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  • S Sathesh Sakthivel

    Single as you mentioned as Single and nowadays Microsoft is introducing New Technologies I would prefer with the Asp.Net itself. And to be a better software programmer in this market we have to come through all the new advancement in this field. But as of today Asp.Net is in good position for Developing the web applications and please stick on to it.

    SSK. Anyone who says sunshine brings happiness has never danced in the rain.

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    Eytukan
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    Vri SSK wrote:

    Anyone who says sunshine brings happiness has never danced in the rain.

    Also shows that the poor bloke as never visited India.:doh:


    Jemmy : Deadline? Pfft, a real programmer eats deadlines for breakfast. :P Mark: I thought real programmers ignored deadlines :sigh: Best wishes to Rexx[^]

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      This isn't a programming questions. I am in a CONFUSION . Currently I am working in a vary small company as a VC++(System Programmer). The Company has vary few ( only 3, including me ) employee as VC++ programmer. And they are just giving pittance(very few salary) for that as they dont't have much work.(Overall I am not getting salary nor good Experience) I am here For (in this company as well as in this line, VC++ programmer ) four months. Now I am getting chance to work in Other good (MNC) Company on ASP. Net, But the Problem is that it's on contract basis ( i.e. after 1 year my service will be terminated ). But the Salary is Good as compare to this company. Now I dont't know what to do ??? should I stay in this company ??? or should change the field ?? You suggestions are expected.

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      DickyJones
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      Don't sit there feeling fustrated. Move. Remember ASP.Net is not a language, it's a web application platform. Moving to work in ASP.Net will only expand your horizons. You don't actually have to leave C++ behind entirely (though I would recommend moving to C#, which should be a fairly easy transition for a C++ systems programmer!) ASP.Net as a platform has been growing steadily over the last few years and is going to be around for a good while yet! As far as short term contracts go, a year is a long time. Get your head down, work hard, and learn as much as you can. You'll be amazed at what opportunities open up for you with C++ systems and ASP.Net experience on your CV. Go do it and best wishes to you!:)

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        Vri SSK wrote:

        Anyone who says sunshine brings happiness has never danced in the rain.

        Also shows that the poor bloke as never visited India.:doh:


        Jemmy : Deadline? Pfft, a real programmer eats deadlines for breakfast. :P Mark: I thought real programmers ignored deadlines :sigh: Best wishes to Rexx[^]

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        VuNic wrote:

        Also shows that the poor bloke as never visited India.

        first two year for vc++ programmer is very difficult.. Vunic knows that very well..

        "Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
        Never mind - my own stupidity is the source of every "problem" - Mixture

        cheers, Alok Gupta VC Forum Q&A :- I/IV Support CRY- Child Relief and You

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        • G GauranG Shah

          This isn't a programming questions. I am in a CONFUSION . Currently I am working in a vary small company as a VC++(System Programmer). The Company has vary few ( only 3, including me ) employee as VC++ programmer. And they are just giving pittance(very few salary) for that as they dont't have much work.(Overall I am not getting salary nor good Experience) I am here For (in this company as well as in this line, VC++ programmer ) four months. Now I am getting chance to work in Other good (MNC) Company on ASP. Net, But the Problem is that it's on contract basis ( i.e. after 1 year my service will be terminated ). But the Salary is Good as compare to this company. Now I dont't know what to do ??? should I stay in this company ??? or should change the field ?? You suggestions are expected.

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          Depends on which sector of the market you want to progress in I guess, both C++ and ASP.NET have a relatively strong share of the market for experienced users - and can be well payed. - If you want to get into the OS\real time development side of things stay with C++ - If you want to get into the web side of things, online apps and SQL databases go with the ASP.NET (and learn C#, it is way better thean VB.NET) I personally would go for the ASP.NET job as learning multiple disciplines is always beneficial for a good developer.

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          • G GauranG Shah

            This isn't a programming questions. I am in a CONFUSION . Currently I am working in a vary small company as a VC++(System Programmer). The Company has vary few ( only 3, including me ) employee as VC++ programmer. And they are just giving pittance(very few salary) for that as they dont't have much work.(Overall I am not getting salary nor good Experience) I am here For (in this company as well as in this line, VC++ programmer ) four months. Now I am getting chance to work in Other good (MNC) Company on ASP. Net, But the Problem is that it's on contract basis ( i.e. after 1 year my service will be terminated ). But the Salary is Good as compare to this company. Now I dont't know what to do ??? should I stay in this company ??? or should change the field ?? You suggestions are expected.

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            GauranG33 wrote:

            I am working in a vary small company as a VC++(System Programmer). The Company has vary few ( only 3, including me ) employee as VC++ programmer.

            Same condition as of mine, when I started my career.

            GauranG33 wrote:

            Now I am getting chance to work in Other good (MNC) Company on ASP. Net, But the Problem is that it's on contract basis

            Is this company is in your town/state i.e. Gujarat. Or situated at any IT hub (Metros + Pune, Banglore or Hyderabad). I want to work in vc++, so I faced all hardship and stay put to it, initial years for vc++ is difficult as he/she gaining experience in that but it your own call, if MNC is big, that will whole lot of learning there as you not only learn language, but you will learn processes too.

            "Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
            Never mind - my own stupidity is the source of every "problem" - Mixture

            cheers, Alok Gupta VC Forum Q&A :- I/IV Support CRY- Child Relief and You

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            • G GauranG Shah

              I am single.( But planning to get married in 1 year. )But I dont't know much about the Market. ( i.e. wich technology is good to survive in the Market) becuase after each and every few years a new technology comes in a market and try to shift the other old technology.This occures most frequent in the WEB Devlopment and vary less in System Programming.(thats what I think ) I just want to know how is the future of ASP.net as compare to VC++

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              try to find vc++ job at Microsoft, lol :) seriously, they are constantly searching for good cpp programmers all over the world, so why not try? i'd go for that asp.net job too. seems that you can find much more jobs now for it than cpp

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                VuNic wrote:

                Also shows that the poor bloke as never visited India.

                first two year for vc++ programmer is very difficult.. Vunic knows that very well..

                "Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
                Never mind - my own stupidity is the source of every "problem" - Mixture

                cheers, Alok Gupta VC Forum Q&A :- I/IV Support CRY- Child Relief and You

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                Eytukan
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                lol :) Yep and I also know how much someone would need Alok&Tox :-D


                Jemmy : Deadline? Pfft, a real programmer eats deadlines for breakfast. :P Mark: I thought real programmers ignored deadlines :sigh: Best wishes to Rexx[^]

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                • G GauranG Shah

                  This isn't a programming questions. I am in a CONFUSION . Currently I am working in a vary small company as a VC++(System Programmer). The Company has vary few ( only 3, including me ) employee as VC++ programmer. And they are just giving pittance(very few salary) for that as they dont't have much work.(Overall I am not getting salary nor good Experience) I am here For (in this company as well as in this line, VC++ programmer ) four months. Now I am getting chance to work in Other good (MNC) Company on ASP. Net, But the Problem is that it's on contract basis ( i.e. after 1 year my service will be terminated ). But the Salary is Good as compare to this company. Now I dont't know what to do ??? should I stay in this company ??? or should change the field ?? You suggestions are expected.

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                  The_Great_Gonzo
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                  I would suggest you go for the ASP.Net role. Gain the experience and move on at the end of the year. Some of these contracts end up turning into full time jobs anyway. I would however, keep up your VC++ so that if you are looking for a new job/contract in a years time you have a good mix of skills. Good luck!

                  Oh, uh, good question. Now technically speaking, uhh, let's say, put me down as a... 'Whatever'?

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                  • T ThatsAlok

                    GauranG33 wrote:

                    I am working in a vary small company as a VC++(System Programmer). The Company has vary few ( only 3, including me ) employee as VC++ programmer.

                    Same condition as of mine, when I started my career.

                    GauranG33 wrote:

                    Now I am getting chance to work in Other good (MNC) Company on ASP. Net, But the Problem is that it's on contract basis

                    Is this company is in your town/state i.e. Gujarat. Or situated at any IT hub (Metros + Pune, Banglore or Hyderabad). I want to work in vc++, so I faced all hardship and stay put to it, initial years for vc++ is difficult as he/she gaining experience in that but it your own call, if MNC is big, that will whole lot of learning there as you not only learn language, but you will learn processes too.

                    "Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
                    Never mind - my own stupidity is the source of every "problem" - Mixture

                    cheers, Alok Gupta VC Forum Q&A :- I/IV Support CRY- Child Relief and You

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                    Its good MNC and in the same town I am living. But the thing is that the job is contract basis ( 1 year only).

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                    • T ThatsAlok

                      GauranG33 wrote:

                      I am working in a vary small company as a VC++(System Programmer). The Company has vary few ( only 3, including me ) employee as VC++ programmer.

                      Same condition as of mine, when I started my career.

                      GauranG33 wrote:

                      Now I am getting chance to work in Other good (MNC) Company on ASP. Net, But the Problem is that it's on contract basis

                      Is this company is in your town/state i.e. Gujarat. Or situated at any IT hub (Metros + Pune, Banglore or Hyderabad). I want to work in vc++, so I faced all hardship and stay put to it, initial years for vc++ is difficult as he/she gaining experience in that but it your own call, if MNC is big, that will whole lot of learning there as you not only learn language, but you will learn processes too.

                      "Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
                      Never mind - my own stupidity is the source of every "problem" - Mixture

                      cheers, Alok Gupta VC Forum Q&A :- I/IV Support CRY- Child Relief and You

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                      ThatsAlok wrote:

                      GauranG33 wrote: I am working in a vary small company as a VC++(System Programmer). The Company has vary few ( only 3, including me ) employee as VC++ programmer. Same condition as of mine, when I started my career.

                      Similar condition was mine, but I was the only one. :)


                      Jemmy : Deadline? Pfft, a real programmer eats deadlines for breakfast. :P Mark: I thought real programmers ignored deadlines :sigh: Best wishes to Rexx[^]

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                        Its good MNC and in the same town I am living. But the thing is that the job is contract basis ( 1 year only).

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                        GauranG33 wrote:

                        Its good MNC and in the same town I am living. But the thing is that the job is contract basis ( 1 year only).

                        chances of getting permanent there? could i have name of company....

                        "Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
                        Never mind - my own stupidity is the source of every "problem" - Mixture

                        cheers, Alok Gupta VC Forum Q&A :- I/IV Support CRY- Child Relief and You

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                        • G GauranG Shah

                          This isn't a programming questions. I am in a CONFUSION . Currently I am working in a vary small company as a VC++(System Programmer). The Company has vary few ( only 3, including me ) employee as VC++ programmer. And they are just giving pittance(very few salary) for that as they dont't have much work.(Overall I am not getting salary nor good Experience) I am here For (in this company as well as in this line, VC++ programmer ) four months. Now I am getting chance to work in Other good (MNC) Company on ASP. Net, But the Problem is that it's on contract basis ( i.e. after 1 year my service will be terminated ). But the Salary is Good as compare to this company. Now I dont't know what to do ??? should I stay in this company ??? or should change the field ?? You suggestions are expected.

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                          What is ur overall experience in IT? If u r a beginner in VC++ and frustrated with it, just change ur path to ASP.Net. If u r an experience VC++ programmer, try to get similar job. Now a days its very difficult to find a well versed C++ programmer. you can easily get a good job in VC++ itself. Think twise and act accordingly. Sirajudeen (VC++ programmer)

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                            What is ur overall experience in IT? If u r a beginner in VC++ and frustrated with it, just change ur path to ASP.Net. If u r an experience VC++ programmer, try to get similar job. Now a days its very difficult to find a well versed C++ programmer. you can easily get a good job in VC++ itself. Think twise and act accordingly. Sirajudeen (VC++ programmer)

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                            GauranG Shah
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                            Yes I am beginner Programmer. But I haven't frustrated with VC++ programming. Only the problem is that my company does't have much work. and so they are also not giving good salary.

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                              GauranG33 wrote:

                              Its good MNC and in the same town I am living. But the thing is that the job is contract basis ( 1 year only).

                              chances of getting permanent there? could i have name of company....

                              "Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
                              Never mind - my own stupidity is the source of every "problem" - Mixture

                              cheers, Alok Gupta VC Forum Q&A :- I/IV Support CRY- Child Relief and You

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                              TCS ( TATA Consultance services )

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                              • G GauranG Shah

                                Yes I am beginner Programmer. But I haven't frustrated with VC++ programming. Only the problem is that my company does't have much work. and so they are also not giving good salary.

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                                In your case, my suggession is to go with ASP.Net. Because it is newer technology compared to VC++ and from there you can easily learn C#.Net. Changing the platform is quite common among software developers. So if you are interested to learn newer technology/platform, you can swith to ASP.Net. But, since you are switching within a short period of serivice from your current company, be ready to justify yourself in the interviews. (Salary hike is not an advisable reply). If possible, you can ignore ur current company from ur CV.

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                                  TCS ( TATA Consultance services )

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                                  GauranG33 wrote:

                                  TCS ( TATA Consultance services )

                                  good you must go there.. any big compnay could hire you after that.. might be they like you work.. they may hire you, all depends hows your manager treat you!

                                  "Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
                                  Never mind - my own stupidity is the source of every "problem" - Mixture

                                  cheers, Alok Gupta VC Forum Q&A :- I/IV Support CRY- Child Relief and You

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                                  • R reshi999

                                    Depends on which sector of the market you want to progress in I guess, both C++ and ASP.NET have a relatively strong share of the market for experienced users - and can be well payed. - If you want to get into the OS\real time development side of things stay with C++ - If you want to get into the web side of things, online apps and SQL databases go with the ASP.NET (and learn C#, it is way better thean VB.NET) I personally would go for the ASP.NET job as learning multiple disciplines is always beneficial for a good developer.

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                                    reshi999 wrote:

                                    - If you want to get into the web side of things, online apps and SQL databases go with the ASP.NET (and learn C#, it is way better thean VB.NET)

                                    Really? How, exactly, is C# way better than VB.Net? I use both and can't see that one is particularly "better" except that the IDE features of VB.Net are far and away better than C#. (I.E. incremental compiler, lack of BRACES, etc). With that incremental compiler I don't have to recompile everything just to find out I misnamed a variable - among other things. Please enlighten me. ;) Incidentally, you have quite a job to do to "prove" it's "better" as they both produce CIL, both access the same framework and both are first-class OO languages. Let's hear it! Maybe you should rephrase. You LIKE C# better than VB.Net, perhaps? -CB :)

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                                      reshi999 wrote:

                                      - If you want to get into the web side of things, online apps and SQL databases go with the ASP.NET (and learn C#, it is way better thean VB.NET)

                                      Really? How, exactly, is C# way better than VB.Net? I use both and can't see that one is particularly "better" except that the IDE features of VB.Net are far and away better than C#. (I.E. incremental compiler, lack of BRACES, etc). With that incremental compiler I don't have to recompile everything just to find out I misnamed a variable - among other things. Please enlighten me. ;) Incidentally, you have quite a job to do to "prove" it's "better" as they both produce CIL, both access the same framework and both are first-class OO languages. Let's hear it! Maybe you should rephrase. You LIKE C# better than VB.Net, perhaps? -CB :)

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                                      I think the fact I like c# is implied by the fact I state it is 'way better', so please continue to infer whatever you like from my statements. I have coded extensively in both but find the c# syntax clearer to read, and achieves much the same functionality in less code, plus the fact I can optimise some code by using pointer arithmetic (unsafe but fast) which I believe VB.NET does not offer (I could be wrong?). Anyway it all is subjective, personally I prefer to code in java, SQL, Visual foxpro, pascal, modula2, python, etc - But of course I avoid VB6 like the plague.

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                                        I think the fact I like c# is implied by the fact I state it is 'way better', so please continue to infer whatever you like from my statements. I have coded extensively in both but find the c# syntax clearer to read, and achieves much the same functionality in less code, plus the fact I can optimise some code by using pointer arithmetic (unsafe but fast) which I believe VB.NET does not offer (I could be wrong?). Anyway it all is subjective, personally I prefer to code in java, SQL, Visual foxpro, pascal, modula2, python, etc - But of course I avoid VB6 like the plague.

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                                        That's cool ... just wondered why you thought it was 'way better'. You confirmed my original thought - you LIKE it way better. Works for me. No offense intended guy. :) Pointer arithmetic is something I used to do a lot of back in the C/C++ days (I did that for about 15 years) - but haven't lately found a need for it. By the time I was ready for Windows development (Jeez ... about 10 years ago now!) it was VB3 that originally got me there. After writing systems-level code for 15 to 20 years with ASM, C/C++ I was ready to not re-invent the user-interface wheel any more. Same reason I don't do web development - you can have it. (And it ain't that I didn't try to get interested in web development for about 7 years!) My focus is business intelligence logic and desktop GUI. VB6 - for desktop development still rocks, IMHO. There simply isn't a tool better suited for putting an application for the desktop together quickly and concisely. However ... I like 'em both - for different reasons. Later! -CB :)

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                                        • G GauranG Shah

                                          This isn't a programming questions. I am in a CONFUSION . Currently I am working in a vary small company as a VC++(System Programmer). The Company has vary few ( only 3, including me ) employee as VC++ programmer. And they are just giving pittance(very few salary) for that as they dont't have much work.(Overall I am not getting salary nor good Experience) I am here For (in this company as well as in this line, VC++ programmer ) four months. Now I am getting chance to work in Other good (MNC) Company on ASP. Net, But the Problem is that it's on contract basis ( i.e. after 1 year my service will be terminated ). But the Salary is Good as compare to this company. Now I dont't know what to do ??? should I stay in this company ??? or should change the field ?? You suggestions are expected.

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                                          .NET is the wave of the future. You should take the opportunity to learn it, and you'll be getting paid to do this. In the late 80s, the hot new language was C. It felt like C would be around forever. Then C++ appeared and 15-20 years later it became almost impossible to find a pure C job. We can expect a similar evolution with .NET. C++ will still have a future for two reasons: Pure C++ is faster than any .NET language, so will be useful for speeding up critical parts of an application for the foreseeable future. Also there's C++ .NET (AKA managed C++), which appears to combine some of the speed of C++ with the power of the .NET framework. It's better to have more skills than fewer skills, and despite its relative slowness, the .NET platform is more powerful and streamlined, with a huge class library. It provides read-to-use components that would have taken weeks to write by yourself in the past.

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