British Teeth are Pretty
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No. you missed the point, the pseudo left wing Labour leadership have conned the genuine but crazy left which they despise by going along with an insanely PC policy because it suits their crypto fascist agenda. They want to privatise the NHS but can't admit to wanting to do so. They have to appear to be reluctantly giving in to the public opinion they have covertly engineered. Privatisation is not 'authoritarian' but persuing the opposite policy from your stated policy is a necessary part of a one-party totalitarian state that appears to have two parties. Totalitarian because it negates democracy by replacing it with a false choice between two parties who's apparently opposed policies will achieve the same results in the medium to long term, e.g. privatisation of the NHS, starting with all the bits that can easily make a profit.
Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.
Matthew Faithfull wrote:
Totalitarian because it negates democracy by replacing it with a false choice between two parties who's apparently opposed policies will achieve the same results in the medium to long term, e.g. privatisation of the NHS, starting with all the bits that can easily make a profit.
Dude...You lost the election. Let it go.
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
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Matthew Faithfull wrote:
Totalitarian because it negates democracy by replacing it with a false choice between two parties who's apparently opposed policies will achieve the same results in the medium to long term, e.g. privatisation of the NHS, starting with all the bits that can easily make a profit.
Dude...You lost the election. Let it go.
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
Dude...Politics is a long game.:)
Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.
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Dude...Politics is a long game.:)
Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.
Dude...Not long enough for your sake.
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
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Falling numbers of state dentists in England has led to some people taking extreme
measures, including extracting their own teeth, according to a new study released
Monday.State dentists? Extracting their own teeth? This is so easy that I don't even know where to go with this.
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
At least we have dentists: the story is a little misleading in that she could have opted for treatment at a dental teaching hospital or paid to go private (it is really not that expensive here). My family long ago gave up any pretence, however, at national health dentists and have been private for a long time. On another note British teeth are not quite like Mike Myers would have you believe: I had braces as a youngster (a long time ago) and none of my kids has a single filling and all have straight white teeth. I do know of many in the US who have no access to dental care at all so pot, kettle and black to you.
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At least we have dentists: the story is a little misleading in that she could have opted for treatment at a dental teaching hospital or paid to go private (it is really not that expensive here). My family long ago gave up any pretence, however, at national health dentists and have been private for a long time. On another note British teeth are not quite like Mike Myers would have you believe: I had braces as a youngster (a long time ago) and none of my kids has a single filling and all have straight white teeth. I do know of many in the US who have no access to dental care at all so pot, kettle and black to you.
digital man wrote:
I do know of many in the US who have no access to dental care at all so pot, kettle and black to you.
Really? There's a dentist around every corner. Do these people you "know" of live in the moutains?
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
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Falling numbers of state dentists in England has led to some people taking extreme
measures, including extracting their own teeth, according to a new study released
Monday.State dentists? Extracting their own teeth? This is so easy that I don't even know where to go with this.
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
Dentistry is expensive. But if you are a child, or perhaps unemployed or indeed are receiving some other state benefit such as child benefit, or you are pregnant or recently had a live birth, or you are a Pensioner, you have a statutory right to be seen by a dentist and have work done without costs to you as a claimant of some qualifying benefit. The problem is that dentistry practices, like good capitalists, want to earn as much money as possible. The British National Health Service publishes a price list to dentists stating what the maximum the state will pay per type of treatment. This price list is somewhat below what dentists could get by offering a "private" service. Consequently, the number of dentists who perform NHS services has fallen and this has an adverse effect upon the localized populations. As such, in areas where good HNS dental services is lacking, people do indeed take the solution to their dental problems into their own hands. And if some non-specific urgent/vital dental treatment is required by any person, irrespective if the do or do not have a registered dentist, arrangements are in place that will afford you private dental services at taxpayers expense. Thus the situation that recently occurred in America where a boy child had to die because the family could not afford insurance and apparently did not qualify for any USA state sponsored dentistry.
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Dentistry is expensive. But if you are a child, or perhaps unemployed or indeed are receiving some other state benefit such as child benefit, or you are pregnant or recently had a live birth, or you are a Pensioner, you have a statutory right to be seen by a dentist and have work done without costs to you as a claimant of some qualifying benefit. The problem is that dentistry practices, like good capitalists, want to earn as much money as possible. The British National Health Service publishes a price list to dentists stating what the maximum the state will pay per type of treatment. This price list is somewhat below what dentists could get by offering a "private" service. Consequently, the number of dentists who perform NHS services has fallen and this has an adverse effect upon the localized populations. As such, in areas where good HNS dental services is lacking, people do indeed take the solution to their dental problems into their own hands. And if some non-specific urgent/vital dental treatment is required by any person, irrespective if the do or do not have a registered dentist, arrangements are in place that will afford you private dental services at taxpayers expense. Thus the situation that recently occurred in America where a boy child had to die because the family could not afford insurance and apparently did not qualify for any USA state sponsored dentistry.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
The problem is that dentistry practices, like good capitalists, want to earn as much money as possible.
now isn't that the over arching problems with socialist approaches? capitalism is a natural state.
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
The problem is that dentistry practices, like good capitalists, want to earn as much money as possible.
now isn't that the over arching problems with socialist approaches? capitalism is a natural state.
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Dentistry is expensive. But if you are a child, or perhaps unemployed or indeed are receiving some other state benefit such as child benefit, or you are pregnant or recently had a live birth, or you are a Pensioner, you have a statutory right to be seen by a dentist and have work done without costs to you as a claimant of some qualifying benefit. The problem is that dentistry practices, like good capitalists, want to earn as much money as possible. The British National Health Service publishes a price list to dentists stating what the maximum the state will pay per type of treatment. This price list is somewhat below what dentists could get by offering a "private" service. Consequently, the number of dentists who perform NHS services has fallen and this has an adverse effect upon the localized populations. As such, in areas where good HNS dental services is lacking, people do indeed take the solution to their dental problems into their own hands. And if some non-specific urgent/vital dental treatment is required by any person, irrespective if the do or do not have a registered dentist, arrangements are in place that will afford you private dental services at taxpayers expense. Thus the situation that recently occurred in America where a boy child had to die because the family could not afford insurance and apparently did not qualify for any USA state sponsored dentistry.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
The problem is that dentistry practices, like good capitalists, want to earn as much money as possible.
Hmmmm...Yes, I can see how this is a problem. The corrupt and selfish bourgeois are obviously exploiting the underclasses. Wait...Where have I heard this before?
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Thus the situation that recently occurred in America where a boy child had to die because the family could not afford insurance and apparently did not qualify for any USA state sponsored dentistry.
A boy died because he couldn't get a dentist? :~ :rolleyes:
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
The problem is that dentistry practices, like good capitalists, want to earn as much money as possible.
Hmmmm...Yes, I can see how this is a problem. The corrupt and selfish bourgeois are obviously exploiting the underclasses. Wait...Where have I heard this before?
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Thus the situation that recently occurred in America where a boy child had to die because the family could not afford insurance and apparently did not qualify for any USA state sponsored dentistry.
A boy died because he couldn't get a dentist? :~ :rolleyes:
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
Red Stateler wrote:
Hmmmm...Yes, I can see how this is a problem. The corrupt and selfish bourgeois are obviously exploiting the underclasses. Wait...Where have I heard this before?
Chavez, Castro, Che...
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
The problem is that dentistry practices, like good capitalists, want to earn as much money as possible.
Hmmmm...Yes, I can see how this is a problem. The corrupt and selfish bourgeois are obviously exploiting the underclasses. Wait...Where have I heard this before?
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Thus the situation that recently occurred in America where a boy child had to die because the family could not afford insurance and apparently did not qualify for any USA state sponsored dentistry.
A boy died because he couldn't get a dentist? :~ :rolleyes:
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
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Red Stateler wrote:
A boy died because he couldn't get a dentist?
Yes, as reported here ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7018057.stm[^]
Well that's an intersting bit of propaganda. That would fall under "neglect". An abscess is, based on my understanding, extremely painful. Also, dentists are relatively inexpensive (a cleaning might run a bit above $100) and typically offer payment plans. It might have cost several hundred dollars for those neglectful parents to have a tooth pulled. And if health care wasn't available to them, how did he get immediate emergency surgery? What I find absolutely lame about these Michael Moorian approaches to these sorts of debates (and it's odd that your "mainstream" media would take this approach) is that they magnify carnival-like freak incidents (even saying "This story is not a one-off"), leave out the details (namely that she could have taken her kid to the dentist using medicaid if she weren't so neglectful) and portray them as the norm. Note that the story says "For the poorest there is some free treatment, called Medicaid. But not all dentists or doctors accept Medicaid patients, and Alyce Driver could not afford to pay to have Deamonte's tooth extracted". OK, so not all dentists take medicare? So she would have had to drive another 2 miles to find one that did? Frankly this sort of propaganda in its purest form is nothing short of repulsive. This is simply a case of a mother neglecting her child, but the BBC runs it as though its the state of America. As you folks say: bollocks.
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
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Well that's an intersting bit of propaganda. That would fall under "neglect". An abscess is, based on my understanding, extremely painful. Also, dentists are relatively inexpensive (a cleaning might run a bit above $100) and typically offer payment plans. It might have cost several hundred dollars for those neglectful parents to have a tooth pulled. And if health care wasn't available to them, how did he get immediate emergency surgery? What I find absolutely lame about these Michael Moorian approaches to these sorts of debates (and it's odd that your "mainstream" media would take this approach) is that they magnify carnival-like freak incidents (even saying "This story is not a one-off"), leave out the details (namely that she could have taken her kid to the dentist using medicaid if she weren't so neglectful) and portray them as the norm. Note that the story says "For the poorest there is some free treatment, called Medicaid. But not all dentists or doctors accept Medicaid patients, and Alyce Driver could not afford to pay to have Deamonte's tooth extracted". OK, so not all dentists take medicare? So she would have had to drive another 2 miles to find one that did? Frankly this sort of propaganda in its purest form is nothing short of repulsive. This is simply a case of a mother neglecting her child, but the BBC runs it as though its the state of America. As you folks say: bollocks.
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
Having never visited the USA, I have no personal experiences of your healthcare regime. I can only get a feel of what happens there when it is reported on CNN or BBC or similar such news gathering organisation. Perhaps there is too much propaganda from both sides of "the pond" so truth may not always be clearly visible. However, the mother of date child who died is probably guilty of both abuse and neglect. A life is always worth more than a few dollars, even if the mother had to go without an evening meal from time to time to pay for such treatment.
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Having never visited the USA, I have no personal experiences of your healthcare regime. I can only get a feel of what happens there when it is reported on CNN or BBC or similar such news gathering organisation. Perhaps there is too much propaganda from both sides of "the pond" so truth may not always be clearly visible. However, the mother of date child who died is probably guilty of both abuse and neglect. A life is always worth more than a few dollars, even if the mother had to go without an evening meal from time to time to pay for such treatment.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Having never visited the USA, I have no personal experiences of your healthcare regime. I can only get a feel of what happens there when it is reported on CNN or BBC or similar such news gathering organisation. Perhaps there is too much propaganda from both sides of "the pond" so truth may not always be clearly visible.
Well that story in particular is pure propaganda and I'm surprised it's passed off as "news". Freak accidents happen, but that certainly is not the norm and yet they take the time to portray it as such. One clue is always the "47 million uninsured" figure. That is inaccurate because about 2/3 of those are transitory (in other words, they're in between jobs and therefore in between insruance coverage). Of the remainder, most are employed middle class citizens in their twenties who choose not to have insurance in order to save money (which can be a prudent decision). Of those that are left (the real poor), most are eligable for Medicaid.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
However, the mother of date child who died is probably guilty of both abuse and neglect. A life is always worth more than a few dollars, even if the mother had to go without an evening meal from time to time to pay for such treatment.
I'd like to know how big her rims are and how much they cost.
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
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Falling numbers of state dentists in England has led to some people taking extreme
measures, including extracting their own teeth, according to a new study released
Monday.State dentists? Extracting their own teeth? This is so easy that I don't even know where to go with this.
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
Oh come on Red, even you can do better than that. What the heck is a state dentist? I think they mean dentists subsidised by the National Health Service to perform diagnosis/treatments, which would make sense because rather than get paid £30 per filling by the NHS, dentists can charge £35 per filling if they offer private treatment. 99% of the NHS paitents from ten years ago now have the same service from the same dentist. The 10% who can't afford it are with the remaining dentists who still take on NHS work. It's like eye care - you are entitled to free tests and subsidised glasses when you can't afford them, but if you want to pay extra to get the latest Gucci frames no one is telling you that you can't. All the practitioners (outside of hospitals) are private. Every single one. Dentistry is one of the hardest medical specialities to get into due to the extensive and very expensive training, which is reflected in their shortage. There have never been enough to go around; this is nothing new. As to people pulling their own teeth out, it was a common playground practise when I was a kid to loop cotton around your wobbly teeth and have someone pull it out while for you. Nothing new there either. If I had a wobbly tooth now I would not pay a dentist to remove it - nature will take it's course with a little bit of help from some cotton or a pair of pliers if needed. People are hardly performing root canals in their living rooms...
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I have no fillings, neither do I have a dentist, state or otherwise. FYI Your obsession with the worlds third most common element is becoming tiresome, to add to being childish and making you look like a prat.
Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.
Matthew Faithfull wrote:
FYI Your obsession with the worlds third most common element...
Plus the dumb cunt can't spell aluminium.
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digital man wrote:
I do know of many in the US who have no access to dental care at all so pot, kettle and black to you.
Really? There's a dentist around every corner. Do these people you "know" of live in the moutains?
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
Red Stateler wrote:
Really? There's a dentist around every corner. Do these people you "know" of live in the moutains?
So how many of the unemployed, single mothers, ghetto dwellers, minimum wage earners or kids of any of these groups can afford to get themselves to a dentist?
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Well that's an intersting bit of propaganda. That would fall under "neglect". An abscess is, based on my understanding, extremely painful. Also, dentists are relatively inexpensive (a cleaning might run a bit above $100) and typically offer payment plans. It might have cost several hundred dollars for those neglectful parents to have a tooth pulled. And if health care wasn't available to them, how did he get immediate emergency surgery? What I find absolutely lame about these Michael Moorian approaches to these sorts of debates (and it's odd that your "mainstream" media would take this approach) is that they magnify carnival-like freak incidents (even saying "This story is not a one-off"), leave out the details (namely that she could have taken her kid to the dentist using medicaid if she weren't so neglectful) and portray them as the norm. Note that the story says "For the poorest there is some free treatment, called Medicaid. But not all dentists or doctors accept Medicaid patients, and Alyce Driver could not afford to pay to have Deamonte's tooth extracted". OK, so not all dentists take medicare? So she would have had to drive another 2 miles to find one that did? Frankly this sort of propaganda in its purest form is nothing short of repulsive. This is simply a case of a mother neglecting her child, but the BBC runs it as though its the state of America. As you folks say: bollocks.
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
Red Stateler wrote:
"...Deamonte's tooth extracted"
...this was just time saving, with a gay made up name like that he would have been beaten to death before the end of High School anyway.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Matthew Faithfull wrote:
FYI Your obsession with the worlds third most common element...
Plus the dumb cunt can't spell aluminium.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Falling numbers of state dentists in England has led to some people taking extreme
measures, including extracting their own teeth, according to a new study released
Monday.State dentists? Extracting their own teeth? This is so easy that I don't even know where to go with this.
Anybody rape your wife yet? -IAmChrisMcCall
This is the natural consequence of the theology of "personal responsibility", I thought you'd be pleased!
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