Why is it called plug and play??
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I always wonder why they called it "plug and play". If you really want to be accurate it should be "plug, install drivers, then unplug and plug again, then reboot, then open device manager and fiddle around, then reboot again, reinstall drivers and finally play"
Yeah, but marketing couldn't remember that slogan, they always forgot the reboot. And you know what happens then... so "install drivers, then unplug and plug again, then reboot, then open device manager and fiddle around, then reboot again, reinstall drivers and finally play" became shortened to "play".
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It's all relative. Sure, it ain't nearly as easy as what it purports to be, especially the cheap stuff. But... it's been almost a decade since i last had to worry about IRQs, or choose between a working sound card and a CPU-intensive parallel port driver. So by comparison, it's almost fun... :rolleyes:
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You are not bullshitting me with your technobabble, old man. And learn to spell "ICQ"!
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Then feel free to go away forever.
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I always wonder why they called it "plug and play". If you really want to be accurate it should be "plug, install drivers, then unplug and plug again, then reboot, then open device manager and fiddle around, then reboot again, reinstall drivers and finally play"
From the plug and play hardware I use it seems pretty straight forward. Webcam Keyboard Mouse Speakers Just plug them in, install drivers and then it works, never had to reboot after installing drivers. And wasn't it originally called that for mice and keyboards because you didn't have to shut down then plug your mouse/keyboard into the serial port and then boot up, you could just attach it once the OS had loaded up? I may be completely wrong by the way.
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I always wonder why they called it "plug and play". If you really want to be accurate it should be "plug, install drivers, then unplug and plug again, then reboot, then open device manager and fiddle around, then reboot again, reinstall drivers and finally play"
Have you ever written a driver installation app? It's practically impossible to do it correctly, and you certainly can't do it based solely on the help in the Windows Driver Kit. Since I've had to write several, I've had a lot more sympathy. You get the feeling the programmers in the Microsoft Drivers group are all reavers[^].
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I thought it was called "Plug & Pray".:laugh:
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I always wonder why they called it "plug and play". If you really want to be accurate it should be "plug, install drivers, then unplug and plug again, then reboot, then open device manager and fiddle around, then reboot again, reinstall drivers and finally play"
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I always wonder why they called it "plug and play". If you really want to be accurate it should be "plug, install drivers, then unplug and plug again, then reboot, then open device manager and fiddle around, then reboot again, reinstall drivers and finally play"
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It's called Plug & Play because no one has to manually configure hex addresses and IRQs anymore. Of course in those days a device was a device and didn't need drivers to interact with a bloated OS.
Instead every application had to write all the data being sent to the device to magic number locations in memory in a format proprietary to the brand of the device. X|
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I always wonder why they called it "plug and play". If you really want to be accurate it should be "plug, install drivers, then unplug and plug again, then reboot, then open device manager and fiddle around, then reboot again, reinstall drivers and finally play"
Well, privately, it is called plug and pray. But they can't use the word pray in public because then ACLU would demand a separation of church and state. Then they were going to name it plug and prey in honor of the potential security violations possible when adding a new hardware device to the system. So they finally decided on plug and play. As in, plug it in, then go play with something else while you wait for driver patches from the manufacturer. Momony (as in I wish I had some mo money).
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I always wonder why they called it "plug and play". If you really want to be accurate it should be "plug, install drivers, then unplug and plug again, then reboot, then open device manager and fiddle around, then reboot again, reinstall drivers and finally play"
Well, let's see. Plug & Play came with Windows 95. Finally in Windows XP I can plug in my USB memory stick and use it without a hitch. Only 20,000 more devices to go I guess. Maybe by the time Windows 2025 comes out I'll be able to plug in my printer without any fuss. Matt Penner
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Then feel free to go away forever.
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norm .net wrote:
Plug and piss about for an hour
What the hell is that? Do you call that humor? I find it appalling.
Then go away and don't read "GLOBAL" forums. "Piss" is a very British way of saying "waste." In other words, we Americans might say "wasting the night away" where our brit friends would say "pissing the night away". Translated, his statement was effectively "Plug and wait around for an hour." And it was funny because he was able to use the alliteration of the P&P...
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Have you ever written a driver installation app? It's practically impossible to do it correctly, and you certainly can't do it based solely on the help in the Windows Driver Kit. Since I've had to write several, I've had a lot more sympathy. You get the feeling the programmers in the Microsoft Drivers group are all reavers[^].
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary Wheeler wrote:
It's practically impossible to do it correctly, and you certainly can't do it based solely on the help in the Windows Driver Kit.
That make sense. Probably why so few drivers are signed. Always figured the system was at fault, not the driver developers
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Well, let's see. Plug & Play came with Windows 95. Finally in Windows XP I can plug in my USB memory stick and use it without a hitch. Only 20,000 more devices to go I guess. Maybe by the time Windows 2025 comes out I'll be able to plug in my printer without any fuss. Matt Penner
hmmm, most of the usb and such stuff I used to plug into my machine (XP) used to find drivers that made them at least a little functional... I'm on vista and my one keyboard doesn't work :rolleyes:
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Gary Wheeler wrote:
It's practically impossible to do it correctly, and you certainly can't do it based solely on the help in the Windows Driver Kit.
That make sense. Probably why so few drivers are signed. Always figured the system was at fault, not the driver developers
The driver signing process is absurd. We looked at it. Every revision of a driver must be re-signed. Each iteration is expensive; we were quoted a figure in the thousands of $'s by Microsoft. The only benefit of having a signed driver is that it avoids one popup dialog during the installation process, and it puts your driver on the next round of Windows installation media. For a driver that will be distributed in the dozens, maybe even hundreds, we thought that was just a tad much.
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norm .net wrote:
Plug and piss about for an hour
What the hell is that? Do you call that humor? I find it appalling.
Oh my gawd! I took him literlly! My office mates didn't seem to appreciate the increased moisture content of the office. Go figure.
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The driver signing process is absurd. We looked at it. Every revision of a driver must be re-signed. Each iteration is expensive; we were quoted a figure in the thousands of $'s by Microsoft. The only benefit of having a signed driver is that it avoids one popup dialog during the installation process, and it puts your driver on the next round of Windows installation media. For a driver that will be distributed in the dozens, maybe even hundreds, we thought that was just a tad much.
Software Zen:
delete this;Yeah, I always thought that signing was a badly concieved idea - it discriminates against open software and small developers. On a side note, I found when installing bluetooth Windows XP would silently disable the drivers that I installed because they weren't signed.
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I always wonder why they called it "plug and play". If you really want to be accurate it should be "plug, install drivers, then unplug and plug again, then reboot, then open device manager and fiddle around, then reboot again, reinstall drivers and finally play"
Haha ! How about a compromise like : PLUG N PLAY AROUND FOR HOURS TO GET IT WORKING ...? This isn't my idea -- I heard it before somewhere. To be honest, I've been very successful with all my devices and drivers for several years, since I got a mobo with integrated stuff, and XP. Ironic that I've never needed System Restore since moving from Win98 when I desperately needed it. The only bluescreen I get these days is when I eject a CD using the hardware's button itself rather than selecting File/Eject from iTunes. smug smug smuggity smug-smug
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