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  • P Paul Conrad

    Ray Cassick wrote:

    Talk with your pocket book.

    His pocket book probably told him no.

    "Find it your bloody self - immediately!" - Dave Kreskowiak

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    Lost User
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    It is not stealing software if there is no possiblity of buying anyway.

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    • L Lost User

      It is not stealing software if there is no possiblity of buying anyway.

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      Paul Conrad
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      Not true. If I took a $600K Ferrari with any possibility of buying, it would be considered Grand Theft Auto - a felony here in California, so stealing is stealing whether you cannot afford it or not.

      "Find it your bloody self - immediately!" - Dave Kreskowiak

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      • P Paul Conrad

        Not true. If I took a $600K Ferrari with any possibility of buying, it would be considered Grand Theft Auto - a felony here in California, so stealing is stealing whether you cannot afford it or not.

        "Find it your bloody self - immediately!" - Dave Kreskowiak

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        Ri Qen Sin
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        There is a difference between physical items and digital items. Digital items can be copied. Physical items can only be moved.

        ROFLOLMFAO

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          If you want to get any real work done, I recommend getting the XP version.

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          Ri Qen Sin
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          Windows Vista XP Edition is the best you can get.

          ROFLOLMFAO

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          • R Ri Qen Sin

            There is a difference between physical items and digital items. Digital items can be copied. Physical items can only be moved.

            ROFLOLMFAO

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            Iain Clarke Warrior Programmer
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            Making that argument on a forum largely populated by people who's livelihoods depend on creating digital items isn't likely to work. If you can't afford it - vote with your pocket. It's not likely anyone requires vista to carry on breathing. As has been said, I *want* a ferrari. As I can't afford it, I do without. I *want* office 2009.7435, but if I can't afford it, I'll do without [*]. Iain. [*] not actually true - I still use word 6 when I can - loads fast, and does everything I want it to, except load documents created more recently by other people.

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            • F Flynn Arrowstarr Regular Schmoe

              Pick up either Business (work stuff) or Home Premium (some work stuff + media pc). Only get Ultimate if you need every feature imaginable, or if you want Bit Locker. Otherwise, there's no point in getting Ultimate. As others have mentioned, getting the OEM or Upgrade licenses can save you money. Seriously, though, don't download illegal copies of it. You'll only cause yourself problems - such as getting blocked from security updates, or failing activation/validation and getting locked out of the OS. Flynn

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              Dan Neely
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              Flynn Arrowstarr wrote:

              Seriously, though, don't download illegal copies of it. You'll only cause yourself problems - such as getting blocked from security updates, or failing activation/validation and getting locked out of the OS.

              To which I'll add getting rootkits preinstalled. About a year ago someone posted a study about various warez copies of windows on the net. IIRC ~80% were preinfected with malware.

              -- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.

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              • R Ri Qen Sin

                There is a difference between physical items and digital items. Digital items can be copied. Physical items can only be moved.

                ROFLOLMFAO

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                Paul Conrad
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                Ri Qen-Sin wrote:

                There is a difference between physical items and digital items. Digital items can be copied. Physical items can only be moved.

                Still no difference. Taking something that isn't free without paying for it is still stealing, whether it is digital or physical.

                "Find it your bloody self - immediately!" - Dave Kreskowiak

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                • I Iain Clarke Warrior Programmer

                  Making that argument on a forum largely populated by people who's livelihoods depend on creating digital items isn't likely to work. If you can't afford it - vote with your pocket. It's not likely anyone requires vista to carry on breathing. As has been said, I *want* a ferrari. As I can't afford it, I do without. I *want* office 2009.7435, but if I can't afford it, I'll do without [*]. Iain. [*] not actually true - I still use word 6 when I can - loads fast, and does everything I want it to, except load documents created more recently by other people.

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                  Paul Conrad
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                  Iain Clarke wrote:

                  It's not likely anyone requires vista to carry on breathing.

                  Yep. I am still breathing and living happily with XP.

                  "Find it your bloody self - immediately!" - Dave Kreskowiak

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                  • R Ri Qen Sin

                    There is a difference between physical items and digital items. Digital items can be copied. Physical items can only be moved.

                    ROFLOLMFAO

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                    El Corazon
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                    Ri Qen-Sin wrote:

                    There is a difference between physical items and digital items. Digital items can be copied. Physical items can only be moved.

                    There is no difference, as others have pointed out. Digital items are valued at the cost of man-hours required to build it, as are physical items, though physical items have the additional material costs to go along with. Digital may seem to be more expensive, but it is not. by comparison digital technology move much faster than engineering/built items mostly because of the material cost difference. I wouldn't recommend asking people who's jobs go into those hours that value digital titles. We're not the ones to tell you how to steal our own work.

                    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                    • E El Corazon

                      Ri Qen-Sin wrote:

                      There is a difference between physical items and digital items. Digital items can be copied. Physical items can only be moved.

                      There is no difference, as others have pointed out. Digital items are valued at the cost of man-hours required to build it, as are physical items, though physical items have the additional material costs to go along with. Digital may seem to be more expensive, but it is not. by comparison digital technology move much faster than engineering/built items mostly because of the material cost difference. I wouldn't recommend asking people who's jobs go into those hours that value digital titles. We're not the ones to tell you how to steal our own work.

                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                      El Corazon wrote:

                      Digital may seem to be more expensive, but it is not. by comparison digital technology move much faster than engineering/built items mostly because of the material cost difference.

                      Great point. When you have thousands of licensed copies of software out there, it lowers the manufacturing cost, whereas a $600K Ferrari like the one the owner of the place my wife works at, there are not very many of those around ( at least on the order of magnitude as software ).

                      "Find it your bloody self - immediately!" - Dave Kreskowiak

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                      • P Paul Conrad

                        El Corazon wrote:

                        Digital may seem to be more expensive, but it is not. by comparison digital technology move much faster than engineering/built items mostly because of the material cost difference.

                        Great point. When you have thousands of licensed copies of software out there, it lowers the manufacturing cost, whereas a $600K Ferrari like the one the owner of the place my wife works at, there are not very many of those around ( at least on the order of magnitude as software ).

                        "Find it your bloody self - immediately!" - Dave Kreskowiak

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                        Paul Conrad wrote:

                        When you have thousands of licensed copies of software out there, it lowers the manufacturing cost, whereas a $600K Ferrari like the one the owner of the place my wife works at, there are not very many of those around ( at least on the order of magnitude as software ).

                        Are Ferrari's really any rarer than the similarly priced software like a database server licensed for a 64(?)way machine?

                        -- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.

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