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  • M Matthew Faithfull

    Delightful. I'm so looking forward to your explanation of how to achieve 'complete control of the media' without a conspiracy :laugh: and calling the UKs most senior police officer a crazy son of b**ch is splendid. I don't suppose his public statement yesterday of the 'greatly increased number of conspiracies' he now believes in has reached your part of the world yet. You're in well over your head already you may as well just keep on digging. :laugh:

    Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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    Matthew Faithfull wrote:

    Delightful. I'm so looking forward to your explanation of how to achieve 'complete control of the media' without a conspiracy

    Leftists are simply, for whatever reason (perhaps because it's one of Marx's commandments), natural drawn to media outlets. To confirm that statement, all you have to do is pick up the local (community) paper in whatever town you're in. It's inevitably filled with pierced chubby chicks ranting about how the establishment is responsible for them not being pretty. Your madness stems from your insistence that the world follow a particular order. That probably stems from some sort of innate insecurity and the psychological need for the randomness and chaos in the world to be reduced to something simpler. Left-wing political congruity among media outlets is no more surprising than right-wing political congruity among Christians and neither requires a secret shrouded group chanting around a round table in a dark dungeon.

    Matthew Faithfull wrote:

    and calling the UKs most senior police officer a crazy son of b**ch is splendid. I don't suppose his public statement yesterday of the 'greatly increased number of conspiracies' he now believes in has reached your part of the world yet.

    Well that depends. Is he talking about "conspiracy to commit murder" (which is common) or is he talking about your conspiracies (e.g. the illuminati)? If he was referring to the former, then he's sensible. If he's referring to the latter, then he would be a crazy son of a b**tch.


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      Red Stateler wrote:

      completely control the media

      Red Stateler wrote:

      political congruity does not denote conspiracy.

      :laugh::laugh::laugh: Resistance is futile... you will be assimilated. You are one tweaked puppy.

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      Matthew Faithful is suggesting a secret organization that controls the media to force it into being liberal. That is, of course, crazy. I'm saying (quite sanely) that it's just the result of liberals being attracted to the media.


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        Matthew Faithful is suggesting a secret organization that controls the media to force it into being liberal. That is, of course, crazy. I'm saying (quite sanely) that it's just the result of liberals being attracted to the media.


        Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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        Talking of the media, would it be considered as an unfair advantage for Fred Thompson to exploit his Hollywood connections in respect of his Fred 08 campaign.

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          Talking of the media, would it be considered as an unfair advantage for Fred Thompson to exploit his Hollywood connections in respect of his Fred 08 campaign.

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          Richard A. Abbott wrote:

          Talking of the media, would it be considered as an unfair advantage for Fred Thompson to exploit his Hollywood connections in respect of his Fred 08 campaign.

          I don't know, but everyone in Hollywood is supporting either Hillary or Obama anyway. Oh no!!! It must be a conspiracy!


          Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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            Talking of the media, would it be considered as an unfair advantage for Fred Thompson to exploit his Hollywood connections in respect of his Fred 08 campaign.

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            Hell no! He's already got operatives stiffening up chads in Florida.

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              Richard A. Abbott wrote:

              Talking of the media, would it be considered as an unfair advantage for Fred Thompson to exploit his Hollywood connections in respect of his Fred 08 campaign.

              I don't know, but everyone in Hollywood is supporting either Hillary or Obama anyway. Oh no!!! It must be a conspiracy!


              Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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              Red Stateler wrote:

              Oh no!!! It must be a conspiracy!

              Have to get Matthew to look into that :)

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                Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                Delightful. I'm so looking forward to your explanation of how to achieve 'complete control of the media' without a conspiracy

                Leftists are simply, for whatever reason (perhaps because it's one of Marx's commandments), natural drawn to media outlets. To confirm that statement, all you have to do is pick up the local (community) paper in whatever town you're in. It's inevitably filled with pierced chubby chicks ranting about how the establishment is responsible for them not being pretty. Your madness stems from your insistence that the world follow a particular order. That probably stems from some sort of innate insecurity and the psychological need for the randomness and chaos in the world to be reduced to something simpler. Left-wing political congruity among media outlets is no more surprising than right-wing political congruity among Christians and neither requires a secret shrouded group chanting around a round table in a dark dungeon.

                Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                and calling the UKs most senior police officer a crazy son of b**ch is splendid. I don't suppose his public statement yesterday of the 'greatly increased number of conspiracies' he now believes in has reached your part of the world yet.

                Well that depends. Is he talking about "conspiracy to commit murder" (which is common) or is he talking about your conspiracies (e.g. the illuminati)? If he was referring to the former, then he's sensible. If he's referring to the latter, then he would be a crazy son of a b**tch.


                Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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                Red Stateler wrote:

                (perhaps because it's one of Marx's commandments),

                I love it. Engage even a few brain cells and you will realise that it's only people who are anti-left who even remember the existence of Marx's 'commandments' these days. :laugh:

                Red Stateler wrote:

                Your madness stems from your insistence that the world follow a particular order

                Hmm my madness is that I believe in reason, order and cause and effect. Madness indeed! :laugh:

                Red Stateler wrote:

                Left-wing political congruity among media outlets is no more surprising than right-wing political congruity among Christians

                Oh it just gets better, Christians Socialists all over Europe are rolling in the isles.

                Red Stateler wrote:

                is he talking about your conspiracies (e.g. the illuminati)?

                Illuminati? An organisation effectively eliminated by mass state assasination in Bavaria several hundred years ago, exactly how mad are you? No on second thoughts I don't want to know. So much irony I can hardly type. Before I die laughing I should probably try to explain how the whole fake existence in your warped mind of the false left-right dichotomy is a result of the 'media congruity' you so hilariously attribute to its own fictional creation. How that congruity is generated largely by the employement in the media of dupes just like you, Ann C comes to mind, who perpetuate the fiction on behalf of their employers who draw straws to see who will play 'leftist' and who will play 'rightist' this year while they sit around their comfortably appointed round tables in their private clubs joking about how stupid the sheep are and how easy it is to take them in. Yes it's you they're laughing at and it is the only thing I have in common with them. Once again thanks to you I'll be giggling all the way home :laugh:

                Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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                  Matthew Faithful is suggesting a secret organization that controls the media to force it into being liberal. That is, of course, crazy. I'm saying (quite sanely) that it's just the result of liberals being attracted to the media.


                  Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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                  Red Stateler wrote:

                  I'm saying (quite sanely) that it's just the result of liberals being attracted to the media.

                  Right because conservatives are not, which is why Bush hired a FOX journalist as his White House Press Secretary. Here's a tip, using a bigger shovel doesn't help you stop digging a hole.

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                    Matthew Faithful is suggesting a secret organization that controls the media to force it into being liberal. That is, of course, crazy. I'm saying (quite sanely) that it's just the result of liberals being attracted to the media.


                    Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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                    If you mean the half a dozen men who own a controlling interest in 80% of it (US), yes. Only it's not secret just beyond your pathetic ability to believe or comprehend and 'force it into being liberal' is only half of their work. The other half being forcing it into being conservative. When I tell you that those men and several dozen other smaller players are members of the same exclusive club which meets in secret with the likes of Hillary Clinton and Henry Kissenger you'll freak out and start talking tin foil hats. If you were capable of accessing reality you'd check and find that it's true. "There is no such thing as an independent press in America, unless it is in the country towns. You know it and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print." "I am paid $150.00 a week for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things. If I should permit honest opinions to be printed in one issue of my paper, like Othello, before twenty-four hours, my occupation would be gone." "The business of the New York journalist is to destroy truth; to lie outright; to pervert; to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon; to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. We are the tools and vessels for rich men behind the scenes. We are intellectual prostitutes." John Swinton, editor of the New York Tribune.

                    Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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                      Red Stateler wrote:

                      Oh no!!! It must be a conspiracy!

                      Have to get Matthew to look into that :)

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                      If you insist. Meanwhile chew on these if you will... "We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." David Rockefeller, Baden-Baden, Germany 1991 "We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order." - David Rockefeller

                      Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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                        Red Stateler wrote:

                        (perhaps because it's one of Marx's commandments),

                        I love it. Engage even a few brain cells and you will realise that it's only people who are anti-left who even remember the existence of Marx's 'commandments' these days. :laugh:

                        Red Stateler wrote:

                        Your madness stems from your insistence that the world follow a particular order

                        Hmm my madness is that I believe in reason, order and cause and effect. Madness indeed! :laugh:

                        Red Stateler wrote:

                        Left-wing political congruity among media outlets is no more surprising than right-wing political congruity among Christians

                        Oh it just gets better, Christians Socialists all over Europe are rolling in the isles.

                        Red Stateler wrote:

                        is he talking about your conspiracies (e.g. the illuminati)?

                        Illuminati? An organisation effectively eliminated by mass state assasination in Bavaria several hundred years ago, exactly how mad are you? No on second thoughts I don't want to know. So much irony I can hardly type. Before I die laughing I should probably try to explain how the whole fake existence in your warped mind of the false left-right dichotomy is a result of the 'media congruity' you so hilariously attribute to its own fictional creation. How that congruity is generated largely by the employement in the media of dupes just like you, Ann C comes to mind, who perpetuate the fiction on behalf of their employers who draw straws to see who will play 'leftist' and who will play 'rightist' this year while they sit around their comfortably appointed round tables in their private clubs joking about how stupid the sheep are and how easy it is to take them in. Yes it's you they're laughing at and it is the only thing I have in common with them. Once again thanks to you I'll be giggling all the way home :laugh:

                        Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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                        Allow me to elaborate[^] on your madness.

                        Indicators of Delusion:

                        1. The patient expresses an idea or belief with unusual persistence or force.
                        2. That idea appears to exert an undue influence on his or her life, and the way of
                          life is often altered to an inexplicable extent.
                        3. Despite his profound conviction, there is often a quality of secretiveness or
                          suspicion when the patient is questioned about it.
                        4. The individual tends to be humorless and oversensitive, especially about the belief.
                        5. There is a quality of centrality: no matter how unlikely it is that these strange
                          things are happening to him, the patient accepts them relatively unquestioningly.
                        6. An attempt to contradict the belief is likely to arouse an inappropriately strong
                          emotional reaction, often with irritability and hostility.
                        7. The belief is, at the least, unlikely.
                        8. The patient is emotionally over-invested in the idea and it overwhelms other
                          elements of his psyche (psychology).
                        9. The delusion, if acted out, often leads to behaviors which are abnormal and/or out
                          of character, although perhaps understandable in the light of the delusional beliefs.
                        10. Individuals who know the patient will observe that his belief and behavior are
                          uncharacteristic and alien.

                        Features:

                        1. It is a primary disorder.
                        2. It is a stable disorder characterized by the presence of delusions to which the
                          patient clings with extraordinary tenacity.
                        3. The illness is chronic and frequently lifelong.
                        4. The delusions are logically constructed and internally consistent.
                        5. The delusions do not interfere with general logical reasoning (although within the
                          delusional system the logic is perverted) and there is usually no general disturbance
                          of behavior. If disturbed behavior does occur, it is directly related to the delusional
                          beliefs.
                        6. The individual experiences a heightened sense of self-reference. Events which, to
                          others, are nonsignificant are of enormous significance to him or her, and the
                          atmosphere surrounding the delusions is highly charged.

                        Types:

                        Persecutory Type: delusion that the person (or someone to whom the person is close) is
                        being malevolently treated in some way.

                        Yup...That's you alright.


                        Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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                        • M Matthew Faithfull

                          If you insist. Meanwhile chew on these if you will... "We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." David Rockefeller, Baden-Baden, Germany 1991 "We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order." - David Rockefeller

                          Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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                          Did you not see the :) in my response to Red. Perhaps I should have also used the Joke image instead of the general comment image in the subject. Lighten-up Matthew .

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                            If you mean the half a dozen men who own a controlling interest in 80% of it (US), yes. Only it's not secret just beyond your pathetic ability to believe or comprehend and 'force it into being liberal' is only half of their work. The other half being forcing it into being conservative. When I tell you that those men and several dozen other smaller players are members of the same exclusive club which meets in secret with the likes of Hillary Clinton and Henry Kissenger you'll freak out and start talking tin foil hats. If you were capable of accessing reality you'd check and find that it's true. "There is no such thing as an independent press in America, unless it is in the country towns. You know it and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print." "I am paid $150.00 a week for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things. If I should permit honest opinions to be printed in one issue of my paper, like Othello, before twenty-four hours, my occupation would be gone." "The business of the New York journalist is to destroy truth; to lie outright; to pervert; to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon; to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. We are the tools and vessels for rich men behind the scenes. We are intellectual prostitutes." John Swinton, editor of the New York Tribune.

                            Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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                            Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                            If you mean the half a dozen men who own a controlling interest in 80% of it

                            Ummmm...I can think of more than half a dozen media barons off the top of my head.


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                              Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                              If you mean the half a dozen men who own a controlling interest in 80% of it

                              Ummmm...I can think of more than half a dozen media barons off the top of my head.


                              Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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                              Exactly, way to respond directly to the previous post... you really showed him and proved your point of view. U DA MAN!

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                                Exactly, way to respond directly to the previous post... you really showed him and proved your point of view. U DA MAN!

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                                led mike wrote:

                                U DA MAN

                                Well....Yeah.


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                                  link[^]

                                  The ruckus over the Rush Limbaugh "phony soldiers" statement is dying down. It
                                  ought not to. There is a huge story here.
                                  ...
                                  Less than two minutes after uttering the words "phony soldiers," Limbaugh elaborated on
                                  the subject, explaining exactly what he meant by the term. He named one Jesse Macbeth
                                  as an example of a phony soldier. Macbeth had become an overnight darling of the far
                                  left, a self-described Iraq war veteran and Purple Heart recipient who posted a YouTube
                                  video denouncing American military atrocities he'd witnessed.

                                  Except he was never awarded a Purple Heart. He was never in Iraq. In fact, he was never
                                  in the military, period. He was tossed out of boot camp after four months. Macbeth is
                                  now in prison serving a five-month term for falsifying Army records and applying
                                  falsely for veterans' benefits. Limbaugh was right.
                                  ...
                                  So the left returned with another charge: Limbaugh had used the plural, "phony
                                  soldiers," therefore Limbaugh's sole example — Macbeth — was inadequate. So are there
                                  any other "phony soldiers" out there? Jeffrey Sullivan, the U.S. attorney for the
                                  Western District of Washington, thinks so. Besides prosecuting Macbeth, he's prosecuted
                                  another five "phony soldiers." Jim O'Neill, the assistant inspector general for
                                  investigations at the Veterans Administration, confirms that the federal government is
                                  presently conducting another 60 such "stolen valor" cases. Rush was right, in
                                  spades.

                                  The left must be entirely frustrated that they no longer completely control the media. It makes lies like this so difficult to gain traction.


                                  Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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                                  This [^] explains things nicely. The left is going to try to eliminate anyone capable of injecting the truth about them into the national conscious, so that they can inject as many uncontested lies as possible about the opposition. led Mike, Matthew, et al, are perfect examples of the end result. Hillary is a socialist pure and simple and she is a leader of a party best understood as Marxist. And that is all the debate should really be all about. The is nothing more complex about it than that. The right is generally honest about who and what they are and the principles they stand for. All the significant lies are coming from the left.

                                  The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hypocrisy is no morality at all.

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                                    This [^] explains things nicely. The left is going to try to eliminate anyone capable of injecting the truth about them into the national conscious, so that they can inject as many uncontested lies as possible about the opposition. led Mike, Matthew, et al, are perfect examples of the end result. Hillary is a socialist pure and simple and she is a leader of a party best understood as Marxist. And that is all the debate should really be all about. The is nothing more complex about it than that. The right is generally honest about who and what they are and the principles they stand for. All the significant lies are coming from the left.

                                    The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hypocrisy is no morality at all.

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                                    "the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom -- Lucifer.” You're going to come with Religious references? Really? After God sent his Son to preach tolerance and forgiveness, which you completely oppose, and you want to go with Religious references to prove your point of view? You sure about that?

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                                      "the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom -- Lucifer.” You're going to come with Religious references? Really? After God sent his Son to preach tolerance and forgiveness, which you completely oppose, and you want to go with Religious references to prove your point of view? You sure about that?

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                                      led mike wrote:

                                      After God sent his Son to preach tolerance and forgiveness, which you completely oppose, and you want to go with Religious references to prove your point of view?

                                      When did Jesus preach about tolerance? :confused:


                                      Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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                                        This [^] explains things nicely. The left is going to try to eliminate anyone capable of injecting the truth about them into the national conscious, so that they can inject as many uncontested lies as possible about the opposition. led Mike, Matthew, et al, are perfect examples of the end result. Hillary is a socialist pure and simple and she is a leader of a party best understood as Marxist. And that is all the debate should really be all about. The is nothing more complex about it than that. The right is generally honest about who and what they are and the principles they stand for. All the significant lies are coming from the left.

                                        The only conspiracies that concern me are the ones I am completely unaware of. By the time I find out about it, its probably a done deal. Nothing in the entire universe is more useless than morality without authority. A morality free of hypocrisy is no morality at all.

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                                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                                        The right is generally honest about who and what they are and the principles they stand for.

                                        Yeah, a "wide stance".

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                                          led mike wrote:

                                          After God sent his Son to preach tolerance and forgiveness, which you completely oppose, and you want to go with Religious references to prove your point of view?

                                          When did Jesus preach about tolerance? :confused:


                                          Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall

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                                          Red Stateler wrote:

                                          When did Jesus preach about tolerance?

                                          Oh I dunno.. that whole "cast the first stone" thing. Oh, and washing the leper's feet.


                                          The early bird who catches the worm works for someone who comes in late and owns the worm farm. -- Travis McGee

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