:

      I have no problem at all in insulting people like you. Don't give me the "I know what I'm talking about and you're just an ignorant fool" crap. Your work is a farce, except it's not evcen funny. It is sadistic crap. It is little short of evil - giving false hope to people while causing unnecessary suffering to animals on an immense scale. If you think I'm insulting you now, you ain't seen nothing.

      You can't insult me, so quit running your mouth. Instead of posting endless reams of your drivel on here, why don't you demonstrate you have something to contribute instead of ignorance. Ever visited a terminal cancer ward? No, you haven't. Especially a pediatric one. Why don't you go do that? While you're at it, why don't you also look at the available cancer treatments they use on animals too - you know, to save and respect life of not just people but animals too. I know you won't because I know that's not important to you. You're just a sadist who enjoys watching people, children and animals suffer.

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      I spent three days and nights without (hardly any) sleep watching my father die in a cancer ward, sh*thead, so f*** off and die. And no-one that supports vivisection has any right to accuse someone else of enjoying watching animals suffer. You, in your line of work, have caused or supported more suffering than I ever will in tem thousand lifetimes.

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        I can't help but notice that you didn't try to refute my point about alt-meds not actually doing anything.

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        Fine. I refute it.

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          I can't help but notice that you didn't try to refute my point about alt-meds not actually doing anything.

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          But they do! They have the placebo effect ... as an example Homeopathic[^] remedies are fantastic as long as you accept the bullshit :P

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            Fred_Smith wrote:

            They would get the best treatment available - which would be nowhere near any hospital you'd send yours to die in. I reckon mine would stand a better chance of sirvival than yours, whatever the type of cancer they had. And have a better quality of life in the meantime. If it was down to me, I'd have you all done for child cruelty, for giving your kids radiation therapy and chemo and sentencing them to life-imprisonment in some ghastly hospital ward or hospice while they're dying.

            You like to run-off at the mouth. You post alot of big words, but they're vacuous. I have an idea - why don't you go watch a terminal cancer patient die before you write this shit.

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            what makes you think I haven't, dick-head?

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            • F Fred_Smith

              They would get the best treatment available - which would be nowhere near any hospital you'd send yours to die in. I reckon mine would stand a better chance of sirvival than yours, whatever the type of cancer they had. And have a better quality of life in the meantime. If it was down to me, I'd have you all done for child cruelty, for giving your kids radiation therapy and chemo and sentencing them to life-imprisonment in some ghastly hospital ward or hospice while they're dying.

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              Fred_Smith wrote:

              I reckon mine would stand a better chance of sirvival than yours, whatever the type of cancer they had.

              So how would you treat Stage I Hodgkins Lymphoma that improves on a 5 year survival rate of 90-95% using conventional treatment?

              - F

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              • F Fred_Smith

                I spent three days and nights without (hardly any) sleep watching my father die in a cancer ward, sh*thead, so f*** off and die. And no-one that supports vivisection has any right to accuse someone else of enjoying watching animals suffer. You, in your line of work, have caused or supported more suffering than I ever will in tem thousand lifetimes.

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                Fred_Smith wrote:

                I spent three days and nights without (hardly any) sleep watching my father die in a cancer ward, sh*thead, so f*** off and die. And no-one that supports vivisection has any right to accuse someone else of enjoying watching animals suffer. You, in your line of work, have caused or supported more suffering than I ever will in tem thousand lifetimes.

                Removed for privacy... I also watched upwards of 50 other children die on the pediatric ward on which I was working. You're a first-class idiot.

                Fred_Smith wrote:

                sh*thead, so f*** off and die.

                There you go. That says it all about you, just like I said. -- modified at 12:23 Tuesday 9th October, 2007

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                • F Fred_Smith

                  what makes you think I haven't, dick-head?

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                  Fred_Smith wrote:

                  what makes you think I haven't, dick-head?

                  Because you're an idiot, that's what.

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                  • F Fred_Smith

                    I spent three days and nights without (hardly any) sleep watching my father die in a cancer ward, sh*thead, so f*** off and die. And no-one that supports vivisection has any right to accuse someone else of enjoying watching animals suffer. You, in your line of work, have caused or supported more suffering than I ever will in tem thousand lifetimes.

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                    Fred_Smith wrote:

                    I spent three days and nights without (hardly any) sleep watching my father die in a cancer ward, sh*thead, so f*** off and die.

                    And yet you still seek to deny others the benefits of cancer reasearch. You truly are a monster.

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                      Fred_Smith wrote:

                      I spent three days and nights without (hardly any) sleep watching my father die in a cancer ward, sh*thead, so f*** off and die. And no-one that supports vivisection has any right to accuse someone else of enjoying watching animals suffer. You, in your line of work, have caused or supported more suffering than I ever will in tem thousand lifetimes.

                      Removed for privacy... I also watched upwards of 50 other children die on the pediatric ward on which I was working. You're a first-class idiot.

                      Fred_Smith wrote:

                      sh*thead, so f*** off and die.

                      There you go. That says it all about you, just like I said. -- modified at 12:23 Tuesday 9th October, 2007

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                      Is it just me, or has the general caliber of individuals here declined sharply in recent months?


                      Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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                        Is it just me, or has the general caliber of individuals here declined sharply in recent months?


                        Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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                        Red Stateler wrote:

                        Is it just me, or has the general caliber of individuals here declined sharply in recent months?

                        This one is a real winner. I like his sob story about his 3 days and nights with his father. What did he think that was, some kind of trump card he had that he's the only one that ever watched a loved one die? He's a repugnant individual. He's even worse than that ChrisMcCall guy... What an unbelievable lack of morality these two exhibit.

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                          Fred_Smith wrote:

                          I spent three days and nights without (hardly any) sleep watching my father die in a cancer ward, sh*thead, so f*** off and die. And no-one that supports vivisection has any right to accuse someone else of enjoying watching animals suffer. You, in your line of work, have caused or supported more suffering than I ever will in tem thousand lifetimes.

                          Removed for privacy... I also watched upwards of 50 other children die on the pediatric ward on which I was working. You're a first-class idiot.

                          Fred_Smith wrote:

                          sh*thead, so f*** off and die.

                          There you go. That says it all about you, just like I said. -- modified at 12:23 Tuesday 9th October, 2007

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                          73Zeppelin wrote:

                          I also watched upwards of 50 other children die on the pediatric ward on which I was working

                          Didn't save many then, did you, with your wonderful animal-tested drugs? And wouldn't their final hours have been better at home, in familiar surroundings, instead of a sterile hospital?

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                            Fred_Smith wrote:

                            I spent three days and nights without (hardly any) sleep watching my father die in a cancer ward, sh*thead, so f*** off and die.

                            And yet you still seek to deny others the benefits of cancer reasearch. You truly are a monster.

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                            What benefits? And at what price?

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                              73Zeppelin wrote:

                              I also watched upwards of 50 other children die on the pediatric ward on which I was working

                              Didn't save many then, did you, with your wonderful animal-tested drugs? And wouldn't their final hours have been better at home, in familiar surroundings, instead of a sterile hospital?

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                              Fred_Smith wrote:

                              Didn't save many then, did you, with your wonderful animal-tested drugs? And wouldn't their final hours have been better at home, in familiar surroundings, instead of a sterile hospital?

                              What do you care, sociopath?

                              "sh*thead ... f*** off and die" (Fred_Smith - animal lover)

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                                Fred_Smith wrote:

                                what makes you think I haven't, dick-head?

                                Because you're an idiot, that's what.

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                                So idiots don't got to cancer wards? With logic like that, no wonder you think vivisection is justifiable. If I am an idiot, you are downright retarded.

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                                  Fred_Smith wrote:

                                  I reckon mine would stand a better chance of sirvival than yours, whatever the type of cancer they had.

                                  So how would you treat Stage I Hodgkins Lymphoma that improves on a 5 year survival rate of 90-95% using conventional treatment?

                                  - F

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                                  I would do what anyone would: find someone that knows how to treat it in a manner that they find acceptable.

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                                  • F Fred_Smith

                                    So idiots don't got to cancer wards? With logic like that, no wonder you think vivisection is justifiable. If I am an idiot, you are downright retarded.

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                                    Fred_Smith wrote:

                                    So idiots don't got to cancer wards? With logic like that, no wonder you think vivisection is justifiable. If I am an idiot, you are downright retarded.

                                    Don't worry - despite your deplorable and disturbing lack of morality, my colleagues (the ones you despise so much) will still treat you and treat you with respect. The medical profession is dedicated to saving lives, not hoping for people to die which seems to be your profession. Sociopath.

                                    "sh*thead ... f*** off and die" (Fred_Smith - animal lover)

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                                      Red Stateler wrote:

                                      Is it just me, or has the general caliber of individuals here declined sharply in recent months?

                                      This one is a real winner. I like his sob story about his 3 days and nights with his father. What did he think that was, some kind of trump card he had that he's the only one that ever watched a loved one die? He's a repugnant individual. He's even worse than that ChrisMcCall guy... What an unbelievable lack of morality these two exhibit.

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                                      73Zeppelin wrote:

                                      . What did he think that was, some kind of trump card he had that he's the only one that ever watched a loved one die?

                                      I dind't offer it: You asked, so I told you. So now f*** off.

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                                      • F Fred_Smith

                                        I would do what anyone would: find someone that knows how to treat it in a manner that they find acceptable.

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                                        Fred_Smith wrote:

                                        I would do what anyone would: find someone that knows how to treat it in a manner that they find acceptable.

                                        Bzzt. Too vague to be meaningful. You made a pretty specific claim: that no matter what kind of cancer it was, you think that your choice of treatment for your kid with hodgkin's lymphoma would do better than my choice of treatment. So what's your treatment? What are the stats on it? Is there a non animal-testing, non-invasive option that does better for Stage I Hodgkin's Lymphoma than a 90% 5yr survival rate?

                                        - F

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                                          Fred_Smith wrote:

                                          Didn't save many then, did you, with your wonderful animal-tested drugs? And wouldn't their final hours have been better at home, in familiar surroundings, instead of a sterile hospital?

                                          What do you care, sociopath?

                                          "sh*thead ... f*** off and die" (Fred_Smith - animal lover)

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                                          What have I said that makes you think I don't care? I just disagree - passionately - with your methods of finding cures for disease. You are insisting that your method is the only way to stop suffering, and it quite patently isn't - in fact, I believe it causes more than it solves, and that is one argument I have against it. So how does that make me a sociopath?

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